libera/#maemo/ Wednesday, 2018-07-04

pirlahello everyone17:24
pirlajust got a nokia n900 to try, how can I install debian (with no maemo) on it?17:24
KotCzarnyat this point you might as well go for maemo-leste17:25
pirlawhat's that?17:25
KotCzarnydevuan for n90017:25
pirlayes, how can i install it?17:25
KotCzarnyrecent kernel etc, obviously not fully functional as a phone/pda yet17:26
KotCzarnythere was an img floating17:26
KotCzarnyhttps://leste.maemo.org/Nokia_N90017:27
pirlathx, checking out17:27
pirlaI see I need flasher, which isn't around from some time17:30
KotCzarnyit is17:30
KotCzarnyeither 0xffff and flasher-3.5 is freely available17:30
pirlawhere?17:32
KotCzarny0xffff is open source project17:32
KotCzarnyand old nokia binary is probably somewhere around:17:32
KotCzarny~flasher17:32
infobotrefer ~flashing; http://www.jedge.com/n810/flasher/maemo_flasher-3.5_2.5.2.2.tar.gz (also .exe!), or http://www.chakra-project.org/ccr/packages.php?ID=5027 or generally http://www.google.com/search?q=maemo_flasher-3.5_2.5.2.2.tar.gz.   HARMattan(N9): https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/fl/flasher-harmattan/flasher-harmattan.tar.gz; list of filenames/md5sums: http://pastebin.com/sYKdNJSH, or http://galif.eu/nokia/17:32
pirlaThanks again, I downloaded it17:37
pirlanow, I see I have to type a dd command, what's the correct syntax?17:38
KotCzarnyread the page i've linked17:38
KotCzarnythere are descriptions/instructions17:38
pirlaI can't find instructions17:39
Juestoman dd17:39
KotCzarnyahm17:39
KotCzarnyok17:39
KotCzarnyxz -dc file.img.xz | dd bs=1M >/dev/yourmmcdevice17:40
pirlaI tried dd maemo-whatever /path to sd/17:40
KotCzarnyno, path to sd is filesystem17:41
KotCzarnyyou need to write to block device17:41
pirlasorry, can't understand17:41
Juestook, you seem to need a gnu/linux lessons before17:41
pirlaoh I see17:41
KotCzarnyexample, /dev/sdj might be block device17:41
pirlaI need to put there the /dev17:42
Juestoyou need to know what's your target file17:42
KotCzarnybut if you mount /dev/sdj4 /some/path it will mount filesystem from 4th partition of sdj at given path17:42
Juestodd needs if= and of=17:42
KotCzarnyand since you are new to this, better watch out, you can wipe some other drive if you dont know what you are doing17:42
KotCzarny /dev/sdj* above was obviously some random example17:43
KotCzarnyyou have to know what you are going to overwrite before you do it17:43
KotCzarnyjuesto: wrong17:44
JuestoAnd i suggest going with a computer and such, n900 gui is kind of best for the device especially when you dont know about technical stuff17:44
JuestoKotCzarny: Depends on dd version17:44
pirlayes, I know thanks. I just can't really understand how dd works17:44
KotCzarnyno. any version.17:44
Juesto:/17:44
Juestoagain, see man dd17:45
KotCzarnyin the line i've written above specifying if= would be wrong17:45
KotCzarnyunless you would use if=/dev/stdin17:45
Juestoah ok17:47
Juestobut of= is correct :p17:47
KotCzarnyits optional17:47
Juestohm17:47
Juestoagain, depends on version, sort of17:48
KotCzarnyagain, wrong17:48
Juestoit doesnt really accept just "filename"17:48
KotCzarnyin this example it writes to /dev/stdout which is redirected to /dev/yourmmcdevice17:48
Juestoi see, thanks17:49
pirlaSo, I just dd-ed the img on the sd17:51
pirlanow what?17:56
KotCzarnysee the forum link from that page17:56
