| sicelo | i want to test this on iPhone 5C in the morning. curious to see what'll happen on it | 00:13 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | PIA acquired by Kape Technologies https://www.technadu.com/kape-technologies-acquire-private-internet-access-vpn-early-2020/85391/ | 10:25 |
| sicelo | tested syncing tasks with iPhone 5C. so it seems Android/DAVx5/OpenTasks is a bit too pedantic about timezone ... the iPhone shows the tasks with the correct date. just no alarm (which i don't mind too much) | 11:50 |
| buZz | sixwheeledbeast: oh gee, wonder if Andrew is gonna sell freenode to some faceless tech company aswell | 11:52 |
| sixwheeledbeast | I suppose the concern is Kape Techs history | 11:52 |
| sicelo | is DocScrutinizer05 still with PIA? | 11:53 |
| KotCzarny | freenode has a commercial value? | 11:53 |
| buZz | the data does | 11:53 |
| buZz | the network doesnt | 11:53 |
| sixwheeledbeast | Indeed I could see fake AI bots leaning the conversation on topics I believe that goes on in other platforms | 11:55 |
| buZz | GPT-2 trained on someone's irc text would be a -very- good basis for identity copying | 11:56 |
| buZz | or theft | 11:57 |
| sicelo | silly q - isn't that data already easily accessible? | 11:57 |
| KotCzarny | depending on 'easily' | 11:59 |
| KotCzarny | i think freenode has channels limit | 11:59 |
| KotCzarny | so you just cant join all | 11:59 |
| KotCzarny | and also has a policy against bots | 11:59 |
| buZz | yeah i hit that limit a bunch of times | 11:59 |
| buZz | if you can read along on the serverside, there would be lower chance of people noticing | 11:59 |
| KotCzarny | sure, nsa probably has it's own freenode connection | 11:59 |
| KotCzarny | but commercial entrepeneurs dont | 12:00 |
| buZz | like andrew lee? | 12:00 |
| KotCzarny | who is that? | 12:00 |
| sixwheeledbeast | sicelo: The issue is it being done internally by a company not just by any random bot. | 12:00 |
| sixwheeledbeast | Freenodes owner? | 12:01 |
| buZz | KotCzarny: andrew lee is korean prince that owns Londontrustmedia who owns PIA and Freenode and some NYC brothel and some wrestling stuff | 12:02 |
| buZz | and a house in LA that looks like its been in >50% of porn movies | 12:02 |
| KotCzarny | irc can generate a lot of data, so he probably has to partner with some company for data processing | 12:02 |
| buZz | he owns a ton of companies | 12:03 |
| sixwheeledbeast | The other thing is if an IRC network became out of favour then you can always move to another it's not proprietary | 12:05 |
| buZz | yeah OFTC is still voluntary run | 12:05 |
| buZz | and not owned by some single royalty company | 12:05 |
| KotCzarny | thing is that freenode became de facto standard for development/projects support | 12:07 |
| KotCzarny | and cooperation | 12:07 |
| sixwheeledbeast | People that use IRC now are more tech knowledgable so upsetting them may lead to mass migration and therefore nothing to monitor. It's probably a lose lose situation. | 12:07 |
| buZz | sixwheeledbeast: yeah i think andrew didnt think it through | 12:08 |
| buZz | he also owns kiwiirc btc | 12:08 |
| KotCzarny | thing is, its not that easy to migrate | 12:11 |
| KotCzarny | and it all depends on cost calculation | 12:11 |
| KotCzarny | if there is money to gain from selling data that will make up for the cost of the network, guess what will happen | 12:11 |
| buZz | so you're argueing the data is already being sold a lot | 12:12 |
| KotCzarny | isnt it? | 12:12 |
| buZz | and the commercial owner of freenode cant proof anything to guarantee it doesnt happen | 12:12 |
| buZz | so when is #maemo moving to OFTC? | 12:13 |
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