DocScrutinizer05 | check out Samsung Note9 DeX. Awesome (well sort of, if only there were standard apps for it) | 00:09 |
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DocScrutinizer05 | anyway turns your smartphone into a micro-"brick" aka "laptop" | 00:10 |
sixwheeledbeast | ubuntu-mate has gpd pocket builds | 00:16 |
sicelo | so my main N900 lost the magnet for back cover, and sd cards not detected anymore. | 00:17 |
sicelo | in fact, not lost, but somehow rusted, turned to powder | 00:17 |
sixwheeledbeast | ~fixmagnet | 00:18 |
sixwheeledbeast | ~ping | 00:18 |
infobot | ~pong | 00:18 |
sixwheeledbeast | ~toast | 00:18 |
infobot | well, toast is a foreign substance entered through one of the bodys many holes that can be used as an energy source. A man once said that toast is great with marmite - but you either love it or you hate it, personally i prefer cheese on my toast, red leicester cheese...... my mouth be watering....... | 00:18 |
sicelo | is there suck factoid? | 00:18 |
sicelo | *such | 00:18 |
sixwheeledbeast | ~listkeys fix | 00:18 |
infobot | Factoid search of 'fix' by key (15 of 107): /var/lib/dpkg/availble fix ;; aad kde crash fix ;; affix ;; aucfix41 ;; can/ we/ fix/ it/ ;; creative fix ;; creativefix ;; cvs fix ;; dos loadfix ;; fix for prboom for c7x0 ;; fixed ;; fixed sid ssh packages ;; fixing the checks in mtdpart.c ;; gdm fix ;; go fix yourself. | 00:18 |
sicelo | ~listkeys magnet | 00:19 |
infobot | Factoid search of 'magnet' by key (4): security magnetic remanence ;; for�a eletromagnetica ;; magnet ;; captainmagneto. | 00:19 |
sixwheeledbeast | hmm maybe there isn't one | 00:19 |
sicelo | anyway, i am just wondering how the magnet should be inserted. e.g. which direction do the poles faces | 00:19 |
buZz | sicelo: oh eh, i think i can measure that if i brought my compass here | 00:32 |
buZz | i did! | 00:33 |
buZz | now where is one of my n900s | 00:33 |
sixwheeledbeast | while true; do cat /sys/devices/platform/mmci-omap-hs.0/mmc_host\:mmc0/cover_switch; done | 00:35 |
buZz | good point, could just measure | 00:36 |
sixwheeledbeast | I need to add that to my list | 00:36 |
sixwheeledbeast | ~beasttweaks | 00:36 |
infobot | beasttweaks is probably http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Sixwheeledbeast/Scripts | 00:36 |
buZz | hmm, bit vague, seems the north pole is pointing to the right-side of the n900 , with the backlid towards you | 00:38 |
buZz | oh, no | 00:38 |
buZz | north is pointing outward from camera, south inward | 00:39 |
sixwheeledbeast | ~botsnack | 00:40 |
infobot | :), sixwheeledbeast | 00:40 |
sixwheeledbeast | damn my device is being slow. | 00:43 |
sixwheeledbeast | uptime 14 days and it's still indexing my music. | 00:43 |
sixwheeledbeast | damn you tracker | 00:43 |
brolin_empey | “damn my device is being slow.” | 01:16 |
brolin_empey | I thought that is normal for the N900. :-P | 01:16 |
brolin_empey | DocScrutinizer05: The Galaxy Note 5 and later have a difficult to remove battery, which sucks. The Galaxy Note 4 is theoretically an upgrade from the Galaxy Note 3 I still use but, in practice, the Galaxy Note 4 seems to have problems that the Galaxy Note 3 does not have so I will stay with my Snapdragon-based Galaxy Note 3. | 01:19 |
Maxdamantus | afair, the only way to use the SD card without the back cover is to do something at the kernel level. I posted a patch on the forms a while ago for omap_hsmmc to ignore that switch. | 02:24 |
