libera/#maemo/ Tuesday, 2020-01-14

drathirdid You guys hear about about "new" very secure for damage li-ion batteries ? them even fire resistant ones... water blend stab and looks like flexible plastic, and them if good remember more non toxic ones in compare to old ones...04:29
ceenehi guys09:29
ceenehow you doing?09:29
KotCzarnyautumn sickness09:29
ceenethat's strange because it's winter already09:29
siceloby the way, some might be interested in https://maemo-leste.github.io/maemo-leste-eleventh-update-january-2020.html09:32
ceenei was thinking of installing that in one of my n900, with the idea of having an uptodate kernel in which to install "modern" ham radio software09:32
ceenei say "modern" because ham radio software for linux is everything but modern09:33
siceloyou have nothing to lose :)09:33
ceenexastir has the most outdated interface I've ever seen09:33
ceenealso, I think the sdcard in which I have easydebian installed is failing09:35
ceenewhen I try to do somethings with it, the phone suddenly reboots (kernel panic?)09:35
ceeneIIRC I also have there two swap partitions09:35
ceenedoes audio input & output work on leste, via headset?09:36
siceloi believe so, yes. but you'll have to do it via alsamixer, etc.09:37
ceenei'll give it a try then09:38
ceeneby the way, maybe you guys know how to solve an issue I'm having with a Zynq based board09:38
ceeneLinux fails detecting an SPI memory flash that is correctly detected by u-boot. u-boot says: SF: Detected n25q128a13 with page size 256 Bytes, erase size 4 KiB, total 16 MiB; while Linux reports: m25p80 spi0.0: unrecognized JEDEC id bytes: 00 00 00 00 00 0009:39
ceeneDoes u-boot do something extremely clever that Linux does not?09:39
ceenethe only gue that has answered me about this on #linux is someone who doesn't know what u-boot is09:41
ceeneso I think i'm on my own :D09:41
ceenes/gue/guy/09:41
KotCzarnyceene: spi driver has a hardcoded data about known flash09:42
KotCzarnyso just find/add09:42
KotCzarnybut id being all 0 might mean something else is wrong09:43
ceeneyep, the problem is that this thing seems to be reading all 00 bytes, so it doesn't find it in the database09:43
ceenethis chip memory is already in the driver, it should work09:43
ceenei have similar boards with the same chip that are getting recognized just fine09:43
KotCzarnywrong spi config then in linux?09:43
ceenei don't know, the device tree is the same in both linux and u-boot09:44
badcloud_Any reason the "Alarm tone" button is greyed?15:37
badcloud_Also, I was wondering if there is a lock screen that shows sms/email/im content15:38
sicelointeresting. that's the first thing i disable on Android :p15:53
badcloud_sicelo haha15:53
KotCzarnyalarms? but they are useful :)15:53
sicelothe lock screen notifications15:54
KotCzarnyi know, just kidding15:54
sicelootoh, N900 is still my main device .. so even alarms, music, etc. - all happens on N90015:56
KotCzarnyif i could only run some of the android apps on it easily..15:56
sicelowhich ones do you use/need most KotCzarny?16:19
KotCzarnycity bicycles, bank, steam guard16:26
KotCzarnynetflix is nice too16:35
badcloud_What's the difference between modrana and modrana-qml? Aside from the name :)18:38
KotCzarnylibraries compiled against?18:41
siceloiirc it's the UI in use. without QML, it uses GTK18:46
badcloud_Makes sense18:53
badcloud_I'm still in the dark about not being able to change the alarm tone18:58
badcloud_I successfully installed thumb18:59
siceloalarm tone?19:00
badcloud_Yes19:00
badcloud_The button is greyed out19:00
badcloud_In maemo,  not modrana19:01
siceloi think you're trying to set the tone while setting an alarm? i guess someone wanted to implement different alarm ringtones :)19:02
