libera/#maemo/ Thursday, 2019-02-28

Vajbso far I have found just one flaw from by restored backup. Devices security code has not changed.05:25
Maxdamantusiirc that's stored in flash.05:32
Maxdamantus(flash other than the filesystem, that is)05:38
Vajboh, that explains.06:11
Vajbdo you know any screen protectors that you could recommend fro n900?06:58
Vajbasking because I just used my last celly screen protector and it seems they are not made anymore.06:59
KotCzarnyvajb: i just use regular one that i cut down to size07:59
KotCzarny2usd/10pcs07:59
KotCzarny;)07:59
KotCzarnyso when it starts getting off i cut another07:59
Vajbhmm if I order protector for bigger screen I might get two from one :p08:03
Vajbcool idea08:03
KotCzarnyjust keep in mind the cut is best done with exacto knife, not scissors08:03
KotCzarnyso you wont bend the plastic08:03
KotCzarnyand cut corners a bit too08:04
KotCzarnyso they wont start peeling of that easily08:04
Vajbyou mean round corners?08:12
Vajbit sure feels starnge to have buttons which have some friction and labels on them :p08:13
VajbI just hope this is as stable hw wise08:13
KotCzarnyvajb: yeah, so you wont have a square but a square with little triangles cut off at the corners08:16
* Maxdamantus needs to get around to doing that.08:16
KotCzarnycutting them round would be best, but not exactly easy with exactly knife08:17
KotCzarny*exacto08:18
MaxdamantusPresumably easier with scissors.08:18
* Maxdamantus hasn't used exacto knifes much though.08:18
KotCzarnybut scissors bend the plastic08:18
KotCzarnywhich makes the foil not to stick well at that part08:19
Vajboh well. I seem to have been disconnected while phone was in my pocket...08:54
Vajbat least I have better screen :)08:54
KotCzarnyfor me switching to 2G helped08:55
KotCzarnyso far it only disconnected once, compared to few times a day on 3g08:55
KotCzarnyand not a single 'no sim'08:56
VajbI saw nothing odd either. Just saw from irc log.08:57
DocScrutinizer05powerkernel afaik uses BME-replacement by default09:01
DocScrutinizer05which is known to not really work with battery applet iirc09:01
DocScrutinizer05reboot during bootmenu is usually caused by nobody tickling watchdog, BM has a script doing that usually09:02
VajbDocScrutinizer05: this time problem is that bootmenu.item doesn't find BackupMenuLauncher.item. Moving that launcher file to /etc/bootmenu.d was only solution that worked for me.09:05
DocScrutinizer05Vajb: no clue, should be /usr/share/backupmenu/BackupMenuLauncher.item09:59
DocScrutinizer05https://pastebin.com/671CSC0010:00
sicelobme-replacement is a a separate install, not tied to PK.10:25
sixwheeledbeastYes. it has it's own repo.10:33
luke-jrcan i play pokemon go on n900?11:03
sixwheeledbeastios or andriod only. you would need to get apkenv working and have a google store account.11:08
KotCzarnyor vnc server?11:08
KotCzarnyalthough that would require passing gps coords somehow11:09
sixwheeledbeastin that case just play the "proper" game11:09
luke-jrI've put the "proper" games behind me11:10
luke-jrI also haven't powered on my N900 in over a year. :x11:11
sixwheeledbeasti think you can play the roms on n900, now I think about it.11:11
KotCzarnymy n900 is powered on since 200911:11
sixwheeledbeast^11:11
KotCzarnyas for gaming, gweled is my top1 app11:12
luke-jrI've migrated entirely to Pixel XL + GPD Win 211:12
sixwheeledbeast204811:12
KotCzarnyother fun games are gnurobbo and hex-a-hop11:12
sixwheeledbeastand thembloodyduck11:14
sixwheeledbeasts11:14
luke-jrdon't forget all the fun CVEs11:14
KotCzarnyyou dont get cves if you dont connect to the internet ;)11:15
luke-jrwhat is the N900 for if not that?11:15
KotCzarnyphone?11:15
KotCzarnyalso, pocket console11:15
KotCzarnyand pocket audio player11:16
KotCzarny(for me)11:16
KotCzarnydoubles as pendrive sometimes too11:16
siceloluke-jr: maemo-leste11:19
luke-jrsicelo: wat?11:20
luke-jrKotCzarny: phone and console require internet11:20
KotCzarnysure, but my audio player uses latest libav11:21
sicelothere's now Maemo Leste - based on Devuan. say bye bye to the CVEsYou may want to check it out11:22
