libera/#maemo/ Wednesday, 2019-01-23

Enrico_MenottiHello. Today I tried to connect my N900 to my BMW via bluetooth for making hands-free phone calls. I succeeded in connecting (after a few trials) and making a call with good quality, but when I hang up the BMW iDrive system hangs as well... the call is closed properly, but iDrive doesn't exit from the call mode, and eventually, after a couple of minutes, reboots (!).00:00
Enrico_MenottiWith my gf smartphone, a Wiko Jerry, I never encountered any problem.00:00
Enrico_MenottiDid anybody face a similar issue? Once I heard from freemangordon that he owns a BMW as well.00:01
Enrico_MenottiOr well, if nobody encountered this, however do you have any idea on how to troubleshoot?01:04
siceloEnrico_Menotti: there were definitely lots of issues with N900 bluetooth performance. search tmo for bmw related posts. it seems some worked, some didn't06:58
sicelobug #8246 has some hints on troubleshooting07:00
siceloi was going to add, but i see it's hinted in the last comment of that bug, that while N900 definitely has issues, it doesn't mean the BMW software is 'innocent' either07:03
sicelowhat gets rebooted? N900, or BMW?07:05
Enrico_MenottiBMW07:27
Vajbengine reboots while driving :p07:49
Enrico_MenottiNot the engine, just the iDrive. :P07:59
Enrico_Menotti(With the car audio.)07:59
siceloyes, i mean't that one :-P08:08
siceloanyway,sounds like it also has its own bugs - surely it shouldn't reboot when a 'buggy' device connects to it08:09
freemangordonEnrico_Menotti: Bluetooth on my F22 (not sure about the version, however it should be the latest or close to that) has issues as well when n900 is connected to it. However it doesn't look like n900 is to blame.08:23
freemangordonnever seen it rebooting though08:24
Enrico_MenottiF30 2012 here. I will try to report here the iDrive version.08:24
freemangordonthe major issue I have with it is that when music plays and I receive a phone call, I cannot resume the music playback after call is completed, no matter what I do08:24
freemangordonit is not iDriver version that matters08:25
Enrico_MenottiYeah, it's what happens to me, but in the end the iDrive reboots and music starts again.08:25
Enrico_MenottiWhy not?08:25
freemangordonmultimedia has its own version, at least in my car08:25
Enrico_MenottiAh.08:25
Enrico_MenottiDon't know where to find it.08:26
freemangordonnot sure where it was burried in the menus, sorry08:26
freemangordondoes your car support SW upgrade through USB?08:26
Enrico_MenottiMaybe what reboots is just the multimedia. In any case, after completing the phone call I have no audio, I'm able to navigate on the car's screen, but after a while the screen shuts down, the BMW logo appears, music is back, and a bit later the multimedia is back.08:27
Enrico_Menotti(Re-connecting the phone via bt.)08:27
freemangordonif yes, you may check https://www.bmw.com/en/footer/software-updates.html if there is a newer version for your car08:28
freemangordonotherwise, go to BMW dealer to check if there is a newer version of the SW08:28
Enrico_MenottiI think my car supports sw upgrade. I found lots of things about its OS, but didn't want to try messing with it yet, since I don't want to run the risk of being left on my own feet. :P08:28
freemangordongo to a dealer, they will upgrade the software08:29
Enrico_MenottiIn any case, since with my gf smartphone I have no pb, I think there's same guilt also on the N900 side.08:29
freemangordonno, it is BMW (or rather the company that made multimedia part) to blame08:30
freemangordonmy n900 has no issues at all with my other car (year 2015 seat ibiza)08:31
Enrico_MenottiBut why with the Wiko Jerry it works?08:31
freemangordonno idea, however, trust me on that one, BT in BMW multimedia is buggy08:32
Enrico_MenottiThat's for sure, since it reboots...08:32
freemangordonmhm08:32
freemangordonso, why n900 triggers a bug... does it matter?08:33
freemangordonanyway you can;t fix it, your only chance is upgraded SW in the car. And since you don;t want to risk screwing it, just go to a BMW dealer to upgrade the car SW.08:34
freemangordonthat's your best bet08:34
freemangordonhave to run, bye08:34
