| Wizzup | freemangordon: where is abook db | 12:46 |
|---|---|---|
| Wizzup | on fremantle it is .osso-abook/db | 12:46 |
| freemangordon | Wizzup: it should be there on leste as well | 14:29 |
| Wizzup | it is not | 14:30 |
| Wizzup | where is | 14:30 |
| Wizzup | err | 14:30 |
| freemangordon | sec | 14:30 |
| Wizzup | do you have it? | 14:30 |
| freemangordon | yes | 14:30 |
| freemangordon | oh, it is evolution db | 14:30 |
| Wizzup | where can I find them/it | 14:31 |
| freemangordon | sec | 14:31 |
| freemangordon | /home/user/.local/share/evolution/addressbook/system | 14:32 |
| freemangordon | uvos: I think it is more that hildon doing compositing | 14:33 |
| freemangordon | I installed and ran icewm and it makes no diff in gtkperf | 14:33 |
| freemangordon | so maybe I am doing something stupid in the driver | 14:33 |
| freemangordon | xorg driver that is | 14:34 |
| Wizzup | is it fast on fremantle? | 14:35 |
| freemangordon | which one? | 14:35 |
| Wizzup | gtk scrolling performance | 14:36 |
| freemangordon | yes | 14:36 |
| freemangordon | way better | 14:36 |
| freemangordon | compare scrolling in control panel | 14:37 |
| freemangordon | n900/fremantle is faster than d4/;este | 14:37 |
| freemangordon | *leste | 14:37 |
| buZz | hehe, i already find the d4 fast in gui stuff, wonder how fast it -could- be | 14:51 |
| buZz | i mean, for the age of the hw | 14:52 |
| buZz | is there any reason to not use debhelper for a -extras package? | 14:53 |
| buZz | ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ | 14:58 |
| Wizzup | nope, dh is fine | 15:04 |
| freemangordon | buZz: scrolling in addresbook, for example tops @ 40fps | 15:12 |
| freemangordon | that should be at least 60-70 | 15:12 |
| buZz | hmm ok | 15:18 |
| buZz | i think i found a bug in devilutionX that prevents gameplay :( seems it has some code for placing virtual touchscreen buttons, yet the actionbuttons parts of that arent rendered or functional :( boo | 15:19 |
| buZz | *opens issue* | 15:19 |
| buZz | welp, https://github.com/diasurgical/devilutionX/issues/5403 , lets see | 15:24 |
| Wizzup | ok, I have contact syncing working now | 15:31 |
| buZz | omg! to what? :D | 15:31 |
| Wizzup | leste <-> radicale <-> fremantle | 15:31 |
| Wizzup | or thunderbird | 15:31 |
| Wizzup | etc | 15:31 |
| buZz | radicale? | 15:31 |
| buZz | ah, caldav & carddav, fancy | 15:31 |
| Wizzup | yeah I'm sure nextcloud will work too | 15:31 |
| buZz | does calendar sync aswell? | 15:31 |
| buZz | thats the main one for me to sync :P | 15:32 |
| Wizzup | yes that has been working for a long time | 15:32 |
| buZz | through radicale? | 15:32 |
| Wizzup | yup | 15:32 |
| Wizzup | well you use syncevolution on the maemo devices | 15:32 |
| buZz | nice! i was messing with 'horde' to sync to , but had a hard time getting it functional enough | 15:32 |
| buZz | but, with SyncML , not caldav | 15:33 |
| Wizzup | yup, just synced my contacts to a new leste img/device | 15:34 |
| Wizzup | easy | 15:34 |
| Wizzup | will document momentarily | 15:34 |
| buZz | sweet :) | 15:34 |
| buZz | could you also include the caldav stuff in that documentation? | 15:34 |
| Wizzup | so the calendar stuff s here https://leste.maemo.org/Calendar | 15:36 |
| Wizzup | has been for a while | 15:36 |
| Wizzup | maybe we should make clear instructions for nextcloud | 15:36 |
| Wizzup | the contacts one I will add to a new wiki page | 15:36 |
| Wizzup | once I help my gf solve this puzzle in this game ;) | 15:36 |
| buZz | hmm :) | 15:37 |
| buZz | oh hm, that qalendar bug is still there i guess? | 15:37 |
| buZz | yeah :( (6 week numbers displayed, but only 5 weeks visible) | 15:38 |