KotCzarnyalso, phone uses gsm not internet to connect11:22
KotCzarnyand console is mostly ssh/telnet11:22
sixwheeledbeastI don't think my device is never not behind a firewall of some sort. I don't use mobile data.11:29
sixwheeledbeastWhat CVE's in particular anyway?11:31
siceloi don't think he's talking about specific ones, but that the OS has very old components that are known (or likely to) have a number of CVE's againsts them11:48
sixwheeledbeastI can only recall ssh. Some of the components are so old they where pre CVE11:55
sixwheeledbeasthttps on browser is an issue I admit11:55
Vajbsixwheeledbeast: your top scroere in 2048 is?12:10
VajbDocScrutinizer05: that's where it was, but backupmenu.item didn't find it from there. I quadruble checked that file path.12:11
sixwheeledbeastVajb: Maemo?12:11
Vajbyeah12:12
Vajbscore*12:12
sixwheeledbeastwok is a cool game too12:12
sixwheeledbeastI have no idea seems to have reset12:13
Vajbi like puzzles game pack12:13
Vajbsixwheeledbeast: it wont show your top unless you start new game in it12:13
sixwheeledbeastThat's embarrassing... 3328812:14
VajbI have score: 180596 and number: 8192 :p12:15
sixwheeledbeastDo note that Maemo 2048 is slightly easy than original version due to a small bug ;)12:15
VajbI felt a bit fooled after I got firs 4k number. It kinda rules the name12:15
KotCzarnyi have 330000+ in gweled :P12:15
Vajbyes, I know, but since this is channel named maemo, I don't care :p12:16
VajbI think I haven't played gweled12:17
KotCzarnynice timewaster12:17
KotCzarnymatch-312:17
Vajbbut I recently installed Rocks'n'diamonds12:17
brolin_empeyWTF?  Facebook is an “Android system app” on the stock OS on the LG G5 and cannot be uninstalled, at least not from the Google Play Store on Android?12:59
KotCzarnysupport google, it's good13:00
KotCzarnyclosed OS is next best thing under the moon13:00
brolin_empeyAt least I do not use Apple iOS, the Icon of Sin. :-P13:03
KotCzarnygoogle is heading straight to hell13:04
brolin_empeyIcon of Sin was a reference to Doom II: Hell on Earth in case you missed it.13:05
KotCzarnyi did.13:05
VajbI just love android's individual app settings. Can render facebook in its little bubble f you wish13:07
KotCzarnyit still runs in bg13:07
KotCzarnynot every android allows you to disable builtin apks13:07
brolin_empeyTyping idclev30 (id Software change level to 30) in Doom II will warp to MAP30: Icon of Sin.13:07
Vajbit does, but if it is blocked from every access it can't do much13:07
Vajboh didn't know it might be os version dependent feature13:08
VajbI use Lineage os13:08
luke-jrbrolin_empey: you can disable system apps13:10
luke-jrbrolin_empey: they can't be uninstalled because they're part of the ROM13:10
KotCzarnyluke-jr: not on every android13:10
luke-jron stock Android at least13:10
KotCzarnymost people have some samsung13:10
KotCzarnywhich allows disabling for some13:11
KotCzarnybut not for all13:11
KotCzarnyafair i had some that i would like to nuke, yet they were on 'dont touch' list13:11
brolin_empeyI do not want to replace the stock OS after my bad experience replacing the OS on my Galaxy Note 3, which still has strange effects from replacing the stock OS even after reverting to the stock OS.  I reverted to the stock OS because my CyanogenMod installation broke and could not be fixed.13:12
luke-jrthen ssh to it and use pm hide13:12
KotCzarnyno root, no fun13:13
luke-jrI'd love to use LineageOS on my Pixel XL, but AIUI Google will sabotage my phone if I do13:13
KotCzarnybut i treat rooting as a temporary workaround working thanks to holes in os13:13
KotCzarnywhich get closed, and target being closed os without user moddability13:14
sunshaviKotCzarny: Your chinese battery works fine with the battery applet?13:16
sunshaviKotCzarny: mine is not working battery applet does not show the level of charge13:17
sunshaviKotCzarny: and phone turns off unexpectedly without the battery applet noticing it13:17
KotCzarnysunshavi: maybe you can transplant the head of the battery13:17
