libera/#maemo-leste/ Monday, 2022-10-24

Wizzupuvos: at least bionic shows '4 days' on 85% battery atm00:33
Wizzup:)00:33
buZzhmm, sphone's 'recent' button now crashes the program?01:53
WizzupbuZz: how does it crash it for you?02:16
WizzupbuZz: hangs?02:16
buZzgets in some loop, yeah, hangs until hildon complains about it02:16
buZztime for bed :)02:17
buZznn02:17
Wizzupgn02:17
uvos__aaand i broke the usb connector of my primary d4 clean off :(10:30
uvos__(i was an idiot)10:30
siceloi suppose it's not too difficult to resolder it10:43
uvos__sicelo: depends10:48
uvos__i have to open it up to see if the pads survived10:48
uvos__cant atm10:48
uvos__if they did sure, if not then its a write off.10:49
sicelo hopefully they're exposed somewhere else10:51
sicelohttps://guide-images.cdn.ifixit.com/igi/kcWhSolfitSr1poZ.huge  , damn, it does look like this will be a tricky job11:12
uvos__sicelo: i have done it before11:13
uvos__if the pads are gone its over11:13
uvos__but otherwise its doable11:13
uvos__so yeah there are no reasonable places to add bodge wires to get the usb pins elsewhere11:14
sicelobtw no schematics leaked?11:16
uvos__no11:23
rafael2kuvos__, it was my fault yesterday11:25
rafael2ksphone is working fine11:25
rafael2kit was just a path issue in /etc/ringtones in the package I created. I already fixed it11:26
rafael2kjust the "Speaker" button is still not working, but all the rest is working fine and 100% useful!11:26
uvos__ok11:36
rafael2klibcamera sample app "cam" now output DNG, which is good as it can be converted easily to any other format11:41
uvos__only if all the dng metadata is correct11:50
uvos__otherwise itsostly useless non-interpretable data11:50
uvos__*its mostly11:50
rafael2kthe is correct of course... it was quite a work11:51
rafael2kI hope11:51
buZzuvos__: does the 'recent' button on the latest -dev sphone work for you?12:29
buZzalso, morning :)12:29
uvos__buZz: no idea, see recent unfortionate accident with my d412:29
uvos__(i dont have any leste device atm)12:30
buZzah :(12:30
buZzcant move sim&sd easily?12:30
uvos__that was the only device i have here12:30
buZzah :(12:30
buZzwell, hopefully Wizzup can bring a big pile soonish12:30
uvos__well i also have others, but they are at my place and i wont be there for a while12:31
buZznobody there that could send one? :P12:31
uvos__maybe12:31
uvos__but it just broke so nothing organized yet12:31
buZzsicelo: they quite damaged that board while removing the shields :D12:32
buZzuvos__: right, ok, just thinking along ;)12:32
buZzi still want to take apart my d4 to try and fix the slides/hinges a bit, they feel kinda sloppy12:33
uvos__i have done that12:33
uvos__its pretty easy12:33
siceloyes, they don't always do a good job. on their N900 teardown, they tore the ribbon12:33
uvos__you just have to bend the mettal plate on the back of the display inwards12:33
uvos__this just involves removeing the display12:34
uvos__other than fiddeling with the fragile ribbon its not very hard12:34
buZznice12:34
buZzmaybe it would be nice as a video or timelapse12:34
buZz'how to keep your 10yo phone working nicely' and end with 'and now you install maemo leste'12:35
buZz:D12:35
uvos__the d4 board is also fairly hard to unshileld12:35
uvos__with it haveing an absolutly absurd number of chips for a mobile phone12:36
uvos__and the shields being compartmentalzed12:36
buZzhmhm, would need hotair or a hotplate perhaps12:36
buZzor add bismuth solder to the shield joints :P12:37
buZz(to lower melting temp a lot)12:37
buZzi noticed sphone has 'commtest' as backend aswell, is that for trying in virtualbox?12:41
buZzor other vm12:41
buZzhttps://youtu.be/Bht-vgRVGNw  <-- i was here last saturday, showed loads of people maemo leste, some even had a n900 with maemo5 on it with them :P12:44
buZz(careful, kinda loud)12:44
siceloheh, interesting @maemo512:51
buZzi'm asking https://www.youtube.com/c/TongZou44 if they want to do a video on Leste ;)12:55
buZzthey got so many videos about older cellphones, i'm sure they have a N900 or a Droid 4 ;)12:55
norayruvos, what happened to your droid4? i was busy/offline at times, so missed.14:18
norayrrafael2k: you have libcamera news? etting dng files on something?14:19
buZznorayr: USB plug broke off :(14:20
buZznorayr: camera for d4? :D :D :D14:20
sicelopp15:07
rafael2knorayr: the colorspace / pixel format converters in libcamera are broken on the PinePhone, but the DNG output is working fine!15:46
rafael2kPP...15:47
rafael2kand PP Pro once we have support to it. other phones I have no idea.15:47
siceloi know laurent would like to see the omap camera subsystems supported too.15:57
rafael2kindeed15:58
freemangordoncan anyone here help me with asoc routing?17:01
freemangordonwhat am I suppose to do so gpio 'simple-amplifier' switch to be turned on when playback starts?17:02
ceenecd18:04