siceloJust do it in Clock > Alarm Settings19:02
sicelos/different /per-/19:03
badcloud_Thanks, that's what I missed :P19:03
siceloyw19:05
badcloud_Is there mp-fremantle-community-pr for thumb?19:08
KotCzarnyhow did you install thumb?19:08
badcloud_I tried according to the wiki19:09
badcloud_With the .install file19:09
KotCzarnyok19:09
badcloud_But in the end I had to apt-get upgrade19:09
sicelowhat is your output for `apt-cache policy mp-fremantle-community-pr`19:10
badcloud_Sec19:10
badcloud_https://pastebin.com/s7bCEUpU19:14
sicelohaha, it says none installed19:15
siceloi'd say re-do the steps. you obviously should have backups of important stuff in case things go south19:16
KotCzarnyi bet on some dependency failed19:17
KotCzarnyor you didnt wait for package manager to process installation properly19:18
badcloud_It gave me an error regarding the thumb enabler19:18
badcloud_So, start from scratch?19:19
siceloso do it again then, and let us know what error it gives you19:19
badcloud_Flash?19:19
KotCzarnytry without at first19:19
badcloud_package 'community-ssu-enabler' not found19:22
badcloud_That's also what I got before19:22
KotCzarnyhttps://talk.maemo.org/archive/index.php/t-72052.html19:23
KotCzarnymight be related19:23
KotCzarnywhat are your repos?19:24
badcloud_Apt-get found it, I'm trying that route19:25
siceloat least :)19:25
badcloud_https://pastebin.com/yKCeD8tM19:27
badcloud_https://pastebin.com/aWHbNiiD19:28
siceloyou don't have the Thumb repos there19:28
sicelohow are you installing Thumb?19:28
sicelohere's the .install file for Thumb19:29
badcloud_What about: deb http://maemo.merlin1991.at/cssu/community-thumb/ fremantle free non-free?19:33
badcloud_sicelo where's the .install file?19:35
siceloah, i didn't see your 2nd paste19:35
siceloyou have this in two separate files?19:35
badcloud_yes19:35
sicelohow did that happen?19:36
* sicelo checks on his N90019:36
badcloud_Hmm, the hildon list file was written by the .install file19:37
badcloud_the source list updated by me19:37
siceloyou generally shouldn't do that.19:37
badcloud_I see19:38
badcloud_What do yours look like?19:38
KotCzarnywhich basically means, backup your repos, then use only basic ones + the one from installer19:38
KotCzarny~maemo-repos19:38
infobotrumour has it, maemo-repos is http://wiki.maemo.org/Repository#List_of_Maemo_repositories19:38
siceloyou can remove everything from the sources.list file, and just open the file i linked above ... it will update the repos accordingly19:38
badcloud_sicelo can't see the link19:39
sicelo http://maemo.merlin1991.at/cssu/community-thumb/community-thumb-fremantle.install19:40
badcloud_That's the one I used19:40
sicelo:)19:41
badcloud_so just scrap the sources.list?19:41
sicelo(1) empty everything in sources.list, (2) open this file on N900 using the browser - it will then 'take' over, open Application Manager, etc.19:43
siceloyou don't have to manually add the repositories anywhere19:43
KotCzarnydoesnt app manager have own repo list/19:43
badcloud_What about the hildon-application-manager.list file?19:44
KotCzarnythats what im talking about19:44
siceloleave the hildon-application-manager.list file alone. use the .install file above19:45
sicelohttp://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU/Thumb#Installation  <<-19:45
badcloud_Ok19:45
badcloud_That's the wiki I used19:45
badcloud_Gave me the same error, package 'community-ssu-enablr' not found19:48
badcloud_enabler19:48
sicelook19:49
sicelocheck if hildon-application-manager.list has deb http://maemo.merlin1991.at/cssu/community-thumb/ fremantle free non-free perhaps now19:51
sicelobtw, did it open the Application Manager when you clicked the .install file?19:53
