| Wizzup | uvos: I forgot, when moving microsds to other droid4s, do I need to recalibrate the wifi? | 09:32 |
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| Wizzup | yeah right | 09:36 |
| Wizzup | https://leste.maemo.org/Motorola_Droid_4#Using_a_configured_Leste_sdcard_in_a_different_Droid4 | 09:36 |
| Wizzup | hey I also get rafael's error now, wrt dbus issues | 09:36 |
| Wizzup | that's just a new image, and then apt-get dist-upgrade | 09:38 |
| Wizzup | with -devel enabled | 09:38 |
| _uvos_ | Wizzup: what device? i see nothing on my usual xt894/xt875 installs | 11:58 |
| Wizzup | _uvos_ I solved it by installed iphbd first and then running dist-upgrade | 12:13 |
| freemangordon | Wizzup: modesetting/glamor work on my q8 | 14:07 |
| Wizzup | nice | 14:09 |
| freemangordon | but looks slow | 14:09 |
| freemangordon | despite 2 cores | 14:09 |
| freemangordon | 2 GPU cores | 14:09 |
| Wizzup | mhm, is it with lima? | 14:09 |
| freemangordon | yes | 14:09 |
| Wizzup | hmm | 14:10 |
| freemangordon | lima? | 14:10 |
| freemangordon | like driver? | 14:10 |
| Wizzup | lima gpu | 14:10 |
| Wizzup | yes | 14:10 |
| freemangordon | mali 400 | 14:10 |
| Wizzup | the tablet has mali400 I think | 14:10 |
| freemangordon | yes | 14:10 |
| freemangordon | gears render with ~50 fps | 14:12 |
| freemangordon | ~55 | 14:12 |
| Wizzup | mhm | 14:14 |
| Wizzup | there's so many people at the stand I am losing my voice | 14:14 |
| freemangordon | :) | 14:14 |
| buZz | Wizzup: cool! | 14:15 |
| buZz | take some pictures of the stand with people standing there! its good promotion to show on twitter etc | 14:15 |
| Wizzup | yeah I should ask someone to do that | 14:16 |
| buZz | <3 | 14:16 |
| buZz | Wizzup: be sure to tweet -during- event to invite people to the stand & talk too ;) | 15:54 |
| dreamer | I think buZz wants a job in leste-PR ;) | 16:11 |
| buZz | dreamer: if you look at the retweets of /maemoleste , you might think i already have ;) | 16:14 |
| dreamer | hehe | 16:16 |
| * buZz RTs a bunch of new-ish tweets about leste :P | 16:18 | |
| Wizzup | buZz: sorry probably too much for me to do all at once :D | 16:23 |
| buZz | <3 | 16:24 |
| buZz | np | 16:24 |
| buZz | such a drag always, rebooting droid4 with 'fully charged' battery, comes back up, and doesnt know how full the battery is anymore | 17:01 |
| buZz | :( | 17:01 |
| buZz | need to charge the ~1% back up to hit 'fully charged' again before it knows | 17:01 |
| flok | the screensaver in the qemu image doesn't get out of screensaved mode? | 18:14 |
| freemangordon | press the power button | 18:15 |
| freemangordon | you can disable if you wish | 18:15 |
| freemangordon | settings->display | 18:15 |
| freemangordon | set timeout to 0 | 18:15 |
| flok | oh of course, makes sense. now i have to figure out how to slide the button as my mousecursor is not visible (wasn't that documented on the wiki? let me check) | 18:16 |
| Wizzup | hi | 18:19 |
| flok | ah, usb-mouse | 18:20 |
| Wizzup | flok: were you at openfest today? | 18:22 |
| flok | no | 18:22 |
| flok | I was talking to buZz and he made me intriqued | 18:22 |
| Wizzup | ah, ok :) | 18:22 |
| flok | intrigued | 18:22 |
| Wizzup | cool | 18:25 |
| flok | made a few changes to the wiki (sudo su - should really be sudo -i and you need to configure an usb mouse in virt-manager) | 18:25 |
| Wizzup | isn't sudo -i preserving the environment? | 18:29 |
| Wizzup | oh right, no, | 18:29 |
| Wizzup | sudo su - indeed is not ideal | 18:29 |
| flok | just a minor pet-peeve of mine :-) | 18:31 |
| flok | haha cool, httping works! now I can httping on my phone! :-) | 18:31 |
| flok | I googled for it, but is there a list of phones that are compatible with the current maemo? | 18:37 |
| Wizzup | the wiki should have a list, but it's pretty short, so I can type it here: | 18:38 |
| Wizzup | motorola droid 4, motorola bionic, nokia n900, pinephone | 18:39 |
| Wizzup | there will be more motorola phones, and maybe more nokia phones added to the list later | 18:39 |
| freemangordon | Wizzup: does usb otg work on your olimex? | 18:39 |
| freemangordon | I can't make it work here and it drives me mad :D | 18:40 |
| flok | ok. should I still use madde if I want to develop for maemo? or can I use qtcreator (without the 2010 madde plugin) as well? | 18:40 |
| freemangordon | flok: VM is what we use for development | 18:40 |
| freemangordon | for qt stuff I guess it is tricky, as we move to qt5 | 18:41 |
| freemangordon | *moved | 18:41 |
| flok | ok | 18:41 |
| freemangordon | you don;t really need madde as you simply ssh to device and do whatever you want to | 18:41 |
| freemangordon | for example - I compiled mesa several times on d4 ;) | 18:42 |
