brolin_empey | sixwheeledbeast: The HDD has to always be spinning because I need the non-volatile memory of the computer to always be accessible. If an HDD is always running then it will fail, maybe like this: | 07:58 |
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brolin_empey | http://brolin.be/graphics/20191206_215725_HDD_dying_after_running_almost_continuously_for_8_years.mp4 | 07:58 |
Maxdamantus | If you're just looking for storage, the harddrives will still very likely be cheaper. | 08:32 |
Maxdamantus | Just buy two of them for reliability. | 08:32 |
KotCzarny | hdds are also way better for long time storage | 08:33 |
Maxdamantus | HDDs seem to be around NZ$50 per TB while HDDs seem to be around NZ$200 per TB. | 08:35 |
Maxdamantus | er | 08:36 |
Maxdamantus | HDDs seem to be around NZ$50 per TB while SSDs seem to be around NZ$200 per TB. | 08:36 |
brolin_empey | I stopped buying HDDs but I stopped buying larger than 2.5-inch HDDs before I stopped buying HDDs completely. | 08:37 |
brolin_empey | I have some 3.5-inch HDDs that still work but are useless because I use devices that can only use 2.5-inch or smaller drives. | 08:39 |
Maxdamantus | Like laptops? | 08:40 |
Maxdamantus | I wouldn't bother putting anything other than an SSD in a laptop nowadays. | 08:40 |
Maxdamantus | Last I checked, capacity of 2.5" HDDs was also fairly limited anyway. | 08:41 |
sixwheeledbeast | 2.5 have a much higher failure rate, also in portable devices you more likely to lose data from damage moving stuff around. You also have SMR issue | 08:42 |
KotCzarny | limited? i have 2tb ssd in my lappy | 08:44 |
KotCzarny | as a storage drive | 08:45 |
KotCzarny | because tlc and stuff, but still | 08:45 |
Maxdamantus | HDD size is limited. There aren't many 2.5" HDDs bigger than 2 TB. | 08:45 |
KotCzarny | there will be | 08:46 |
KotCzarny | 96layers 3d nands are coming | 08:46 |
Maxdamantus | *HDD* | 08:46 |
Maxdamantus | Not SSD. | 08:46 |
sunshavi | Space | 08:46 |
KotCzarny | still, flash will die much faster than magnetic spindles | 08:47 |
sixwheeledbeast | also things like HAMR | 08:47 |
sixwheeledbeast | from a risk of failure POV I would archive with spinning and use SSD in portables myself. | 08:48 |
KotCzarny | yup | 08:48 |
KotCzarny | silicon rots | 08:48 |
sixwheeledbeast | You can easily knock your laptop and when you have a little damage in there you can start to loose blocks from the bits moving about. | 08:49 |
KotCzarny | 2.5" 4tb 5400rpm seagate is ~200usd | 08:50 |
KotCzarny | 5 platters inside 2.5", madness, hehe | 08:52 |
KotCzarny | but it's quite green driver, only ~2W of active power | 08:53 |
KotCzarny | and ~0.85-1.3W idle | 08:54 |
KotCzarny | cant find which *MR it's using | 08:56 |
sixwheeledbeast | KotCzarny: buy a STDR4000100 and rip the case off + half price. | 09:05 |
sixwheeledbeast | s/+/=/ | 09:06 |
infobot | sixwheeledbeast meant: KotCzarny: buy a STDR4000100 and rip the case off = half price. | 09:06 |
KotCzarny | well it was a price for ST4000LM024 | 09:06 |
KotCzarny | and i strongly suspect much inferior writing technology | 09:07 |
KotCzarny | also, some usb attached drives dont have sata connector inside | 09:09 |
sixwheeledbeast | https://www.servethehome.com/seagate-4tb-2-5-sata-hdd-124-get-ready-density/ | 09:10 |
KotCzarny | that's good | 09:25 |
KotCzarny | erm, wrong chan | 09:25 |
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