libera/#maemo/ Tuesday, 2019-03-12

WizzupKotCzarny: https://maemo-leste.github.io/maemo-leste-eight-update-january-february-2019.html01:40
brolin_empeyIs it technically possible to make a USB combination cable with a full-size Type A plug on one end and both a Type C plug and a microUSB plug on the other end?  If yes then is it feasible to productise such a cable?  Apparently StarTech does not offer such a cable even though I have bought and use their full-size USB Type A plug to microUSB plug/miniUSB plug combination cable.  StarTech does make a combination cable with a full-size USB Type A plug on one05:36
brolin_empeyend and a microUSB plug on the other end with adapters attached to the end of the cable to convert the microUSB plug to an Apple Lightning plug or a USB Type C plug but this cable costs around 25 CAD each so I have only two and you have to manually connect and disconnect things on the end of the cable;  the microUSB/miniUSB combination cable has both the microUSB and miniUSB plugs on a rigid T-shaped part on the end of the cable so nothing has to be manually05:36
brolin_empey connected and disconnected on the cable.05:36
VajbI have one cable which has three wires coming from usb a05:39
Vajbthey have micro usb, lightning? (that apple thing which doesn't care which way it is entered) and samsung tablet plug05:41
Vajbit came with powerbank05:41
brolin_empeyI know I can buy microUSB↔USB Type C adapters.  I already have some but they are small and easy to lose because they are not permanently attached to a cable.05:42
Vajbmaybe look from ebay for such cable05:43
brolin_empeyVajb: Yes, eBay is the ultimate dollar store.05:44
Vajbit has never failed to amaze me with its stock...05:47
DocScrutinizer05brolin_empey: >>both a Type C plug and a microUSB plug on the other end<< would you like the USB-C negotiates 24V VBUS getting fed to the micro-USB plug?06:55
DocScrutinizer05surefire device killer cable06:55
brolin_empeyDocScrutinizer05: I do not know a lot about USB Type C because I have little experience with it so far.  I asked about the possibility and feasibility of creating such a cable because I thought that someone like you in this channel would know more than me about the involved hardware/technology.07:01
DocScrutinizer05brolin_empey: it's feasible but stringly deprecated since it's dangerous07:09
DocScrutinizer05strongly07:09
DocScrutinizer05you could connect a usb2 peripheral to the micro-plug while on C plug another device negotiated VBZS=9, 12, even 24V07:10
DocScrutinizer05VBUS*07:11
DocScrutinizer05all clear?07:11
brolin_empeyDocScrutinizer05: OK, thank you for your knowledgeable answer.07:11
DocScrutinizer05yw :-)07:11
Vajboh, they have different voltage07:12
DocScrutinizer05usb3 (C) _can: negotiate higher supply voltages, yes07:13
DocScrutinizer05one of the "big assets" of USB307:14
DocScrutinizer05fast charging07:14
DocScrutinizer05even of tablets / laptops07:14
DocScrutinizer0524V  iirc 2A  = ~50W07:15
DocScrutinizer05vs 5V@1.5A = 7.5W07:15
DocScrutinizer05brolin_empey: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB_hardware#PD07:20
DocScrutinizer0520V@5A = 100W07:20
DocScrutinizer05Vajb: brolin_empey: ^^^ needs special chargers  which funny enough come with USB-A-F receptacle(s)07:25
DocScrutinizer05datasheet for USB-C *charger chip*(!!!):  117 pages07:34
DocScrutinizer05http://www.ti.com/lit/ds/symlink/tps65982.pdf07:52
sixwheeledbeastYer, you have to increase the voltage to transfer the same amount of energy via such small a conductor.11:25
sixwheeledbeastP=I*V   24Vdc @ 2A = 48W11:27
Maxdamantuswhen do we touch, when do we kiss?11:30
sixwheeledbeastIt's SELV not HV...16:42
AlexNoiseevening23:22

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