| buZz | (in the month view) | 15:38 |
| buZz | where the hell did i put that issue :( | 15:39 |
| buZz | lol | 15:39 |
| buZz | meh -did- i even open one :( | 15:41 |
| Wizzup | buZz: so if you have carddav set up: https://leste.maemo.org/Contacts | 15:46 |
| buZz | i'll go plonk radicale on some VPS :P | 15:47 |
| Wizzup | maybe I should make a Sync page on our wiki and move the contacts and calendar stuff there? | 15:47 |
| Wizzup | buZz: if you have nextcloud you can use that too | 15:47 |
| Wizzup | I'm poking meridion atm to see if he wants to help try it | 15:47 |
| buZz | Wizzup: yes, something like that was my idea, something for 'sync everything to elsewhere' and collect at least links to the other docs | 15:48 |
| buZz | or combine em all | 15:48 |
| Wizzup | freemangordon: imho the scrolling also usually 'lasts too long' if that makes sense | 15:48 |
| Wizzup | buZz: well, we want to discuss calendar and contacts ui features without the sync | 15:48 |
| Wizzup | but yes that is what I meant, I can make a sync page | 15:48 |
| freemangordon | Wizzup: lasting too long should be something we can easily fix | 15:49 |
| freemangordon | the issue is that it is choppy | 15:49 |
| freemangordon | *the real issue | 15:49 |
| buZz | Wizzup: i think setting up nextcloud from zero is more effort than radicale , i dont really want/need a web gui, just 'place to sync to' where i can hopefully share calendar or contacts with other people | 15:50 |
| buZz | but just 'cp' would be fine for sharing too ;) | 15:51 |
| Wizzup | buZz: yes, but others use nextcloud | 15:56 |
| buZz | right, i guess? | 15:56 |
| buZz | the main motivation for syncing is 'share calendar with some android user without thirdparty' | 15:56 |
| Wizzup | hmmm | 15:57 |
| Wizzup | can you explain your motivation some more | 15:57 |
| buZz | GF wants to know my agenda , atm i need to tell her :P | 15:57 |
| buZz | but i'd like to use qalendar more for it, so i can auto-sync it to her | 15:58 |
| Wizzup | ok, so she will use your radicale then | 16:00 |
| buZz | yeah if that can work :) | 16:00 |
| buZz | ah, devilutionX dev awake \o | 16:01 |
| buZz | weird, lol, if i change resolution to 640x480 , there's nothing rendered (still rendered though, i can see a single frame when i close it) | 16:04 |
| buZz | ah, nevermind, seems the 'upscale' parameter was preventing rendering? weird | 16:10 |
| Wizzup | syncevolution complains about the https chain in my nextcloud, which is surely fine | 16:47 |
| Wizzup | meh. | 16:48 |
| buZz | meh, whats the complaint about it? | 16:51 |
| buZz | about that 'upscale' parameter > a devilutionX dev says 'Maybe your system doesn't support software blitting?' | 16:52 |
| buZz | i'm not sure what that means but could be some missing feature in xorg driver? | 16:52 |
| Wizzup | buZz: let me know if you need help with syncing | 16:58 |
| Wizzup | I'm working on the wiki page now | 16:58 |
| buZz | lol > DEBUG: Couldn't find matching EGL config (call to eglChooseConfig failed, reporting an error of EGL_SUCCESS) | 17:00 |
| buZz | Wizzup: i'll switch topics in a bit, hoping this devilutionX issue might be small enough to fix soon :P | 17:00 |
| buZz | lol > button.png is 87x2262 so the image is probably too tall. | 17:18 |
| buZz | pfff, these ppl think i want to maintain a devilutionX fork just for a single resized image :P they gotta be tripping | 17:37 |
| buZz | does anyone have a N900 with latest leste available that could compile and run devilutionX on it with --verbose 2> verbose.log ? :P | 17:57 |
| buZz | for the leste -extras package, i'll have to add 'something' to get lower res image, but maybe the N900 needs even lower? | 17:58 |