Maxdamantus | since the omap_hsmmc module itself will remove access to the card under those conditions. | 02:25 |
Maxdamantus | imo that's extremely bad behaviour anyway. It should be up to user-level software to detect the cover and to attempt to unmount the filesystem, rather than just randomly making it inaccessible at a block level. | 02:26 |
Maxdamantus | Analogous to pulling out a drive from a running system. | 02:27 |
DocScrutinizer05 | brolin_empey: I'm absolutely sure changing battery is a major PITA in any recent mainstream smartphomne | 02:28 |
bencoh | pretty much everything for which the device wasn't meant is a major PITA nowadays | 02:29 |
DocScrutinizer05 | ~ping | 02:30 |
DocScrutinizer05 | ~fsckyou | 02:30 |
DocScrutinizer05 | ~lstkeys " magnet " | 02:31 |
DocScrutinizer05 | ~listkeys " magnet " | 02:31 |
infobot | Factoid search of ' magnet ' by key returned no results. | 02:31 |
brolin_empey | DocScrutinizer05: infobot replies if you ask them if they are pregnant. :-P | 02:32 |
DocScrutinizer05 | huh? | 02:32 |
brolin_empey | infobot: Pregnant? | 02:32 |
DocScrutinizer05 | well, it has over 100k factoids | 02:32 |
DocScrutinizer05 | ~+status | 02:33 |
DocScrutinizer05 | and it lags like mad | 02:33 |
DocScrutinizer05 | soon will go offline again with ping timeout | 02:34 |
brolin_empey | It used to reply with something like “Yes, and it is yours.”. Search the channel log for when I asked it if it is pregnant years ago. | 02:34 |
DocScrutinizer05 | I'm not excited | 02:34 |
brolin_empey | I was joking because you said ~fsckyou, implying that you impregnated it. | 02:34 |
infobot | Yes, brolin_empey, and it's your child. | 02:35 |
DocScrutinizer05 | ooooh | 02:35 |
infobot | Since Fri Oct 26 00:28:51 2018, there have been 0 modifications, 1 question, 0 dunnos, 0 morons and 1 command. I have been awake for 6m 31s this session, and currently reference 119772 factoids. I'm using about 80364 kB of memory. With 0 active forks. Process time user/system 1.43/0.49 child 0/0 | 02:35 |
DocScrutinizer05 | ~+uptime | 02:35 |
infobot | - Uptime for purl - | 02:35 |
infobot | Now: 6m 44s running infobot 1.5.4 (SVN) -- linux | 02:35 |
infobot | 1: 59d 8h 41m 19s running infobot 1.5.4 (SVN) -- linux, ended Sun Nov 14 18:39:57 2010 | 02:35 |
infobot | 2: 57d 3h 9m 23s running infobot 1.5.4 (SVN) -- linux, ended Fri Jun 26 20:39:27 2009 | 02:35 |
infobot | 3: 53d 8h 24m 4s running infobot 1.5.4 (SVN) -- linux, ended Tue Nov 7 05:34:20 2017 | 02:35 |
DocScrutinizer05 | ~listkeys #maemo*magnet | 02:36 |
infobot | Factoid search of '#maemo*magnet' by key returned no results. | 02:36 |
DocScrutinizer05 | ~listkeys #maemo.*magnet | 02:36 |
infobot | Factoid search of '#maemo.*magnet' by key returned no results. | 02:36 |
DocScrutinizer05 | ~listvalues magnet | 02:36 |
infobot | Factoid search of 'magnet' by value (18 of 45): cmd: kill (.*?) ;; core ;; emi ;; emms ;; emulate ag` ;; gtkextra ;; infinite guitar ;; jargon bare metal4 ;; jargon book titles9 ;; jargon cut a tape ;; jargon farming ;; jargon flap ;; jargon rusty memory ;; jargon vannevar ;; jargon walking drives ;; jedstate ;; magnet ;; nmr. | 02:37 |
DocScrutinizer05 | ~magnet | 02:37 |
infobot | from memory, magnet is magnet:?xt=urn:btih:9b0fa597ab8bdd89a57434876947dbe378a79aad&dn=devuan_jessie_beta&tr=udp://tracker.dyne.org:6969 | 02:37 |
DocScrutinizer05 | phhh | 02:37 |
DocScrutinizer05 | ~factinfo magnet | 02:38 |
