| timeless | DocScrutinizer05: hey, i'm having trouble with apt pinning, can you help me figure out what i've done wrong? | 00:24 |
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| timeless | https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/DDXHiGEz/ | 00:25 |
| timeless | # apt policy tomcat7 https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/PDfWCxcV/ | 00:25 |
| timeless | my goal is for one of the lines in xenial-security / xenial-updates / xenial to have a score of 500 | 00:26 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | timeless: sorry, apt illiterate here | 03:47 |
| sixwheeledbeast | apt-cache policy tomcat7? Can see anything obvious but I normally use apt-mark hold foo over pinning. | 09:34 |
| sixwheeledbeast | s/Can/Can't/ | 09:34 |
| infobot | sixwheeledbeast meant: apt-cache policy tomcat7? Can't see anything obvious but I normally use apt-mark hold foo over pinning. | 09:34 |
| Wikiwide | Very nice: https://www.tctmagazine.com/3d-printing-news/nano-dimension-technologies-successfully-prints-pcbs-dragonfly-2020/ Not particularly repairable (unless you happen to have such a 3D printer readily available), but then, replacing a chip isn't particularly easy either way. | 13:33 |
| dreamer | g36 | 16:03 |
| dreamer | urg | 16:03 |
| timeless | DocScrutinizer05: no worries | 17:17 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | the adverse effects of using a highly intuitive GUI tool for software-, user-, service- management, | 21:15 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | no incentive to learn the cmdline tools | 21:16 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I got no idea about useradd and friends, vim, apt/rpm, systemd... | 21:17 |
| sixwheeledbeast | vim? | 21:19 |
| sixwheeledbeast | systemd makes zero sense to me anyway | 21:20 |
| KotCzarny | fun observation, my device lost network today,once | 21:26 |
| KotCzarny | after i connected it to computer via usb cable for charging | 21:27 |
| sicelo | mmm, so skype for web no longer supports FF | 21:39 |
| sicelo | not that it matters too much but, for those odd moments i needed to use skype, this helped. i'm not abou to start using chrom(ium) | 21:40 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | sixwheeledbeast: vi(m), as I use true GUI "WYSIWYG" editors, like mcedit, kate, openoffice, even nano | 22:28 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | systemd actually makes zero sense to me too. I hardly know how to stop or start a service | 22:30 |
| sixwheeledbeast | I like vi, but I do admit sometimes you can't beat a GUI text editor. gedit (pluma) here, nice features like syntax highlighting help. | 22:31 |
| sixwheeledbeast | I agree. upstart made sense, "stop foo" "start bar". I believe systemd is "systemctl start foo" | 22:33 |
| sixwheeledbeast | As for making services I have no idea. Something about "units" and targets | 22:36 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | that bad thing: literally every time I need a `systemctl stop foo` it takes me 15 to 30 minutes to find out about the systemd command to list the names of valid services to start/stop. and when I'm not instantly certain about the right name from mere looking at it, it takes me another 1 or 2 hours to figure which file and where to look at, to gather some details about what that service named "foo" actually does | 22:38 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | no `ls -l /etc/init.d`, no `grep -r "nutmon" /etc/init.d` | 22:43 |
| sixwheeledbeast | "systemctl list-dependencies --all" ? like 25k lines of confusing dependency trees | 22:45 |
| sixwheeledbeast | terminals aren't designed to display this type of tree data. | 22:47 |
| sixwheeledbeast | As for finding things in journalctl, meh. Bring back tail -f foo file | 22:49 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | 25k? 37k!!! | 22:51 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ROTFL *cry* | 22:52 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | luckily I still run syslog on my system, so fuck journalctl | 22:53 |
| sicelo | debian, with systemd/journalctl, still has tail -f /var/log/syslog, etc., by default | 23:18 |
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