| buZz | https://space.nurdspace.nl/~buzz/devilutionXverbose.log <--- this line : DEBUG: Texture dimensions are limited to 2048x2048 | 17:58 |
| buZz | or maybe someone already knows max texture dimensions for GLES2 on n900? | 17:59 |
| freemangordon | buZz: max texture dimensions are reported by GL itself, if asked | 18:00 |
| buZz | yeah i know, but i have no N900 here with anywhere near current anything on it :P | 18:00 |
| buZz | this game tries to load a 87x2262 texture and silently fails , leading to difficult gameplay, as some texture is missing | 18:01 |
| buZz | just contemplating 'best' route to get around this | 18:01 |
| buZz | and would be sad to have to redo it for a different Leste device later | 18:01 |
| sicelo | freemangordon: btw this is correct for console on N900? CONFIG_CMDLINE="rootwait root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 console=ttyS0" , or should be some other tty? | 18:04 |
| buZz | looks good/better now ; https://i.imgur.com/Z3Jd9Mf.png | 18:08 |
| freemangordon | sicelo: not sure, what is the issue? | 18:26 |
| sicelo | just trying to get console working on n900, for the bisection i've been doing | 18:29 |
| sicelo | i use the latest u-boot from maedevu.maemo.org to start the device, and after u-boot shows "Loading Kernel Image , Starting kernel ...", nothing ever shows up in console | 18:31 |
| sicelo | console output is working while Nolo/X-Loader is running, so i'm guessing i have wrong config in kernel, dunno | 18:33 |
| buZz | sicelo: https://leste.maemo.org/Nokia_N900 <-- says ttyS2 | 18:35 |
| buZz | but no clue | 18:35 |
| buZz | oh deeper link ; https://leste.maemo.org/Nokia_N900#Serial | 18:35 |
| sicelo | oh, thanks :-) | 18:37 |
| buZz | sicelo: is your n900 on leste and up to date etc? could you try devilutionX --verbose for me to see max texture size it reports? | 18:41 |
| buZz | so i dont have to fix it later when ppl want to diablo1 on n900 | 18:42 |
| sicelo | unfortunately no. it currently has old postmarketOS | 18:42 |
| buZz | alright, guess i should dig up a n900 here ^_^ | 18:43 |
| sicelo | i use pmOS or debian when testing newer kernels on n900, because ML is not easy to use without accel. d4 is always running latest ML however, since i don't use it for anything else | 18:52 |
| buZz | alright, found my 3x n900 :P lets see which one works | 19:08 |
| sicelo | no luck, mmm. i must have some other problem with my config then | 19:14 |
| buZz | ah ,ofcourse, the one with the damaged screen, haha, welp, does seem i had leste on it before, but its unable to read SD now .. maybe just loose | 19:17 |
| sicelo | here's my kernel config, http://li.nux.co.za/n900_defconfig | 19:18 |
| buZz | hmmf, not even pencil eraser on SD slot and card gets it working :P reinstall time | 19:21 |
| buZz | oh wait, boot should be with keyboard open | 19:22 |
| buZz | doesnt help :) | 19:23 |
| freemangordon | hmmm https://github.com/community-ssu/gtk/commit/b5068ea1ac30f12a40e6780f441260aabf77c321 | 19:41 |
| buZz | nice find freemangordon :) | 20:10 |
| freemangordon | maybe there are mor | 20:12 |
| freemangordon | e | 20:12 |
| freemangordon | buZz: BTW, maybe I am blind, but I dont; NEON-optimized functions to increase src/dst | 20:13 |
| freemangordon | *I don;t see | 20:13 |
| freemangordon | obviously the code is correct, maybe I don't remember arm asm enough | 20:15 |
| buZz | arent src/sdt allocated before these calls? | 20:15 |
| buZz | just a guess | 20:15 |
| freemangordon | sure, but those functions are just called in the middle of the function | 20:17 |
| buZz | if its a heavy part of the function, it can matter a lot | 20:17 |