infobot | magnet -- created by jaromil <~jaromil@unaffiliated/jaromil> at Fri Apr 29 19:06:41 2016 (909 days); it has been requested 4 times, last by DocScrutinizer05, 26s ago. | 02:38 |
DocScrutinizer05 | ohmy | 02:38 |
brolin_empey | infobot: Menopausal? | 02:38 |
DocScrutinizer05 | ~forget magnet | 02:39 |
infobot | DocScrutinizer05: i forgot magnet | 02:39 |
DocScrutinizer05 | ~listkeys cover | 02:39 |
infobot | Factoid search of 'cover' by key (13 of 25): discovery channel ;; i don't know if bub's compaq recover cd ;; mugen-cover-mod ;; security recovery procedures ;; security covert channel ;; black cover ;; discovers that scribble pad ;; system compromise recovery ;; flatbatrecover ;; recover ;; system recovery ;; discovery ;; tv coverage. | 02:39 |
DocScrutinizer05 | ~forget i don't know if bub's compaq recover cd | 02:40 |
infobot | i forgot i don't know if bub's compaq recover cd, DocScrutinizer05 | 02:40 |
DocScrutinizer05 | ~forget discovers that scribble pad | 02:40 |
infobot | i forgot discovers that scribble pad, DocScrutinizer05 | 02:40 |
brolin_empey | ~forget future | 02:40 |
infobot | brolin_empey: i forgot future | 02:40 |
DocScrutinizer05 | ~listkeys 'cover ' | 02:41 |
infobot | Factoid search of 'cover ' by key (4): cmd: whalecover (.*?) ;; i did manage to discover that ucb1200 gpio control #DEL# ;; i don't know if bub's compaq recover cd #DEL# ;; flatbatrecover #DEL#. | 02:41 |
brolin_empey | 0_o | 02:41 |
DocScrutinizer05 | ~unforget future | 02:41 |
infobot | DocScrutinizer05: Successfully recovered 'future'. Have fun now. | 02:41 |
brolin_empey | What was the future? | 02:41 |
DocScrutinizer05 | ~ignore brolin_empey | 02:41 |
infobot | error: chan #maemo is invalid. | 02:41 |
DocScrutinizer05 | ~factinfo future | 02:42 |
infobot | future -- created by sydb <mpacey@host62-7-103-113.btinternet.com> at Fri Sep 1 21:40:06 2000 (6628 days); last modified 1m 33s ago by brolin_empey; it has been requested 5 times, last by ZogG_laptop at Thu Jul 19 11:41:29 2012. | 02:42 |
brolin_empey | ~future | 02:42 |
infobot | i guess future is bright | 02:42 |
brolin_empey | ~past | 02:43 |
brolin_empey | A history of the future, heh. | 02:44 |
DocScrutinizer05 | ~past is <reply>today's past is yesterday's future | 02:44 |
infobot | okay, DocScrutinizer05 | 02:44 |
DocScrutinizer05 | ~past | 02:45 |
infobot | today's past is yesterday's future | 02:45 |
DocScrutinizer05 | ~attack brolin_empey | 02:46 |
* infobot grabs a pen, screams like she's possessed, and begins chasing brolin_empey | 02:46 | |
infobot | #maemo brolin_empey, it's your fault! | 02:46 |
infobot | now try to be a cool daddy | 02:47 |
brolin_empey | Is the national debt of the USA like entropy? | 02:48 |
DocScrutinizer05 | never shrinking? | 02:48 |
brolin_empey | It can only remain the same or increase? | 02:50 |
DocScrutinizer05 | what I said ;-) | 02:50 |
DocScrutinizer05 | like time goes backward, like water goes over the bridge, US national dept shrinks | 02:51 |
* DocScrutinizer05 suspects there's no factoid dealing with missing magnet in N900 cover | 02:52 | |
DocScrutinizer05 | ~#maemo magnet is <reply>the magnet in cover points south pole outwards, N to device | 02:56 |
infobot | okay, DocScrutinizer05 | 02:56 |
DocScrutinizer05 | HTH | 02:57 |
DocScrutinizer05 | ~magnet | 02:57 |
infobot | the magnet in cover points south pole outwards, N to device | 02:57 |
DocScrutinizer05 | infobot: no, #maemo magnet is <reply>in Nokia N900 the magnet in battery cover points south pole outwards, N to device | 02:58 |