badcloud_deb http://maemo.merlin1991.at/cssu/community-thumb/ fremantle free non-free19:53
badcloud_Whoops, mistake19:53
badcloud_Hold on19:53
badcloud_https://pastebin.com/dTRsEDwq19:54
badcloud_Looks like I have double community-testing19:55
siceloat least the thumb repo is there now19:55
badcloud_And, yes. HAM opened when opening the .install file19:56
sicelohope you didn't close HAM afterwards :)19:57
badcloud_Of course not...19:57
siceloany errors yet?19:57
badcloud_package 'community-ssu-enabler' not found19:58
badcloud_I already installed that package via apt, seems like I'm running testing now19:58
siceloyou can try installing it in apt19:58
siceloah19:58
KotCzarnyi think ham does some additional mumbo-jumbo19:59
badcloud_81 packages being updated via apt now20:00
badcloud_Worst case I'll just reflash and try again...20:03
siceloit should be fine. i've installed CSSU using apt with no ill-effect20:07
badcloud_:)20:10
badcloud_How do you install u-boot alongside cssu?20:10
sicelolike any other package20:12
badcloud_Ok20:12
badcloud_For some reason I remember them clashing20:12
sicelothe only thing you need to be careful about is - since you'll be using -thumb, immediately after installing uboot, be sure to set Kernel Power to be the default kernel.20:14
sicelodo this before rebooting the device20:14
siceloreason - -thumb can't boot on the vanilla N900 kernel, which uboot defaults to20:16
sicelohttps://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1150740&postcount=1 has all the info you need20:17
badcloud_Done!20:18
badcloud_Now to test things out...20:19
badcloud_u-boot-flasher: Depends: kernel-modules20:24
badcloud_apt-get install kernel-modules:  kernel-cssu-modules instead of kernel-modules20:26
sicelothat's ok.20:28
badcloud_Doesn't seem like uboot installed20:31
siceloif it installed, you should have seen it flashing a kernel - same as when you flash on pc20:32
badcloud_That's it, I didn't see that20:32
siceloiirc it should even popup a dialog warning you about kernel install20:32
badcloud_I remember that too, it didn't do that20:32
siceloyou can just reinstall - u-boot-tools, uboot-flasher, kernel-cssu-bootimg20:34
badcloud_ Broken package: u-boot-flasher: Depends: kernel-modules20:39
siceloseems you're missing a repo20:43
badcloud_https://pastebin.com/Tg7MjTaK20:46
badcloud_probably extras-devel20:46
sicelonot devel20:48
siceloyou're missing the standard repos20:48
sicelo~maemo-repos20:48
infobotfrom memory, maemo-repos is http://wiki.maemo.org/Repository#List_of_Maemo_repositories20:48
siceloi use muarf mirrors20:49
badcloud_Ok, I'll add them to the hildon list20:53
badcloud_Added the two repos to sources.list21:03
badcloud_Still got same error from at-get21:04
badcloud_apt21:04
KotCzarnyafair, every time you run ham it will nuke your sources.list21:04
KotCzarny:)21:04
badcloud_I see21:04
siceloyou should add repos in HAM, not sources.list, and not even hildon-whatwhat.list21:04
sicelothere's a .install file for muarf - http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/et_al/HAM-catalogs/muarf_all.install21:07
badcloud_Oh thank god, I was afraid I'd have to type it all in21:08
badcloud_Still getting same error21:12
badcloud_Holy crap...21:13
siceloshow u your hildon.list21:13
badcloud_https://pastebin.com/DLFZfPw921:14
badcloud_I remember that one repo needs to be disabled when running thumb, right?21:15
sicelosame error? menaing "Broken package: u-boot-flasher: Depends: kernel-modules" ?21:16
badcloud_Yep21:16
sicelosounds like an unfinished catalog refresh. the package is definitely available21:17
sicelohttp://maemo.muarf.org/apt-mirror/mirror/repository.maemo.org/pool/maemo5.0/free/k/kernel/21:18