| freemangordon | anyway, I'll try to find some time to port those patches tomorrow and see if it makes any difference | 20:18 |
| sicelo | freemangordon: i don't suppose this is still under your radar, but you had asked for the output for the usb problem i'm chasing. here, https://paste.debian.net/1256482/ | 20:39 |
| sicelo | [ 13.996612] isp1704_charger isp1707: failed to register isp1704 with error -22 | 20:40 |
| sicelo | [ 13.996643] isp1704_charger: probe of isp1707 failed with error -22 | 20:40 |
| sicelo | that's what i want to fix. however, the real cause appears to be [ 1.389648] musb-hdrc musb-hdrc.0.auto: error -ENXIO: IRQ mc not found | 20:40 |
| sicelo | in other kernels, there's an actual musb crash, with a trace | 20:41 |
| buZz | might be missing 'mc' label in dtb or something? | 20:42 |
| sicelo | it's there iirc. dts has had no changes at all | 20:43 |
| buZz | not really sure what i'm doing wrong :( | 20:55 |
| buZz | https://paste.debian.net/plain/1256486 | 20:55 |
| buZz | just 'run sdboot' in the uboot console works, though | 20:56 |
| sicelo | yes that works | 20:57 |
| sicelo | what's the `-f sudo ... ` stuff? | 20:57 |
| buZz | somehow came on one line, -f should be the end (flash newer uboot) | 20:57 |
| buZz | https://leste.maemo.org/Nokia_N900#Quick <- under 'be careful though' | 20:57 |
| sicelo | ok | 20:58 |
| sicelo | btw, no need to be sudo to use 0xFFFF (at least on my laptop i'm not sudo when i use it | 20:58 |
| buZz | alright, still not sure then | 20:58 |
| buZz | it should automagically start flashing on connecting a powered off nokia n900, right? | 20:59 |
| buZz | after > Waiting for USB device... | 20:59 |
| Wizzup | buZz: https://leste.maemo.org/Sync | 21:03 |
| Wizzup | I will try to add some more, but please proof read, or even try it out if you want to | 21:04 |
| Wizzup | I need to go head outside for a bit | 21:04 |
| sicelo | buZz: yes, if the N900 is detected, which should normally be the case | 21:06 |
| sicelo | buZz: you boot with keyboard slid out, right? | 21:07 |
| buZz | sicelo: there's no 'boot' step in those instructions? | 21:08 |
| buZz | i skipped the -l and -b above , didn't think i'd need them with -f | 21:09 |
| buZz | Wizzup: cool! i'll go noob it out, got radicale installed already | 21:09 |
| sicelo | i meant - keyboard is slid out when you do the steps? | 21:12 |
| * sicelo has never used -f ... want to keep Fremantle intact | 21:12 | |
| buZz | sicelo: ah, all the steps? | 21:14 |
| sicelo | yes, at least that way you'll be sure N900 is discoverable by 0xFFFF | 21:18 |
| sicelo | it is discoverable even when closed, to be fair, but some steps require it to be open, so i don't see why i'd close it | 21:18 |
| sicelo | Found USB device: RX-51 (0x421:0x1c7) in RAW disk mode ... <<< wrong mode for sure | 21:21 |
| sicelo | should be in Update Mode for 0xFFFF/flasher | 21:21 |
| buZz | finally, pinephone is compiling devilutionX , pff | 21:25 |
| * buZz switches off n900 again :) lets try again | 21:25 | |
| buZz | the 2020 uboot does work, right? | 21:26 |
| buZz | and just connecting -powered off- should be enough for it to detect the n900? | 21:27 |
| sicelo | yes | 21:27 |
| buZz | maybe its still shutting down .. | 21:27 |
| sicelo | heh, just take battery out? | 21:30 |
| buZz | ok, battery removed, battery put back in, connect on usb with 'waiting for usb device' still running, the n900 boots straight to uboot thats on the device already :/ | 21:31 |
| buZz | -l doesnt help either, maybe its my 0xffff compile? *grabs prebuilt* | 21:32 |
| sicelo | could try a different usb port too | 21:36 |
| buZz | yeah its not happy ; https://paste.debian.net/plain/1256491 | 21:37 |