infobot | DocScrutinizer05: okay | 02:58 |
DocScrutinizer05 | ~magnet | 02:58 |
infobot | in Nokia N900 the magnet in battery cover points south pole outwards, N to device | 02:58 |
DocScrutinizer05 | N.B: the N pole of any free spinning magnet turns to eath's south | 02:59 |
DocScrutinizer05 | does it? | 03:00 |
DocScrutinizer05 | actually NOOOO! what a fuck, the earth has a magnetic NORTH pole on south, and a SOUTH pole at north | 03:02 |
DocScrutinizer05 | what a weird idiocy | 03:02 |
DocScrutinizer05 | so a magnetic N is what points to earth's N | 03:03 |
DocScrutinizer05 | infobot: no, #maemo magnet is <reply>in Nokia N900 the magnet in battery cover points north pole outwards, S to device | 03:04 |
infobot | DocScrutinizer05: okay | 03:04 |
DocScrutinizer05 | IOW when you'd use the N900 as a compass needle, the screen would point South, and backside North | 03:06 |
DocScrutinizer05 | https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datei:Erdmagnetfeld.png | 03:09 |
DocScrutinizer05 | https://www.waldorf-ideen-pool.de/Schule/faecher/physik/klasse-7/magnetismus/allgemeines/geographischer-nordpol-und-magnetischer-suedpol | 03:11 |
DocScrutinizer05 | sixwheeledbeast: >>uptime 14 days and it's still indexing my music<< are you sure you didn't just close your battery cover so tracker restarted indexing the complete uSD? | 03:14 |
DocScrutinizer05 | btw a *NASTY* fscked problem when you got a magnetic clip closing the lid of your N900 holster, each time you remove the device, it slides along the holster's magnet and may think the battery lid got removed for a fraction of a second | 03:16 |
DocScrutinizer05 | ... and thus restart tracker indexing | 03:16 |
DocScrutinizer05 | :-S | 03:17 |
DocScrutinizer05 | brolin_empey: you already asleep? or did you run from infobot before she starts bitching at you about the baby? | 03:18 |
DocScrutinizer05 | ~+status | 03:18 |
infobot | Since Fri Oct 26 00:28:51 2018, there have been 8 modifications, 7 questions, 0 dunnos, 0 morons and 10 commands. I have been awake for 50m 8s this session, and currently reference 119774 factoids. I'm using about 80860 kB of memory. With 0 active forks. Process time user/system 4.81/1.34 child 0/0 | 03:18 |
brolin_empey | DocScrutinizer05: I just came home from my office. It is 18:50 here. | 03:51 |
sicelo | thanks buZz for checking. now, to find a suitable magnet :-) | 07:41 |
Vajb | get some huge neodym magnet :p | 08:10 |
totalizator | sicelo: haven't heard about Maemo Leste, thanks | 09:59 |
totalizator | oh gosh, I remember the day when my magnet from n900 fell into the grass, like in slow motion ;__; | 10:01 |
KotCzarny | for one of my n900s without magnes i just bough replacement (used) cover cheaply ~1usd | 10:04 |
sicelo | how much is a complete working N900 KotCzarny? | 10:06 |
KotCzarny | depends on luck | 10:07 |
KotCzarny | from ~20usd to ~50usd | 10:07 |
sicelo | usual range? | 10:07 |
sicelo | thanks | 10:07 |
KotCzarny | 50+ usd is almost new quality | 10:07 |
sicelo | thanks. | 10:24 |
DocScrutinizer05 | sixwheeledbeast^: you might want to change "while true" to "while sleep 0.1" in ~beasttweaks. Needs bash! | 10:27 |
DocScrutinizer05 | totalizator: pondered luring the N900 magnet out of the grass with another ("huge") magnet? | 10:34 |
DocScrutinizer05 | sicelo: let me know which solution you came up with for the replacement magnet. I think cutting a tiny piece off a plastic fridge magnet might work | 10:36 |