| freemangordon | takes time, but still | 18:42 |
| flok | I worked with QTcreator at work a few years ago, nice environment | 18:42 |
| freemangordon | I still prefer it over any other IDE | 18:42 |
| freemangordon | my usual workflow is - ssh mount from my pc to virtualbox VM | 18:43 |
| freemangordon | qtcreator to remotely edit the files | 18:43 |
| Wizzup | freemangordon: I didn't try | 18:43 |
| freemangordon | and then build and test in vm | 18:43 |
| Wizzup | freemangordon: maybe make sure that ke-recv doesn't mess with you | 18:43 |
| freemangordon | Wizzup: well, neither host nor peripheral modes work | 18:44 |
| Wizzup | sry, don't know | 18:44 |
| freemangordon | I can stop ke-recv ofc | 18:44 |
| freemangordon | ok | 18:44 |
| Wizzup | ke-recv should help with the modes | 18:45 |
| Wizzup | maybe some config is missing | 18:45 |
| freemangordon | I enabled everything I found | 18:52 |
| freemangordon | and actually lsusb listst 2 hubs | 18:52 |
| freemangordon | *lists | 18:52 |
| Wizzup | is the configfs for usb also on? | 18:55 |
| freemangordon | yes | 18:57 |
| buZz | Wizzup: flok was looking for the cheapest device to run leste on :P | 19:25 |
| xmn | I mean you have limited choices here no? n900, moto, Pinephone, ....what else? | 19:44 |
| n900 | bah @ moto & pinephone! | 20:45 |
| * n900 hides | 20:45 | |
| xmn | haha | 20:46 |
| xmn | I'm been using my PP for about 2 weeks now as my daily. Since my n900 keyboard keep dropping keys caps :(. It been okay, better then before. But not yet a good replace for my trusted n900. | 20:47 |
| sicelo | flok: mentioning madde makes me think you worked on n900/maemo before? | 20:54 |
| flok | sicelo: never. I'm trying to get into development for the platform and I was skimming the wiki for that. there I saw that madde mentioned a few times. | 20:55 |
| freemangordon | flok: do you know what madde stands for? | 21:16 |
| flok | no, not yet :) | 21:16 |
| freemangordon | MAD DEveloper :) | 21:17 |
| xmn | lol | 21:18 |
| freemangordon | yeah, nokians used to have sense of humor | 21:18 |
| sicelo | ;-) | 21:21 |
| Wizzup | buZz: bionic or d4 | 21:22 |
| freemangordon | Wizzup: hmm, I cannot enable audio either | 22:00 |
| freemangordon | all modules are loaded but there is no alsa device | 22:00 |
| freemangordon | :( | 22:00 |
| freemangordon | oh, wait | 22:00 |
| freemangordon | it is here :) | 22:00 |
| poorboi | Hi. since you guys likely to have n900s around, how's it's battery life in aftermarke t battries?. | 22:24 |
| sicelo | depends on the aftermarket battery itself. and of course, with Maemo Leste and linux mainline, there's no good power management for N900 yet | 22:28 |
| sicelo | polarcell has generally made the best N900 batteries | 22:28 |
| poorboi | what about CSSU? | 22:29 |
| sicelo | that has quite good power management, yes. polarcells are highly recommended, although i'm not sure if they still make new ones | 22:30 |
| poorboi | how long they would last in normal daily usage? | 22:32 |
| freemangordon | and of course glamor refuses to play videos :( | 22:32 |
| sicelo | poorboi: depends on your usage ... but at idle, N900 running Maemo Fremantle with gprs connected draws about 4mA | 22:34 |
| sicelo | with active use throughout the day, it was possible to get a complete day ... i think in 2022 you might get more :-p | 22:35 |
| sicelo | because you might use it a bit less (since almost all browsing doesn't work anymore) | 22:35 |
| sicelo | poorboi: you recently obtained N900? | 22:36 |
| poorboi | no, but found one place which sells it with the same price of a 1280 | 22:36 |
| poorboi | i already have a smart phone, with a poor battery. i wonder if should give up on neat software and take 1280 with good? (how much?) battery or get the n900. | 22:38 |
| sicelo | i see. well, nowadays it might make better sense to get something else besides N900, e.g. Motorola Droid 4 or some other phone supported by the mainline kernel | 22:38 |
| sicelo | but ... it all depends on what really makes sense to you for *your* needs and use-cases | 22:38 |
| sicelo | if decision is 1280 vs. N900 ... i'd always pick N900 :-p | 22:39 |
| sicelo | but the 1280 probably needs to charge only once a month, heh | 22:39 |
| poorboi | sicelo: 4mA / m? | 22:41 |
| sicelo | at around 3.8v, the current draw is 4mA ... i.e. about 15mW. what's /m? | 22:45 |
| poorboi | minute :) | 22:46 |
| poorboi | i barely know any electrics. | 22:46 |
| xmn | Crazy how well the n900 battery lasted when compared to the PP. And the Polarcell is a great supplier. I'm running them right now. All other don't hold charge after a short time cycling through charges. | 23:43 |
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