libera/#maemo/ Sunday, 2020-04-05

AStormhello, is this alive after 12 years? how can I upgrade the old n810 still?11:39
AStormdusted it off and it still... somewhat works11:39
AStormneeds an SD card in the miniSD adapter though, and I cannot find one right now11:39
AStormit has OS 2008 ancient history on it11:44
sixwheeledbeastI know very little about the n810 but someone may do11:45
AStormgot the flasher and stuff, but is there anything actually new for this ancient hardware11:45
AStormof course tablets-dev.nokia.com is long gone11:46
AStormrepository seems to end in 201311:47
AStormoriginal catalogue is gone too11:48
AStormbut repository.maemo.org still exists11:48
AStormI'll check what's on it, chinook, gregale, diablo or fremantle11:48
sixwheeledbeastI wouldn't think so. lots of infra was broken when microsoft took over nokia the community have kept what they could working11:49
bencohn810 most probably runs diablo11:49
sixwheeledbeast~n81011:49
bencohas for repository.maemo.org, it doesn't host any of the "base" repositories11:50
sixwheeledbeastdiablo sounds right11:50
bencoh(apart from sdk stuff)11:50
bencohunfortunately I never mirrored diablo, but afair a few maemo members did back then11:50
AStormthere's this ancient history: http://repository.maemo.org/stable/diablo/11:51
AStormof course if mer or anything else is more recommended for this old hardware, I'm game11:51
AStormthe device has the alternate custom initramfs11:51
AStormor was it bootloader11:51
AStormone with a menu11:51
bencohmer won't run there11:52
bencoh128MB ram will probably be short for maemo-leste as well11:52
bencohalthough I wonder how short11:52
sixwheeledbeastpmOS ?11:53
bencohmaybe pmOS yeah :)11:53
AStormlooks like chinook is on it, at least that's what set in repositories11:53
bencohwith some really lightweight wm11:53
bencohAStorm: I'd backup everything I could first11:53
AStormpmOS would be fine if it fits11:53
sixwheeledbeastanyway to make leste lighter?11:53
AStormoh it is backed up all right somewhere, can back it up more11:54
bencohsixwheeledbeast: how much does leste actually take at boot?11:54
bencoh(after a fresh boot I mean)11:54
AStormso, flasher can do full backup right?11:54
bencohfull as in "drop full mmc/nand image here and I'll flash it back"? doubt it, but dunno11:55
sixwheeledbeastno idea11:55
bencohwell, it can flash alright11:55
bencohbut I doubt there is an easy way to make such an image11:55
AStormmmm I think it either needs a cable or initramfs, let's see a reboot11:58
AStormI even have Opera 10.1 beta on it :311:58
AStormha I still remember the magic key combo11:59
AStormwow I have mer on this too12:03
AStormhowever the standard cable I have is not compatible with flasher - I have the nokia cable but elsewhere12:04
sixwheeledbeastProbably just a charging cable with the data pins shorted12:18
AStormanyway flasher cannot make a backup, I'll have to get here some Linux12:25
AStormhmm the device is "seen" but not by flasher12:26
AStormlooks like Nokia BB5 ADL loader12:27
sicelois it armhf/armv7? if not, pmOS won't work12:59
AStormit can run armv713:08
AStormit's TI OMAP 2xxx some number13:09
AStormTI OMAP 2420 specifically, 128 MB ram13:09
AStormoof, I think it's armv6 with Thumb 213:11
AStormas in ARM1136 or something with PowerVR13:12
AStormit does have hard fpu.13:14
AStormso it's armhf I suppose13:14
AStormhowever, it's armv6 with hard fpu, not armv7; it does not support thumb 213:15
siceloanyway isn't like pmOS is any efficient. it just should be lighter than Leste because it doesn't force you to use hildon ... for that RAM, I suppose only choice would be something like i3 (unless you're lucky xfce works)13:15
AStormold matchbox perhaps, like mer13:15
siceloiirc alpine (on which pmOS is based) dropped armv6 long ago13:15
AStormI could always gentoo it up13:16
AStormthe big trick is kernel and powervr mbx lite driver13:16
AStormpotentially GPS driver too13:16
siceloor debian (devuan) :)13:16
AStormthe CPU is supported even in linux 513:17
sicelohttps://wiki.postmarketos.org/wiki/Unsupported_Devices13:18
AStormyeah I think OMAP 2420 might be supported enough as it's v6 hardfp13:20
AStormalbeit it's faster with as little fp as possible13:21
AStormI think the setup for Nokia N9 would work13:50
AStormthat one had OMAP 363013:51

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