Enrico_MenottiOk, thanks a lot. Have a nice day.08:35
Vajbabout playback after call ends. I have bluetooth headet and sometimes after a call it plays about a second then pauses for maybe ten seconds and after that starts playing normally08:38
Vajbheadset*08:38
sicelonice cars both of you :)08:41
Enrico_Menotti:(08:42
WikiwideI am currently way too interested in eInk+Amoled combination. So, looking at... http://gearburn.com/2017/04/3-smartphones-that-feature-e-ink-displays/ Is any of the devices likely to run Maemo Leste? I don't expect so, but I do not know much about CPU/GPU compatibility with...12:31
WikiwideeInk tablet, with Wacom stylus... https://phoneradar.com/remarkable-e-ink-paper-tablet-could-replace-your-notebooks-sketchbooks-printouts/ Could it run Maemo Leste?12:38
WikiwideThis one is fascinating, as well - 800x480 3.5in TFT display... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyocera_Echo12:41
WikiwideThis one is interesting, as well https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barnes_%26_Noble_Nook_1st_Edition 667MHz ARMv6? Sounds ancient. Like Maemo 4?12:54
Wikiwide3.5in 480x144 has interesting proportions, 10:3?12:56
jogasomewhat unrelated but I heard that waveshare released a bit bigger display (that you can fairly easily interface with stuff) https://www.waveshare.com/wiki/9.7inch_e-Paper_HAT which has a decent refresh times even along with decent resolution etc... dunno anything else about it though12:58
WikiwideHat, intended to be used with Raspberry Pi?12:59
jogayeah, that one is at least, you can get the panel itself too if you wan't to drive it yourself12:59
WikiwideIs there any Raspberry Pi which is not HDMI-compatible? Because I happen to dislike HDMI12:59
jogathe hat wouldn't use HDMI13:00
WikiwideHmm, thank you :-)  I might end up assembling a prototype tablet myself, though I would have preferred finding a ready-to-go device.13:01
joga(the only hdmi e-ink "displays" I've seen are the very expensive tablet things that happen to support using them as an external display)13:01
joga(plus even more expensive standalone displays)13:01
WikiwideI just don't want to pay Raspberry to pay HDMI for permission to use HDMI connector on Raspberry Pi.13:02
jogatough ;)13:02
jogathere are alternatives surely, the rpi is just the most popular so usually less hassle to implement stuff13:03
WikiwideThere is an open-source Allwinner board somewhere, Maemo Leste can run on it? Just, I would have to assemble a device manually, finding parts and such for it :-/13:04
bencohwikiwide really need a way to stay connected to irc.... :(13:44
bencohfor the record, there is maemo-leste work ongoing on some allwinner board/tablet13:44
Vajbsecond time when my device didn't accept any input after issuing pnatd. Im afraid this device is soon to be dead14:39
sicelowhat do you mean Vajb20:12
sixwheeledbeastbencoh: Wikiwide has other accounts and may pick up the conversation later due to timezones.20:13
DocScrutinizer05did anybody mention the ThreadX MarvelWiFi exploit already?20:19
DocScrutinizer05>>“This vulnerability can be triggered without user interaction during the scanning for available networks. This procedure is launched every 5 minutes regardless of a device being connected to some Wi-Fi network or not. That’s why this bug is so cool and provides an opportunity to exploit devices literally with zero-click interaction at any state of wireless connection (even when a device isn’t connected to any network).”<<20:20
DocScrutinizer05https://securityboulevard.com/2019/01/wi-fi-chip-firmware-flaws-enable-over-the-air-hacking/20:22
Vajbsicelo: I meant that when I sign in as root and write "pnatd" it opens pnatd console and I cant type for example "AT+CFUN...". Now it has been like pnatd console opens, but I can't write anything in it.21:48
DocScrutinizer05Vajb: you probably first need to make sure the cellmo is actually powered up. it prolly won't be e.g. in airplane mode23:23
DocScrutinizer05I could imagine it's also shut off completely when you got no SIM inserted and not using GPS23:24
DocScrutinizer05GPS actually is a good way to check for cellmo basic functionality23:25

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