sicelobtw, when making an MR for something in 'core', you do it against master branch? or some other, e.g. beowulf?18:42
siceloWizzup: https://github.com/maemo-leste/hildon-usb-gadgets/pull/118:52
Wizzupsicelo: does this require a different kernel module on linux?19:12
buZzsome_name_here annoys me :)19:12
Wizzupsicelo: usually just PR against master19:12
sicelono, i just made only that change, built on device, and it worked. didn't mess with kernel19:13
siceloactually yes, different module :-)19:13
sicelobut it's a module we already build19:13
WizzupI mean different module for the linux side (not the leste side)19:13
siceloah, pc side, yes too, but again, it's always there19:14
sicelorndis_host and rndis_wlan (no idea why the wlan gets used)19:16
Wizzupok, I think it seems simple but we seem to make sure we don't break things19:16
sicelosure, tyt :-)19:17
sicelomaybe there's a way to make cdc ecm work with windows, but at least it's super hard. i didn't get very far, after spending quite some time19:18
WizzupI think it's a fair chance, I just don't want to lock others out19:19
siceloone thing i couldn't figure out is - does CDC ECM work fine on macOS? what about RNDIS? i tried to ask around and couldn't find a clear answer19:20
siceloi do expect macOS to support both however, like linux19:20
Wizzuplet me see if I have it on in my gentoo kerne19:22
Wizzup;)19:22
sicelocool19:23
siceloat least i can also say that some android phones present themselves in rndis mode when USB Tethering is selected19:27
sicelobuZz: at least "some_name_here" is understandable. i was taken aback by "The only one.1" :-p19:31
sicelowhen i poked around configfs for this issue, and met that name, i wondered if i didn't have some malware, heh19:33
WizzupPlease come up with proper descs for that too19:36
Wizzupif you can19:38
sicelowe can just use what the gadget docs show, i.e.19:40
sicelos/The\ only\ one.1/c.1/19:40
sicelos/some_name_here/rndis.usb0/19:41
sicelootoh, those are fun in some way, that's why i didn't touch them19:41
sicelo(or s/some_name_here/ecm.usb0/  if we don't adopt rndis, of course)19:42
WizzupI think saying Maemo Leste somehow might make sense, in the description?19:43
siceloyes, i think we have Bar Gadget or similar for now19:44
Wizzupyeah.19:44
uvosso good/bad news on my d419:44
uvosthe 5 usb pins survived, but the ground plane that mechanicly holds the usb connector inplace totaly sheared off19:46
uvosrelly the connector is extreamly well  fixed to the pcb, the entire bottom surface is soldered to the board as one coninous pad19:46
uvos(thats now gone)19:46
buZzsicelo: lol yeah, there i go with 3x leste hooked up19:50
buZzuvos: some epoxy?19:50
uvosbuZz: might be doable, but the connector itself is totaly demolished/ bent out of shape19:51
uvosso cant try it rn19:51
Wizzupuvos: I can send you some more if you need em19:52
Wizzupuvos: I also ordered 5x droid2's19:52
Wizzup2 white, 3 black19:53
Wizzupso if I manage to get it all home I can send you some of those, too19:53
uvosWizzup: thats neat :). still i want to recue this one - also the immidate problem is that this is the only leste device i had with me19:53
uvos*rescue19:54
uvosanyhow i would defently recomend not takeing a seat on the device while its pluged in to usb xD19:55
siceloWizzup: the ones that make the most sense to name are product and manufacturer, plus maybe serial number (pmOS sets it to postmarketOS).19:57
sicelodo we have some way to identify what device leste is running on? if so, perhaps that's where product and manufacturer could come from, maybe extending hildon-usb-gadget to accept that as arguments19:58
uvossicelo: sure19:58
uvosthe of name of the device19:59
sicelowhere is it stored?20:00
siceloah, you mean dts20:00
uvosyou can read it from /proc/devicetree or something?20:00
uvoscant check right now becasue - you know20:01
siceloyes i know that one20:01
Wizzupthat could work, we don't really have anything like osso productinfo atm20:03
buZzsicelo: i was thinking maybe we could use some serial per device aswell, maybe /etc/machine-id ?21:07
buZzit stays so weird ;  i press a button on keyb, screen turns on , button doesnt arrive to program (logical) , i press the button again , button doesnt arrive to program (ehhhh) , i press the button AGAIN , FINALLY button arrives at program22:54
buZzi guess somehow xorg doesnt realize we're 'active' ?22:54
uvosi dont use tklock23:15
uvosbut freemangordon recently reorder the display depending modules in mce23:16
uvosand i can see that being a consequence of that23:16
uvossince both systemui tklock and mce redundantly implement oneclick mode23:16
uvosi assume this happens in any program23:18
uvosotherwise it could also be a bug in how hildon-desktop assings keyboard focus23:18
uvosthis is also known to be buggy23:18
uvoswhen appications are involved that use x10 methods or do focus stealing23:19

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