libera/#maemo/ Sunday, 2019-11-17

Wikiwidehomefs: 0b free. Why???07:03
dattelfischHello, does anyone grabbed these files (https://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=81865&page=32) or has a compatible Moslo for RM-680?12:53
dattelfischAlso anything according an old N950 (< HW0322) would be extremely useful12:54
WikiwideIt is quite mysterious that I have one /usr/lib/libz.so.1.2.3 on my device. Side by side with official zlib1g 1.2.713:13
brolin_empeyOksana: I do not know if it is packaged for Maemo but ncdu (ncurses disk usage) is a useful text-mode application for finding what has filled a file system.  I try to always install it before the file system is full because when the file system is full you cannot install a new package to get a program to help you see how the disk space is used.13:41
brolin_empeyKDirStat and similar GUI applications that use a squarified tree map to visually show how the space in a file system is used are very helpful if you can run such an application on your N900.13:45
brolin_empeyncdu is nice and fast for remote usage because it uses only text mode.13:47
brolin_empeyKotCzarny: Regarding the request of dattelfisch, did MAX9 ever contact you about hosting the N950/Harmattan files?13:55
brolin_empeyI can probably host the files too if you ever get them.13:55
brolin_empeydattelfisch: Is this useful?14:08
brolin_empeyhttps://thepiratebay.org/torrent/7530337/Nokia_N950_PR1.3_firmware_(leaked)14:08
KotCzarnyhttps://www.cnx-software.com/2019/11/16/buy-pinephone-braveheart-limited-edition-linux-smartphone/14:11
KotCzarny:)14:11
KotCzarnyWhen fulfilling the purchase, please bear in mind that we are offering the PinePhone at this price as a community service to PINE64, Linux and BSD communities. If you think that a minor dissatisfaction, such as a dead pixel, will prompt you to file a PayPal dispute then please do not purchase the PinePhone. Thank you.14:15
KotCzarnybuyer beware, this batch is mostly for dev/brave heart users14:15
sixwheeledbeastI am sure there are Linux 950 images somewhere14:21
sixwheeledbeast~95014:21
sixwheeledbeast~listkeys 95014:22
infobotFactoid search of '950' by key (21 of 174): firmware-n950 ;; n950-firmware ;; rfc950 ;; zip 39502 ;; zip 39503 ;; zip 49509 ;; zip 50950 ;; zip 7950 ;; zip 79503 ;; zip 79505 ;; zip 79508 ;; zip 91950 ;; zip 93950 ;; zip 94950 ;; zip 95001 ;; zip 95002 ;; zip 95004 ;; zip 95009 ;; zip 95011 ;; zip 95019 ;; zip 95021.14:22
bencohI don't think I have them14:22
bencohmerlin1991 might have a copy (maybe)14:22
sixwheeledbeast~firmware-n95014:22
infoboti heard firmware-n950 is The latest OneClickFlasher for the Nokia N950 is available from http://harmattan-dev.nokia.com/release/N950/firmware/14:22
sixwheeledbeast~n950-firmware14:22
infobotmethinks n950-firmware is The latest OneClickFlasher for the Nokia N950 is available from http://harmattan-dev.nokia.com/release/N950/firmware/14:22
sixwheeledbeasthmm14:22
bencohmaybe archive.org14:22
bencohhttps://www.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Maemo#N9_.28Harmattan.29 doesn't seem to be there14:23
dattelfischYes, it's very difficult to find any older images...the device seems to be not working with the Harmattan PR images I found. https://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=10075916:06
bencohoh, DocScrutinizer05 might have something as well16:08
DocScrutinizer05hm?16:08
dattelfischTherefore Nemo could be a solution, but the correct moslo file is also hard to find.16:08
DocScrutinizer05sorry in a hurry. You got 60s16:08
bencohDocScrutinizer05: hey there! dattelfisch is looking for old / exotic N950 firmware images16:08
DocScrutinizer05maemo.cloud-7.de16:09
dattelfischOh, yes I have a device (HW0322) but the images I can find are not working16:09
dattelfischThese are the images I already tried16:10
DocScrutinizer05http://maemo.cloud-7.de/950/myimages/16:10
dattelfischSo do I have the possibility to find a matching image?16:11
bencohKotCzarny: I guess you never got to retrieve them? https://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1557999&postcount=31816:11
KotCzarnybencoh: nope17:57
* sicelo wonders why 'modern' smartphone OSes don't have a way to go offline on some accounts while device is connected to Internet ... sux18:59
siceloseems closest they get is offering you a Logout method19:03
sixwheeledbeasthttps://www.debian.org/vote/2019/vote_002 Looks important to the future of Debian.19:53
* lupine mashes C hard19:54
sicelosixwheeledbeast: mmm, i get 403 error19:54
sixwheeledbeastI don't19:55
sixwheeledbeastC? err?19:55
sixwheeledbeastAlso https://lwn.net/ml/debian-vote/24014.36465.436524.968683@chiark.greenend.org.uk/19:57
WikiwideWhy does community-ssu-enabler-testing depend on qtquickcompat?..20:28
WikiwideDependencies of mbarcode-plugin-qrcode do not seem to make sense.20:55
WikiwideHow do Ilist all manually installed packages?21:01
KotCzarnydpkg -l21:03
KotCzarnyand write a script that iterates over the list with apt-cache policy?21:03
WikiwideI don't want to have packages listed which were automatically installed as dependencies of other packages?21:03
WikiwideAh, script...21:04
WikiwideWhy does mp-fremantle-community-pr depend on so much Qt?..21:08
KotCzarnybecause it's a metapackage that's catch-all ?21:08
KotCzarnyand probably someone made sure it's not left out21:09
WikiwideWell, it should depend on essential things - like hildon-desktop and hildon-home and xterm and rtcom-messaging and such. Let high-level applications pull in low-level dependencies?21:09
WikiwideGot you, python-glade2! You can be removed, and you will not pull down anything else with you.21:12
WikiwideAs beautiful as Ansela is, I had to uninstall it - I already have one photo browser, thank you very much.21:13
sixwheeledbeastCome one come all, all aboard the HMS metapackage21:16
WikiwideNetstory, you are nice, but I am not opening you at all lately. Musicsheettest, till better days. Lighttpd-dav-gui, goodbye as well.21:18
WikiwideWhy does autocompleteeditor depend on python2.5-sip4?..21:21
WikiwidePhonestream didn't remove its config file from homefs when purged.21:34
WikiwideWhy did I have libqhull5 installed?..21:42
DocScrutinizer05>>Let high-level applications pull in low-level dependencies?<< alas that's how maemo is FUBAR by design. Zhe dependencies *never* were managed in any sane way, it always was a "take it all or leave it" "meta distro"23:46
DocScrutinizer05you install a shitload of apps by "flashing a ROM image" and none of all those apps and programs gets a sane dependency metainfo for apt23:48
DocScrutinizer05CSSU ntried to inprove the situation but it always been a uphill battle23:49
DocScrutinizer05I also asked freemangordon to create a neo-fremantle built from scratch and just explicitly importing blobs we have no source for. So all apps would get their deb pkg incl clean comprehensive dependencies. Seems I never managed to convey the purpose of such exercise23:56

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