KotCzarnydd the image to an sd card. Then boot from the sd card using either 0xFFFF/flasher-3.5 or u-boot/bootmenu: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=8161317:56
KotCzarnyor read how to boot using flasher booting mode17:57
pirlahow do I boot from sd? do I need to do this on phone or on pc?17:57
KotCzarnydepends, do you have uboot/bootmenu currently?17:58
KotCzarnyif not, i guess you can just take kernel+ramdisk and boot with flasher in one-time mode17:58
pirlano, but I saw there's another bootloader in17:58
pirlagive me just 2 minutes17:58
KotCzarnyyou will also need proper linux cmdline i guess17:58
pirlayes, I'm on stretch17:58
pirlaI have nitdroid bootloader18:00
KotCzarnyi guess you would have to read how to add another kernel+ramdisk+params combo to it18:00
pirlareally? I just want Debian, nothing more18:01
KotCzarnythen if you have pc available, just boot it via flasher18:01
pirlahow?18:01
Juestoit says in the instructions....18:02
pirlaif I try to launch flasher I get a non-existent file/folder error18:02
KotCzarnyyou need proper params, running things blindly wouldnt help18:02
pirlado I really need a phd to run debian on my phone?18:03
KotCzarnyno, but you should know what you are doing18:03
pirlaalmost, 50-5018:03
Juesto50-50 is not enough18:04
pirlaI just can't understand how to "boot from flasher"18:04
JuestoRead18:04
KotCzarnyhttps://n900.quitesimple.org/rescueOS/rescueOS-1.2/documentation.txt18:04
KotCzarnyit's an example from rescueos18:04
KotCzarnyyou can see params there, which will be different in your case18:05
Juestois there a official documentation or manpage for it?18:05
KotCzarnyroot will be probably /dev/mmcblk0 or something18:05
KotCzarnyand kernel/ramdisk filenames you have to extract to your pc from that img or tar18:05
KotCzarnys/filenames/files18:06
pirlaI can't understand what are you saying18:08
pirlawhat does "boot from flasher" mean?18:08
pirlaI have to connect my phone to pc?18:08
KotCzarnyyes18:08
pirlaok18:08
pirlaDo I need to press u?18:09
KotCzarnyi suspect the usual flasher instruction applies. although important change is adding -b param to boot instead of flashing18:09
pirlaexcuse me, why can't I execute flasher? it exits with a "non existent file/folder" error18:20
KotCzarnypaste the error message18:20
pirlaroot@DESKTOP-K6M1K7O:~/Scaricati/maemo_flasher-3.5_2.5.2.2# ./flasher-3.5 --help bash: ./flasher-3.5: File o directory non esistente18:20
Juestopirla: make sure you're writing the correct commandline18:20
JuestoBecause the file is not in there18:21
KotCzarnymaybe you need 32bit compatibility libs18:21
Juestoif its there then you need to run bash ./flasher-3.518:21
pirlayes, you're right18:21
pirlaI need 32 bit lib18:21
Juestodid you try chmod +x to the file?18:21
pirlayes18:21
Juestostill doesnt run?18:21
Juestohm18:21
pirlaI'm on a 64 bit Debian Stretch18:22
KotCzarnyyou will probably have to install libusb0-32bit or something18:22
pirlabetter: I did an apt-get install 0xffff18:23
KotCzarnythat should be better option, yes18:23
pirlaOk, so when running I get a nothing to do18:24
KotCzarnyparams?18:24
pirlaI'm checking what could I need from the -help18:25
pirlaSummary: I have the phone in upload mode, I also have the usb icon on the topright18:38
pirlanow, what should I type in order to flash my image?18:39
pirlaI have leste flashed to the sd18:39
KotCzarnydid you extract kernel, ramdisk from the sdcard?18:40
pirlaDon't know, I did a dd18:40