totalizator | huge magnet, yes, that's something I carry around usually - kind of a lucky charm ;) | 10:44 |
KotCzarny | there are people NOT carrying HUGE magnet with them ALL the time? | 10:46 |
totalizator | ask Steve Wozniak https://gizmodo.com/5926598/the-amazing-contents-of-steve-wozniaks-travel-backpack | 10:48 |
KotCzarny | :) | 10:50 |
KotCzarny | mine has 2 cellphones, slim power bank, e-ink e-reader and usb 3g modem | 10:51 |
sicelo | i have one of those magnetic name tag things somewhere. hope the magnet is strong enough | 10:51 |
KotCzarny | and a swissbit | 10:51 |
KotCzarny | also microusb cable (for powerbank) | 10:51 |
KotCzarny | atm also usb-uasp (sata adapter) | 10:52 |
KotCzarny | also pendrive and a mirror | 10:52 |
totalizator | I carry an usb3 external ssd with Linux as I'm too paranoid to leave it at work :E | 10:55 |
KotCzarny | grab some dedi box (or setup one at home) ? | 10:56 |
totalizator | easier that carrying the laptop plus it's perfectly bootable on any pc | 10:56 |
KotCzarny | sysarm has a nice offer | 10:56 |
KotCzarny | ah, for that | 10:56 |
totalizator | dedi box? | 10:57 |
KotCzarny | as opposed to vps | 10:58 |
DocScrutinizer05 | totalizator: there's more magnets around that you might think, usually | 11:27 |
DocScrutinizer05 | e.g. headphones | 11:28 |
sixwheeledbeast^ | keyboards slider? hard drives, microwaves | 11:34 |
sixwheeledbeast^ | or is this a magnet to fit in as a replacement? | 11:35 |
sixwheeledbeast^ | ~logs | 11:36 |
infobot | All conversations are logged to http://infobot.rikers.org/%23maemo/ Lines starting with spaces are not logged. Logs are updated daily. http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/ | 11:36 |
KotCzarny | with tlc ssd, old magnetic hdds are just too clunky | 11:36 |
KotCzarny | (comparing prices) | 11:36 |
sixwheeledbeast^ | I still prefer HDD for storage | 11:38 |
KotCzarny | for long time storage, yeah. as a portable storage ssd is just fine | 11:39 |
sixwheeledbeast^ | I like to shred things SSD dont like that | 11:39 |
KotCzarny | um, trim? | 11:40 |
totalizator | ssds tend to shred themseves | 11:40 |
KotCzarny | :) | 11:40 |
sixwheeledbeast^ | I agree portable is better with no mechanical components to damage. | 11:42 |
KotCzarny | lighter too | 11:42 |
KotCzarny | and smaller if you happen to have msata/m.2 enclosure | 11:43 |
sixwheeledbeast^ | I suppose you could manually trim the drive instead of shred. | 11:49 |
sixwheeledbeast^ | Otherwise data is there until your trim cycle, normally a cron job every week | 11:49 |
KotCzarny | you shred automatically? | 11:50 |
sixwheeledbeast^ | some files from the cli | 11:51 |
KotCzarny | also, since many ssds are encrypted internally now, destroying controller is enough | 11:51 |
jonwil | hi | 12:07 |
KotCzarny | hello | 12:09 |
Vajb | about n900 profiles. I usually want to keep my phone on silent profile, but at day time I like it to vibrate, but at night time this is not acceptable. Do we have a script to change this automagically? | 12:53 |
jonwil | Anything interesting happening in the world of N900 lately? | 12:54 |
KotCzarny | jonwil: most of the fun happens in #maemo-leste | 12:54 |
jonwil | ok :) | 12:54 |
sunshavi | KotCzarny: Do You use mutt on the n900? | 13:46 |
KotCzarny | nope, i only use web interface for mail | 13:47 |
KotCzarny | both yahoo and gmail have legacy fallbacks | 13:47 |
sixwheeledbeast^ | ~phonecontrol | 13:47 |
infobot | rumour has it, phonecontrol is http://wiki.maemo.org/Phone_control | 13:48 |
