libera/#maemo/ Tuesday, 2020-06-02

brolin_empeysixwheeledbeast: The HDD has to always be spinning because I need the non-volatile memory of the computer to always be accessible.  If an HDD is always running then it will fail, maybe like this:07:58
brolin_empeyhttp://brolin.be/graphics/20191206_215725_HDD_dying_after_running_almost_continuously_for_8_years.mp407:58
MaxdamantusIf you're just looking for storage, the harddrives will still very likely be cheaper.08:32
MaxdamantusJust buy two of them for reliability.08:32
KotCzarnyhdds are also way better for long time storage08:33
MaxdamantusHDDs seem to be around NZ$50 per TB while HDDs seem to be around NZ$200 per TB.08:35
Maxdamantuser08:36
MaxdamantusHDDs seem to be around NZ$50 per TB while SSDs seem to be around NZ$200 per TB.08:36
brolin_empeyI stopped buying HDDs but I stopped buying larger than 2.5-inch HDDs before I stopped buying HDDs completely.08:37
brolin_empeyI have some 3.5-inch HDDs that still work but are useless because I use devices that can only use 2.5-inch or smaller drives.08:39
MaxdamantusLike laptops?08:40
MaxdamantusI wouldn't bother putting anything other than an SSD in a laptop nowadays.08:40
MaxdamantusLast I checked, capacity of 2.5" HDDs was also fairly limited anyway.08:41
sixwheeledbeast2.5 have a much higher failure rate, also in portable devices you more likely to lose data from damage moving stuff around. You also have SMR issue08:42
KotCzarnylimited? i have 2tb ssd in my lappy08:44
KotCzarnyas a storage drive08:45
KotCzarnybecause tlc and stuff, but still08:45
MaxdamantusHDD size is limited. There aren't many 2.5" HDDs bigger than 2 TB.08:45
KotCzarnythere will be08:46
KotCzarny96layers 3d nands are coming08:46
Maxdamantus*HDD*08:46
MaxdamantusNot SSD.08:46
sunshaviSpace08:46
KotCzarnystill, flash will die much faster than magnetic spindles08:47
sixwheeledbeastalso things like HAMR08:47
sixwheeledbeastfrom a risk of failure POV I would archive with spinning and use SSD in portables myself.08:48
KotCzarnyyup08:48
KotCzarnysilicon rots08:48
sixwheeledbeastYou can easily knock your laptop and when you have a little damage in there you can start to loose blocks from the bits moving about.08:49
KotCzarny2.5" 4tb 5400rpm seagate is ~200usd08:50
KotCzarny5 platters inside 2.5", madness, hehe08:52
KotCzarnybut it's quite green driver, only ~2W of active power08:53
KotCzarnyand ~0.85-1.3W idle08:54
KotCzarnycant find which *MR it's using08:56
sixwheeledbeastKotCzarny: buy a STDR4000100 and rip the case off + half price.09:05
sixwheeledbeasts/+/=/09:06
infobotsixwheeledbeast meant: KotCzarny: buy a STDR4000100 and rip the case off = half price.09:06
KotCzarnywell it was a price for ST4000LM02409:06
KotCzarnyand i strongly suspect much inferior writing technology09:07
KotCzarnyalso, some usb attached drives dont have sata connector inside09:09
sixwheeledbeasthttps://www.servethehome.com/seagate-4tb-2-5-sata-hdd-124-get-ready-density/09:10
KotCzarnythat's good09:25
KotCzarnyerm, wrong chan09:25

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