libera/#maemo/ Saturday, 2018-11-03

AnaskoWhen I try to join freenode channels from Nokia N900's Conversations, I get "You have left this group." message. What does it mean?13:54
AnaskoAnd yes, authentication with NickServ goes through fine, and ChanServ sends me "welcome to channel" message. But I can neither send messages to channel, nor watch messages being sent by others.13:56
AnaskoAs you can see above, Wikiwide has joined #maemo, and then has left immediately. What could be causing that?13:56
AnaskoDoesn't help that freenode's webchat is not open-able on N900 - I had to use a laptop for that - because it requires re-captcha, and Google in its infinite wisdom doesn't support "old" web browsers (not even Fennec 17)13:57
KotCzarnyafair n900 supports irc just fine13:58
KotCzarnygrab xchat/hexchat13:59
KotCzarnyand forget about those clunky interfaces13:59
siceloand as we have keyboard, even irssi works good.14:01
KotCzarnyyeah, but text apps might be too hard for someone that needs web rowser for irc14:02
AnaskoI would prefer to use Conversations, not web browser, for IRC, but Conversations seems to be stuck somewhere. And the only instance I could find of this particular text of error was in source code repository of locale pack for the application. As if no user ever encountered this error.14:03
siceloAnasko: i would use wireshark to see what happens and when.14:04
Anaskowireshark ? how?14:06
* Anasko is almost sure that it is somehow related to the giant size of el-v1.db - about 74MB14:07
siceloah. of course that's considered a big no-no (huge el-v1.db)14:08
AnaskoTheoretically, sqlite3 databases can reach TB in size. Practically, program decides for unfathomable reason to load the whole file into RAM, which limits it, a lot.14:10
KotCzarnyjust install xchat14:10
AnaskoDoes it support back-log?14:11
KotCzarnyas long you are connected it can log14:12
KotCzarnyobviously14:13
KotCzarnyotherwise see topic for channel logs14:13
AnaskoWhat file format does it use for logging?14:14
KotCzarnymost likely txt14:14
AnaskoAnd what's the difference between irssi, xchat and hexchat (and any alternatives) on Nokia N900?14:15
KotCzarny*xchact has gui14:15
KotCzarnyirssi runs in text terminal14:15
Anaskoxchat is hildon-ised, to an extent, so there is that14:19
Anaskobetter xchat than irssi, irggu, or communi14:22
AnaskoI dislike X-Chat already. Tiny menus are as bad as Navit-gtk.14:49
AnaskoColours are atrocious by default.14:50
siceloi think it also doesn't do ssl, at leant on fremantle.14:50
sicelo*least14:50
siceloDoc had some config that made xchat a bit more bearable. maybe you can try it14:51
sicelo~jr-tools14:51
infobotextra, extra, read all about it, jrtools is http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Joerg_rw/tools14:51
AnaskoAuto-capitalisation doesn't work at all, when typing messages. But it auto-capitalises just fine when entering NickServ password into GUI.14:51
sicelosomewhere in that link14:51
AnaskoLater, later. What's the problem with SSL? I don't expect it was fixed easily by a custom config?14:52
sicelono. that one not fixed, of course14:53
AnaskoAnd I don't think I see anything in X-Chat about specifying port for connection - it just auto-magics 9999 for SSL and 6667 for non-SSL?14:53
Anaskoand I do not see how to close user_'s server tab - disconnect from server, sure, but how do I close server tab?14:54
* sicelo hasn't used xchat in ages ... can't remember specifics now14:54
Anaskoin short, if x-chat was hildon-ised, and re-written to be front-end for telepathy plug-ins (instead of just IRC client), it could be a good replacement for Conversations.14:55
AnaskoanAnd now message input box is white on white.15:13
AnaskoTest. Yes, now it is blue on white. No idea why.15:24
AnaskoAndrewX192, I did manage to close tab.15:24
Anaskosorry for automatic nick complete.15:24
Anaskoanas, test.15:25
AnaskoAnasko, test.15:25
AnaskoYes, it doesn't preview auto-complete of nick name until after I hit Enter.15:25
DocScrutinizer05huh?15:36
DocScrutinizer05http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Joerg_rw15:38
DocScrutinizer05http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Joerg_rw/xchat/15:39
DocScrutinizer05to close tab: press close button left lower. to nick-expand I mapped shift-space15:40
AnaskoClose button: right lower? Mapped shift-space in global keyboard layout file to Tab?15:40
AnaskoThank you for the link. I am currently trying to figure out why Message Input box has Foreground colour working from X-Chat colour settings, but background colour white (contrary to X-Chat's setting of black)15:42
AnaskoNotify.sh sounds useful, even though I do not use haptic feedback much - doesn't help that Chat and Email are considered the same15:45
Anaskois there a zip somewhere, for easy download of all files listed?15:48
Anaskoinput box: use the text box font and colors. works in a weird way, if it works at all.15:51
Anaskoyes, background colour works only for channel scroll, not for input box.15:57
Anaskosee you later :-)15:58
AlexNoiseif you  think about it, it's quite amazing that m N810s battery still allows me to leave the device in wifi for days18:59
AlexNoiseand it's the original battery also  :D19:00
KotCzarnythat's the key point19:00
KotCzarnyreplace with some chinese fake and see how long it lives19:00
AlexNoiseand it still loads up basic websites with opera19:01
AlexNoiseah, I still love  this thing19:01
KotCzarnydo you use it for audio play?19:03
AlexNoisesearching for a purpose for it.. right now it's a weather client, and a desk decoration19:04
KotCzarnyinstall oscp and turn it into audio center/internet radio19:04
KotCzarny:)19:04
AlexNoisehmm, not a bad idea19:05
siceloKotCzarny: you've seen mps-youutube .. not o bring feature creep into oscp, but perhaps .. :)19:07
KotCzarnyyoutube requires yt-dl19:07
KotCzarnybut i'm toying with tidal client19:07
sicelowhat's tidal?19:08
KotCzarny(with proper account it means milions of flac files)19:08
sicelooh nice19:08
AlexNoisehttps://www.flickr.com/photos/sansphoto/albums/7215770131850598119:10
AlexNoiselet me share this19:11
AlexNoisemy porn collection19:11
* sicelo clicks, hoping microb will open19:11
KotCzarnyyou should move your pr0n to imgur19:12
KotCzarnyWe're having some trouble displaying this album at the moment. Please try again.19:13
KotCzarnythat's why internet is so fucked up nowadays19:13
KotCzarnyno fallback to no-js browsing19:13
AlexNoisehow so19:13
AlexNoisenow that's true19:14
siceloat least opera-mobile seems to open it.19:14
sicelovery nice collection!19:15
AlexNoisety :>19:16

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