AStorm | hello, is this alive after 12 years? how can I upgrade the old n810 still? | 11:39 |
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AStorm | dusted it off and it still... somewhat works | 11:39 |
AStorm | needs an SD card in the miniSD adapter though, and I cannot find one right now | 11:39 |
AStorm | it has OS 2008 ancient history on it | 11:44 |
sixwheeledbeast | I know very little about the n810 but someone may do | 11:45 |
AStorm | got the flasher and stuff, but is there anything actually new for this ancient hardware | 11:45 |
AStorm | of course tablets-dev.nokia.com is long gone | 11:46 |
AStorm | repository seems to end in 2013 | 11:47 |
AStorm | original catalogue is gone too | 11:48 |
AStorm | but repository.maemo.org still exists | 11:48 |
AStorm | I'll check what's on it, chinook, gregale, diablo or fremantle | 11:48 |
sixwheeledbeast | I wouldn't think so. lots of infra was broken when microsoft took over nokia the community have kept what they could working | 11:49 |
bencoh | n810 most probably runs diablo | 11:49 |
sixwheeledbeast | ~n810 | 11:49 |
bencoh | as for repository.maemo.org, it doesn't host any of the "base" repositories | 11:50 |
sixwheeledbeast | diablo sounds right | 11:50 |
bencoh | (apart from sdk stuff) | 11:50 |
bencoh | unfortunately I never mirrored diablo, but afair a few maemo members did back then | 11:50 |
AStorm | there's this ancient history: http://repository.maemo.org/stable/diablo/ | 11:51 |
AStorm | of course if mer or anything else is more recommended for this old hardware, I'm game | 11:51 |
AStorm | the device has the alternate custom initramfs | 11:51 |
AStorm | or was it bootloader | 11:51 |
AStorm | one with a menu | 11:51 |
bencoh | mer won't run there | 11:52 |
bencoh | 128MB ram will probably be short for maemo-leste as well | 11:52 |
bencoh | although I wonder how short | 11:52 |
sixwheeledbeast | pmOS ? | 11:53 |
bencoh | maybe pmOS yeah :) | 11:53 |
AStorm | looks like chinook is on it, at least that's what set in repositories | 11:53 |
bencoh | with some really lightweight wm | 11:53 |
bencoh | AStorm: I'd backup everything I could first | 11:53 |
AStorm | pmOS would be fine if it fits | 11:53 |
sixwheeledbeast | anyway to make leste lighter? | 11:53 |
AStorm | oh it is backed up all right somewhere, can back it up more | 11:54 |
bencoh | sixwheeledbeast: how much does leste actually take at boot? | 11:54 |
bencoh | (after a fresh boot I mean) | 11:54 |
AStorm | so, flasher can do full backup right? | 11:54 |
bencoh | full as in "drop full mmc/nand image here and I'll flash it back"? doubt it, but dunno | 11:55 |
sixwheeledbeast | no idea | 11:55 |
bencoh | well, it can flash alright | 11:55 |
bencoh | but I doubt there is an easy way to make such an image | 11:55 |
AStorm | mmm I think it either needs a cable or initramfs, let's see a reboot | 11:58 |
AStorm | I even have Opera 10.1 beta on it :3 | 11:58 |
AStorm | ha I still remember the magic key combo | 11:59 |
AStorm | wow I have mer on this too | 12:03 |
AStorm | however the standard cable I have is not compatible with flasher - I have the nokia cable but elsewhere | 12:04 |
sixwheeledbeast | Probably just a charging cable with the data pins shorted | 12:18 |
AStorm | anyway flasher cannot make a backup, I'll have to get here some Linux | 12:25 |
AStorm | hmm the device is "seen" but not by flasher | 12:26 |
AStorm | looks like Nokia BB5 ADL loader | 12:27 |
sicelo | is it armhf/armv7? if not, pmOS won't work | 12:59 |
AStorm | it can run armv7 | 13:08 |
AStorm | it's TI OMAP 2xxx some number | 13:09 |
AStorm | TI OMAP 2420 specifically, 128 MB ram | 13:09 |
AStorm | oof, I think it's armv6 with Thumb 2 | 13:11 |
AStorm | as in ARM1136 or something with PowerVR | 13:12 |
AStorm | it does have hard fpu. | 13:14 |
AStorm | so it's armhf I suppose | 13:14 |
AStorm | however, it's armv6 with hard fpu, not armv7; it does not support thumb 2 | 13:15 |
sicelo | anyway isn't like pmOS is any efficient. it just should be lighter than Leste because it doesn't force you to use hildon ... for that RAM, I suppose only choice would be something like i3 (unless you're lucky xfce works) | 13:15 |
AStorm | old matchbox perhaps, like mer | 13:15 |
sicelo | iirc alpine (on which pmOS is based) dropped armv6 long ago | 13:15 |
AStorm | I could always gentoo it up | 13:16 |
AStorm | the big trick is kernel and powervr mbx lite driver | 13:16 |
AStorm | potentially GPS driver too | 13:16 |
sicelo | or debian (devuan) :) | 13:16 |
AStorm | the CPU is supported even in linux 5 | 13:17 |
sicelo | https://wiki.postmarketos.org/wiki/Unsupported_Devices | 13:18 |
AStorm | yeah I think OMAP 2420 might be supported enough as it's v6 hardfp | 13:20 |
AStorm | albeit it's faster with as little fp as possible | 13:21 |
AStorm | I think the setup for Nokia N9 would work | 13:50 |
AStorm | that one had OMAP 3630 | 13:51 |
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