KotCzarnybut best is to just buy polarcell or something13:18
brolin_empeyAll of the Pixel series has a difficult to remove battery if I recall correctly.  The LG G5 and V20 still have an easily removable battery but the G6 and V30 do not.13:18
sunshaviKotCzarny: polarcell works fine with battery applet then?13:18
KotCzarnysunshavi: many people use them without problems, so i assume: yes13:18
KotCzarnymine is 'mept-5800n maxximus extra power 1600mAh'13:19
KotCzarnybut i got it used as a part of some other n90013:19
KotCzarnyand dont know its history13:19
sunshaviKotCzarny: 'mept-5800n maxximus extra power 1600mAh' works fine with battery applet?13:19
KotCzarnysunshavi: yes, shows capacity, and in battery-eye other stats13:20
sicelosunshavi: stock battery applet?13:20
sunshavisicelo: yes13:20
KotCzarnyfun part it shows ~1240mAh13:20
KotCzarnywhich is way lower than stated '1600' ;)13:20
siceloi mean, not bme-replacement, for example?13:20
KotCzarnyso just buy polarcell and get real 1500mAh13:20
sunshaviguys. brb13:20
brolin_empeyAlso, the analog audio connector was removed from the Pixel series unless the Pixel 3 or a later model (changes too quickly, I lost track) readded it.13:22
brolin_empeyOn any form of Android, is it possible to set a limit on cellular data usage per application instead of only for all applications?  I want to install RescueTime for Android on my LG G5 but I removed RescueTime from my Galaxy Note 3 because RescueTime for Android transferred over 1 GB (!!!) over the cellular data network in one billing period when my quota is only 2 GB per billing period but I do not know if RescueTime transferred this much information14:22
brolin_empeybecause it got stuck because the minimum version of Android was increased from 4.4 or earlier to 5.0 while I was still using it but my Galaxy Note 3 is still stuck on 4.4 thanks to Samsung, which is part of my reason for switching to the LG G5 running Android OS 8.14:22
brolin_empeyI mean billing period for cellular service, which is one month but not a calendar month.  My billing period for RescueTime is one year but not a calendar year.14:24
brolin_empeyDoes Apple omit a “delete to the right” key from some of their hardware keyboards for left-to-right languages because the OS has a modifier key for the Backspace/“delete to the left” key to delete to the right instead of to the left?  I mean does Mac OS X have such a modifier?  It occurs to me that such a modifier may be why Apple omits this key from some keyboards.14:51
brolin_empeyThe Commodore 64 keyboard does not even have dedicated arrow keys for all four directions but the Commodore 128 keyboard does.14:53
siceloyou write English-Greek sometimes :p15:18
sicelo... RescueTime for Android transferred over 1 GB ... but I do not know if RescueTime transferred this much information ... one month but not a calendar month ... one year but not a calendar year15:19
siceloi admit it can be understood after a while15:19
DocScrutinizer05Vajb: bootmenu and vackupmenu are very simple and sgellscript-based. can't be hard to check each single aspect and detail19:08
DocScrutinizer05backupmenu19:08
DocScrutinizer05https://pastebin.com/NCksYSQy19:16
VajbDocScrutinizer05: I went even further and took md5sum against each file I considered part of it and they were equal with my other device. Only difference being that in other device it works as expected and with other it does not.21:54
VajbAnd in my freshly flashed device it worked too, but not in the restored backup. So something is off in my setup, but it does not matter since now I know how to circle that problem.21:55
DocScrutinizer05you're aware the backup is just a tarball and you may restore selectively?23:25
DocScrutinizer05also never restore a backup taken under a different kernel, unless you selectively exclude kernel modules from restoring23:26
Vajbyes I know that, but I since I don't know what causes this behaviour I have no idea what to exclude.23:32
Vajbhmm too many I's. Looks like past bed time :)23:33

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