brolin_empey | DocScrutinizer05: Writing on a road/path/sidewalk/… can be considered a non-paged book? | 05:35 |
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Oksana | Motorised miniaturised Torah scrolls?.. Would require a very flexible and durable screen for displaying e-books. And it's paginated, still, even in scroll form ;-) | 13:02 |
Oksana | Book of Esther and Joshua Roll are paginated as well?.. Vertical, non-paginated rolls are more likely to be used for shorter documents?.. | 13:04 |
Oksana | Shorter or longer, doesn't matter for computer display. Still, it would have to be a very flexible durable display... | 13:05 |
KotCzarny | it's mixing up tech | 13:06 |
KotCzarny | you can scroll data on eink | 13:06 |
KotCzarny | (slower or faster but still) | 13:06 |
KotCzarny | no need to physically move anything if you have electronic display | 13:06 |
Oksana | Question is, if dislay is a fixed rectangle, then it's intuitive for it to be paginated, if only because scrolling non-paginated text on e-ink display is going to be laggy. | 13:08 |
KotCzarny | currently eink is quite speedy | 13:08 |
Oksana | If display is a roll, then human can scroll down the non-paginated text physically, while the part of display hidden from user updates itself. | 13:09 |
buZz | as long as it isnt a >1 color display ;) | 13:09 |
buZz | those 2 color einks take -forever- to refresh | 13:09 |
KotCzarny | buzz, i'm not talking about any specific tech, but generic idea of fixed medium vs dynamic display | 13:10 |
Oksana | And I cannot wait for full-colour e-ink displays... Too impatient. | 13:10 |
buZz | ah ok, dont call it eink then ;) | 13:10 |
KotCzarny | oksana: they are here already | 13:10 |
KotCzarny | just far from perfect | 13:10 |
* KotCzarny already used mirasol for quite few years | 13:11 | |
Oksana | Yes, I am mixing things up. Like, scrolling physically a digital display. | 13:11 |
KotCzarny | it even plays youtube @10fps | 13:11 |
KotCzarny | unfortunatelly red is a bit washed out, and android/soc sucks a lot of battery anyway | 13:12 |
KotCzarny | readability in full sun is good tho | 13:12 |
Oksana | Yes, readability in full sun is good for e-ink. And for amoled, but that's power-hungry? | 13:19 |
KotCzarny | yes | 13:19 |
Oksana | But amoled looks far better than e-ink? Colourful, contrastful... | 13:20 |
KotCzarny | yes | 13:20 |
KotCzarny | same for ips | 13:20 |
KotCzarny | also, lcd(amoled, ips, tn) is more stressfull to the eyes | 13:21 |
Oksana | power-hungry as well ^ | 13:21 |
KotCzarny | for books and longer reading last argument is important | 13:21 |
Oksana | Any scientific links on studies that show that? Because I understand theory, but I would like empirical evidence as well | 13:22 |
KotCzarny | otherwise headache, eyestrain can occur | 13:22 |
KotCzarny | yes. been there, done that, had eye/headaches. | 13:22 |
Oksana | And office workers all use LCD/whatever computer monitors, no e-ink computer monitors ;-) | 13:23 |
KotCzarny | as for retina burnout, any ultraviolet light study should suffice | 13:23 |
* Oksana should get sunglasses/computerGlasses, UV is strong here | 13:23 | |
KotCzarny | with reflected light (which is usually sun filtered through atmosphere) it's natural for us | 13:24 |
KotCzarny | remember that uv can also enter eye sideways and make your eye more foggy | 13:24 |
Oksana | Australia's UV is stronger than elsewhere, if only because of ozone hole? | 13:24 |
KotCzarny | more sun probably in general | 13:25 |
KotCzarny | fewer cloud/humidity | 13:25 |
Oksana | And I want glasses that cover all angles, like some sunglasses do - so that my eyes do not see anything outside frames | 13:25 |
Oksana | Let's hope the computer is still switched on and accessible tomorrow. Because I am transferring IceChat logs out of it. | 13:30 |
DocScrutinizer05 | ~wiki ozone_hole | 13:31 |
infobot | At https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ozone_hole (URL), Wikipedia explains: "{{short description|Stratospheric phenomena of Earth}} {{Use mdy dates|date=May 2016}} {{Use American English|date=May 2016}} {{Other uses|Depletion (disambiguation)}} ozone hole ever recorded over the South Pole in September 2006]] {{external media | width = 210px | align = right | headerimage= | audio1 = ... | 13:31 |
DocScrutinizer05 | prolly lost relevance? | 13:36 |
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