KotCzarnyyes, to write sdcard, but to boot from pc you should copy them out18:40
pirlapc?18:40
KotCzarnywhere do you run the flasher?18:42
pirlaon pc18:42
pirlaok, so I'm redownloading the image18:43
KotCzarnywhat for?18:43
KotCzarnyjust eject the card and put into pc18:43
pirlaI erased it because I didn't knew it was required again18:43
pirlaok, getting everything from sd18:44
pirlauimage and zimage18:46
pirlaOk, now I have a folder named debian in my home, I have to launch 0xffff18:53
pirlawhat should I type?18:53
pirlaI copyed everything from sd18:53
pirlaHere's the output of -I:18:58
pirlaroot@DESKTOP-K6M1K7O:~/debian# 0xFFFF -I 0xFFFF v0.7  // Open Free Fiasco Firmware Flasher  Not a local device  Waiting for USB device...   Found USB device: SU-18/RX-44/RX-48/RX-51/RM-680/RM-696 (0x421:0x105) in NOLO mode USB device product string: Nokia N900 (Update mode) USB device serial number string: MUM415144 Detected USB device: RX-51              Initializing NOLO... Device: RX-51 HW revision: 2101 NOLO version: 1.4.14 Kernel v18:59
pirlaInitfs version: (not detected) Software release version: RX-51_2009SE_21.2011.38-1_PR_MR0 Content eMMC version: RX-51_2009SE_10.2010.13-2.VANILLA Root device: flash USB host mode: disabled R&D mode: disabled19:00
pirlaplease19:07
pirlaanyone?19:08
KotCzarnyhttps://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1540874&postcount=719:10
KotCzarnymaybe this one19:10
pirlaYes, thanks! Works19:13
pirlaWow!19:13
pirlaCan't wait to give this a ride. Thank you everyone.19:13
pirlabye19:13
pirlaHello everyone20:44
pirlaNow what?20:45
pirlaI have a leste system running on my N900 Nokia20:45
pirlaI only have settings, x terminal and tana_ap_user20:46
pirlaas apps20:46
KotCzarnyyou have terminal, you have working x, what do you need more?20:47
pirlaapps?20:47
KotCzarnyapt-get install ?20:48
pirlaYes, but I don't have networking wifi20:48
KotCzarnywpa_supplicant + dhclient/dhcpcd ?20:49
pirlaYes, but with which network?20:50
pirlaI can't physically connect my phone to wifi20:50
KotCzarnyare you really asking me what wireless ssid you have?20:50
pirlano20:51
pirlamy net hw is not working on my phone20:51
KotCzarnyyou mean you dont have 2.4ghz or something else is the problem?20:51
pirlait's like the driver is missing20:52
KotCzarnywireless should work20:53
pirlatried issuing wpa-supplicant and wpa_supplicant, both don't exist20:55
KotCzarnyhmm, maybe it's added later, image is from april20:55
KotCzarnywizzup: ping20:56
pirlaBut is it ok I just have settings and terminal, with nothing else?20:56
KotCzarnyyeah, it's pre-alpha state20:56
pirlaNevermind, sudo was needed. Know from #maemo-leste20:57
pirlaI'm gonna be there now20:57
WizzupKotCzarny: pong21:00
WizzupI replied21:00
KotCzarnyyeah, thanks for that21:00
Wizzuphe quit though21:01
KotCzarnynew kids dont know how to use irc21:04
siceloanniversary. i bought my N900 on this day in 2011 :)22:08
KotCzarny:)22:11
KotCzarnyi dont remember exact date of mine22:11
siceloi had lusted after if for months22:13
sicelos/if/it/22:14
infobotsicelo meant: i had lusted after it for months22:14
KotCzarnybencoh: hmm, mirrors.muarf.org (78.192.65.63) seems to be down22:40
JuestoWizzup: wow, how mean. he was here before as you can see....22:42
bencohKotCzarny: the "official" one is maemo.muarf.org23:01
bencohbut yeah I know :(23:01
KotCzarnyi must fix my sources.list then, hrm23:03

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