libera/#maemo/ Thursday, 2021-05-06

DocScrutinizer05~easydeb02:56
DocScrutinizer05~pkg02:56
infobotrumour has it, pkg is http://maemo.org/packages/02:56
* enyc mewos05:26
L29Ahohhh so enyc isn't a bot06:19
enycL29Ah: =)09:04
enycL29Ah: are you a 29Ah lithium battery?09:05
KotCzarnyyou should've seen what he has done to his n90009:06
L29Ahsadly i've lost that photo, and cops have robbed me of my cute n90009:07
L29Ahnow i'm on a plain one and suffer due to short battery life09:07
DocScrutinizer05well, that's the price to pay for keeping battery hogs like original Hildon desktop and Skype12:49
DocScrutinizer05or even installing a genuine Debian without power saving patches12:51
DocScrutinizer05or just keeping WLAN scanning for APs every 5 minutes12:54
L29Ahmy device is idle 99% of time12:55
L29Ahbut pretty stock with cssu12:56
L29Ahmaybe the original flash sucks wrt idle consumption12:57
L29Ahi've lost all my hacks with the device as i didn't back anything up12:57
L29Ahmaybe i should actually try pressing on the cops to get it back12:58
L29Ahas i look into more modern smartphones, it feels like the low power technology went kinda backwards12:59
L29Ahthey feature huge batteries compared to n900 but about the same idle battery time12:59
siceloLarger screens maybe?13:00
KotCzarnythats because android is a fat, hungry pig13:00
L29Ahand they spend it in s2ram (as otherwise the power consumption is exorbitant) while n900 can actually run processes continually13:00
L29Ahsicelo: KotCzarny on PinePhone you have no android, screen is off, but you still waste half a watt or smth on the idling CPU afair13:01
KotCzarnypinephone uses inefficient soc13:01
KotCzarnythat might change once crust gets more mature13:01
KotCzarnybut its a lots of work for smaeul and others13:01
L29AhKotCzarny: ohh, what are they switching to?13:02
KotCzarnycrust is firmware to run on risc core13:03
KotCzarnyie. can put most of the phone to sleep when not needed13:03
L29AhKotCzarny: crust has nothing to do with the main CPU, no?13:03
KotCzarnyyes, see the 'run on the risc core' part13:03
KotCzarnyit communicates with arm cores/os via internal message box13:03
L29Ahthat has to be effectively offline and spends a LOT of time to go to sleep or to wake up, making it useless for continuous tasks, unlike n900 that can run sshd just fine13:04
KotCzarnybut can control almost any hw subsystem13:04
KotCzarnynot necessarily13:04
KotCzarnybut anyway, allwinner isnt the most power efficient soc in the world to start with13:04
KotCzarnystill, one of the few nicely REd13:05
KotCzarnyand supported in mainline linux13:05
parazydDoes Maemo e.V. hold copyright to the Nokia Gtk themes (alpha/beta)?18:35
sixwheeledbeastis there some licensing issue with them?19:26

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