| buZz | oooo, different usb cable helped :P | 21:38 |
| sicelo | heh | 21:38 |
| buZz | weirdly, all 'high current, short cables' didnt work, but a 5M long micro-usb did | 21:39 |
| buZz | :P | 21:39 |
| norayr | I am thinking what to do for maemo hildonized apps to work on other distros | 22:10 |
| norayr | And maybe instead of porting hildonization to more modern gtks it's better to fork gtk2 and rename it | 22:11 |
| sicelo | um ... | 22:11 |
| sicelo | what applications do you have in mind? | 22:11 |
| norayr | so that our hildonized ghk would work on other distros | 22:12 |
| norayr | Well every hildon app whdch uses let's say hildon buttons | 22:12 |
| norayr | msid, leafpad, mfat, meverything | 22:12 |
| norayr | but maybe that's not possible since they teed hildon to run... | 22:13 |
| norayr | and then that's not good. | 22:13 |
| norayr | i don't know how to solve this problem - our stack usable across oses. | 22:14 |
| norayr | otherwise we are better than nailfish but not much. | 22:14 |
| norayr | that was painful to get rid of sailfish dependency for me. | 22:15 |
| sicelo | many of the hildonized applications came from regular desktop linux... i.e. you can just use the regular desktop versions in other distros | 22:15 |
| norayr | but i don't want to get into other dependency. | 22:15 |
| sicelo | e.g. leafpad | 22:15 |
| norayr | yes but many are developed with hildon in mind and only exist with hildon versions. | 22:16 |
| buZz | seems pinephone doesnt report DPI :( but, does not need the lowres fix, lets see on n900 now | 22:16 |
| sicelo | those aren't many, i think, and can be ported back to regular gtk somewhat easily, i'd say | 22:16 |
| norayr | sigh. maybe you're right. but maybe not many today. if maemo gets used more widely we may get new hdldon only apps. that's not bad, i am thinking on how to use it for advantage. | 22:18 |
| norayr | so forking and renaming gtk2 is one way maybe. getting it to carry everything hildon app needs. | 22:19 |
| sicelo | i'd say - cross that bridge when that day comes :-) | 22:19 |
| norayr | if tdat is possible. | 22:19 |
| sicelo | bear in mind most distros have phased out gtk2 since a while ago | 22:19 |
| norayr | they phased out gnome2 too, then added mate after some time. | 22:20 |
| uvos | http://uvos.xyz/maserati/maemo-contacts-sync.sh | 22:21 |
| uvos | i have been using this for qutie some time for contacts sync via carddav btw | 22:21 |
| Wizzup | uvos: wasn't documented anywhere | 22:33 |
| Wizzup | maybe it's helpful to have these online somewhere | 22:34 |
| Wizzup | uvos: do you sync over tls? | 22:35 |
| sicelo | freemangordon: here's a kernel run that has a trace, https://paste.debian.net/1256495/ ... this is with cf081d009c447647c6b36aced535ca427dbebe72 reverted | 22:48 |
| buZz | lol weird, it almost seems Nokia N900 can compile devilutionX faster than a Pinephone? | 23:32 |
| sicelo | um, what leads to that conclusion? | 23:36 |
| buZz | the speed | 23:54 |
| buZz | :D | 23:54 |
| buZz | lol | 23:54 |
| buZz | i'll make clean , time make , once these tests are done | 23:54 |
| Wizzup | maybe your pinephone io is slow | 23:54 |
| buZz | could be, no idea, seems similar SD cards | 23:54 |
| buZz | sicelo: just make -j1 though, btw | 23:55 |
| buZz | Wizzup: https://twitter.com/buZztiaan/status/1579173632110391297 , my desk couple hrs ago | 23:57 |
| Wizzup | saw it :) | 23:58 |
| Wizzup | do you want me to RT? | 23:58 |
| buZz | sure, feel free to | 23:59 |
| buZz | just want to make noise so more ppl notice we exist ;) | 23:59 |
| Wizzup | mhm | 23:59 |
| Wizzup | I will have the news post ready before openfest too | 23:59 |
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