KotCzarnydidnt you tell him to install power-kernel?21:18
KotCzarny:)21:18
badcloud_yup21:18
siceloKotCzarny: power-kernel installs automatically for thumb. it's a requirement21:19
KotCzarnymaybe modules wont suck kernel as a dep21:19
siceloyou're installing using apt or HAM?21:20
badcloud_tried via apt, I can't see the packages in HAM21:21
siceloapt-get update && apt-get install u-boot-tools uboot-flasher kernel-cssu-bootimg21:22
badcloud_That's what I did, no go21:22
sicelosounds impossible (to me)21:23
badcloud_I''l try again21:24
* sicelo installs u-boot on thumb N90021:24
badcloud_Boohoo21:25
badcloud_How do I tell if I'm running thunb?21:25
siceloControl Panel > General > About Community CSSU21:26
badcloud_Says testing21:26
siceloyes, under version, should end with `+thumb0`21:26
badcloud_Tmaemo1221:27
sicelothen you're not on thumb yet21:27
siceloanyway, u-boot issue is unrelated to thumb21:27
sicelomaybe just reflash and start from scratch if that's easier :)21:29
badcloud_Maybe21:29
siceloat least not you know what repos you need, etc.21:29
sicelos/not/now/21:29
infobotsicelo meant: at least now you know what repos you need, etc.21:29
badcloud_I'm gonna make one last desperate try and remove community-ssu-enabler and then reinstall21:34
badcloud_sicelo thanks so much for the help :)21:35
siceloyw21:36
* badcloud_ is reflashing this BEYOTSCH22:24
badcloud_sicelo If you're still there, I just reflashed, loaded both .install files (muarf first), still got error22:49
badcloud_package community-ssu-enabler not found22:50
KotCzarnydoes the error exist on normal cssu too?22:50
badcloud_Not sure, I'd like to install thumb22:51
KotCzarnystart with normal cssu, just to be sure its not something on your side22:51
badcloud_You mean stable or testing?22:51
sicelotesting22:51
badcloud_Ok22:51
badcloud_http://repository.maemo.org/community-testing/community-testing-fremantle.install ?22:52
badcloud_Do I need to remove thumb repo first?22:53
sicelobut, have you not already tried to install thumb? might be best to reflash again ..22:53
badcloud_No, I just reflashed22:54
badcloud_All the install file did was change hildon.list and look for community-ssu-enabler22:54
sicelomaybe go in to HAM and disable the Thumb repo then, and use that install file you linked22:55
badcloud_the testing install file works22:57
badcloud_is it possible to go to thumb after installing testing?22:58
KotCzarnyyes22:58
badcloud_giddyup then :)22:58
badcloud_Pretty sure it will give me the same error when I try to install thumb23:00
badcloud_It worked for you guys?23:01
KotCzarnyit was long time ago23:01
sicelosame here ... long time :)23:02
badcloud_:)23:02
siceloand i won't reflash - bandwidth issues23:02
badcloud_I see23:03
badcloud_Are the updates dating up until 2017 only for thumb?23:04
KotCzarnytesting might be newer than thumb23:05
siceloyes, it is23:05
siceloanyway, Maemo Fremantle has been frozen for a long time now. No one is (actively) working on CSSU anymore.23:06
badcloud_Yeah, I know. I can't wait til Leste has UI call support. You guys are doing god's work23:06
badcloud_So what would be the route for switching to thumb, deleting testing's repos and then loading the install file?23:09
sicelono need to delete testing. just go with the install file.23:10
sicelothumb IS a version of testing :)23:10
siceloanyway, here's my .list for comparison - http://paste.debian.net/1126025/23:12
badcloud_Nice23:12
siceloyou don't need the -devel and -sdk ones of course23:13
badcloud_Hmmm, screen went blank...23:22
badcloud_ssh session froze23:23
badcloud_Testing installation conked23:50

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