libera/#maemo/ Wednesday, 2019-01-30

brolin_empeyDocScrutinizer05: Writing on a road/path/sidewalk/… can be considered a non-paged book?05:35
OksanaMotorised miniaturised Torah scrolls?.. Would require a very flexible and durable screen for displaying e-books. And it's paginated, still, even in scroll form ;-)13:02
OksanaBook of Esther and Joshua Roll are paginated as well?.. Vertical, non-paginated rolls are more likely to be used for shorter documents?..13:04
OksanaShorter or longer, doesn't matter for computer display. Still, it would have to be a very flexible durable display...13:05
KotCzarnyit's mixing up tech13:06
KotCzarnyyou can scroll data on eink13:06
KotCzarny(slower or faster but still)13:06
KotCzarnyno need to physically move anything if you have electronic display13:06
OksanaQuestion is, if dislay is a fixed rectangle, then it's intuitive for it to be paginated, if only because scrolling non-paginated text on e-ink display is going to be laggy.13:08
KotCzarnycurrently eink is quite speedy13:08
OksanaIf display is a roll, then human can scroll down the non-paginated text physically, while the part of display hidden from user updates itself.13:09
buZzas long as it isnt a >1 color display ;)13:09
buZzthose 2 color einks take -forever- to refresh13:09
KotCzarnybuzz, i'm not talking about any specific tech, but generic idea of fixed medium vs dynamic display13:10
OksanaAnd I cannot wait for full-colour e-ink displays... Too impatient.13:10
buZzah ok, dont call it eink then ;)13:10
KotCzarnyoksana: they are here already13:10
KotCzarnyjust far from perfect13:10
* KotCzarny already used mirasol for quite few years13:11
OksanaYes, I am mixing things up. Like, scrolling physically a digital display.13:11
KotCzarnyit even plays youtube @10fps13:11
KotCzarnyunfortunatelly red is a bit washed out, and android/soc sucks a lot of battery anyway13:12
KotCzarnyreadability in full sun is good tho13:12
OksanaYes, readability in full sun is good for e-ink. And for amoled, but that's power-hungry?13:19
KotCzarnyyes13:19
OksanaBut amoled looks far better than e-ink? Colourful, contrastful...13:20
KotCzarnyyes13:20
KotCzarnysame for ips13:20
KotCzarnyalso, lcd(amoled, ips, tn) is more stressfull to the eyes13:21
Oksanapower-hungry as well ^13:21
KotCzarnyfor books and longer reading last argument is important13:21
OksanaAny scientific links on studies that show that? Because I understand theory, but I would like empirical evidence as well13:22
KotCzarnyotherwise headache, eyestrain can occur13:22
KotCzarnyyes. been there, done that, had eye/headaches.13:22
OksanaAnd office workers all use LCD/whatever computer monitors, no e-ink computer monitors ;-)13:23
KotCzarnyas for retina burnout, any ultraviolet light study should suffice13:23
* Oksana should get sunglasses/computerGlasses, UV is strong here13:23
KotCzarnywith reflected light (which is usually sun filtered through atmosphere) it's natural for us13:24
KotCzarnyremember that uv can also enter eye sideways and make your eye more foggy13:24
OksanaAustralia's UV is stronger than elsewhere, if only because of ozone hole?13:24
KotCzarnymore sun probably in general13:25
KotCzarnyfewer cloud/humidity13:25
OksanaAnd I want glasses that cover all angles, like some sunglasses do - so that my eyes do not see anything outside frames13:25
OksanaLet's hope the computer is still switched on and accessible tomorrow. Because I am transferring IceChat logs out of it.13:30
DocScrutinizer05~wiki ozone_hole13:31
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DocScrutinizer05prolly lost relevance?13:36

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