sixwheeledbeast^ | ^ Vajb | 13:48 |
sunshavi | I am using mutt on n900 (for reading with mbsync aka isync). In the future I would try to compile msmtp for also writting email on the device | 13:49 |
Vajb | sixwheeledbeast^: thx, I thought to ask if there is something ready to prevent iventing wheel, but I'll dig to it then. | 13:57 |
sixwheeledbeast^ | oh no i doubt | 13:58 |
sixwheeledbeast^ | Vajb: Just use alarmd? | 14:24 |
sixwheeledbeast^ | Alarmed | 14:24 |
sixwheeledbeast^ | That's how i do most stuff like that | 14:25 |
Maxdamantus | Hm. I have an evil plan to continue using Opera Mobile with sites requiring newer versions of TLS. | 14:39 |
Maxdamantus | It seems to use SNI, so I should be able to make a MITM server that generates appropriate certificates on the fly, signed by my own CA certificate which can be added as a root. | 14:40 |
Maxdamantus | and can probably just do something like override `connect` with LD_PRELOAD | 14:41 |
Maxdamantus | and of course, the proxy server will do hostname validation, so there's no loss of security. | 14:43 |
Maxdamantus | I guess this is what "mitmproxy" does, but that's written in Python, so would prefer not to run that on the N900. | 14:45 |
DocScrutinizer05 | indeed alarmed comes with this function built in | 15:25 |
sixwheeledbeast^ | Did anyone get QML browser working with TLS? I thought that was a thing, I need to try. | 15:30 |
sicelo | sunshavi: i do use mutt on N900. any reason for asking? | 17:00 |
sunshavi | sicelo: Hi. Yeah. Do You send email with msmtp? | 17:14 |
sicelo | i don't use msmtp. any advantages over using mutt's existing smtp 'client'? | 17:18 |
sunshavi | less setup probably. support for multiple accounts also | 17:21 |
sunshavi | mutt used just as MUA | 17:22 |
sicelo | ymmv | 17:22 |
sicelo | works fine for me to send and retrieve mail from Google & Outlook.com (where I use it) | 17:23 |
sunshavi | nice. Probably I am going to compile msmtp and transfer my setup as it is. then I would have isync as MDA mutt as MUA and msmtp MTA | 17:26 |
Vajb | hmm did someone patch pidgin-libnotify to fix vibra issue? Or is there a version which works with maemo? Newer than 14.2-3 | 19:39 |
sixwheeledbeast^ | gidzzz did some pidgin stuff maybe search on tmo? | 19:56 |
Vajb | ok thx | 20:07 |
Vajb | hmm it was facebook plugin | 20:17 |
Vajb | hmm it seems that telegram-purple doesn't support supergroups | 21:21 |
Vajb | oh well I'll live | 21:21 |
sicelo | Vajb: i use telegram-cli now :) | 21:44 |
Vajb | oh. Does it support supergroups? | 21:48 |
sicelo | what's a supergroup btw | 22:08 |
Vajb | well I don't know exact definition, but it is a group that can have lots of members | 22:13 |
Vajb | if I try to open it in pidgin I get message "71: rpc_call_fail: user_already_participant | 22:15 |
Vajb | " | 22:15 |
sicelo | if there's any free-access supergroup you know, i can test for you | 22:15 |
Vajb | if I try to open it in pidgin I get message "71: rpc_call_fail 400: user_already_participant" | 22:15 |
Vajb | I know only this one im using and it is not open :/ | 22:16 |
sicelo | :-) | 22:16 |
sicelo | russian spies? | 22:16 |
sicelo | anyway, you can find the package on tmo and test for yourself. or, build it on pc | 22:18 |
Vajb | yeah I did some digging of a topic | 22:19 |
Vajb | I'll see what I do, but thx :) | 22:20 |
sicelo | it's cli, so it has its limitations, but i never went back to pidgin since i got it. | 22:23 |
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