| joerg | LOG STRART | 01:08 |
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| joerg | moin! | 14:49 |
| joerg | hey warfare !! :-))) | 14:52 |
| joerg | [24 May 2021 14:53:11] [Notice] -ChanServ- Flags +ARefiorstv were set on warfare in #maemo. | 14:53 |
| joerg | [24 May 2021 14:53:20] [Notice] -ChanServ- Flags +F were set on warfare in #maemo. | 14:53 |
| joerg | [24 May 2021 14:54:24] [Notice] -ChanServ- Flags +AFRefiorstv were set on warfare in #maemo-ssu. | 14:54 |
| bencoh | :) | 14:58 |
| drathir | wth ? | 15:02 |
| bencoh | logs of chanserv permissions, basically meaning that joerg registered the chan and gave full ownership to warfare | 15:04 |
| drathir | bencoh uff i thought fn again go crazy with channels overtake... | 15:05 |
| drathir | bencoh https://lwn.net/Articles/857049/ | 15:05 |
| joerg | drathir: see last post by pabs | 15:12 |
| joerg | actually what I did now is "/cmode +slf 7 #moved_to_libera" which means the 6th and plus user on join gets forwarded to channel #moved_to_libera, and the channel isn't listed in /list anymore | 15:16 |
| joerg | and that's what I recommend doing to FN #maemo* as well | 15:17 |
| joerg | maybe no +s-ecret hidden channel topic and have a friendly "please join us on ircs://irc.libera.chat/${channel}" there instead, this doesn't sound like "cgannel abandoned" | 15:20 |
| drathir | joerg sounds good... | 15:20 |
| KotCzarny | or mention that channel on fn is unofficial and that the official one is on libera | 15:21 |
| KotCzarny | that way you dont ring the 'abandoned' vibe while still providing pointer | 15:21 |
| joerg | no, this is neither correct nor helping since we have no claims on "inofficial" channels | 15:23 |
| drathir | as well i see #maemo on fn is invite only which is good... | 15:23 |
| KotCzarny | hmm, right, # is for official chans | 15:24 |
| joerg | for the >>dont ring the 'abandoned' vibe while still providing pointer<< I suggested a friendly "please join us on ircs://irc.libera.chat/${channel}" | 15:25 |
| drathir | #neo900 works as intended redirect to ##moved_to_libera | 15:26 |
| joerg | and a +l-imit 7 so nobody could argue "only one user = chanserv is identical to 'abandoned' channel" | 15:26 |
| joerg | :-D | 15:27 |
| KotCzarny | still, i hope fn stops existing, one network fewer to have active | 15:27 |
| joerg | note that this only works as long as you're not already member of that redirect destination channel | 15:27 |
| drathir | KotCzarny after whats goin on there its feels definitely unsecure here... | 15:28 |
| joerg | if you try joining a second time while still in ##moved_to_libera you get a >>[notice] channel is full<< | 15:28 |
| KotCzarny | drathir: most of the users probably dont even know something is happening | 15:29 |
| drathir | KotCzarny i know new mod team learns, but not hidding get confused and worried when services just like that get restarted i think yesterday... | 15:29 |
| joerg | same applies if you try to join several channels with forward in sequence, only for first one you get redirected | 15:29 |
| KotCzarny | so there is little chance of that happening (disappearance of fn) | 15:30 |
| KotCzarny | and some channels moved to oftc, eh | 15:30 |
| joerg | anyway while technically it's actually my call to do that forward for maemo, by proper maemo community policy it isn't. I want approving feedback by council and/or warfare to do so | 15:31 |
| drathir | KotCzarny it will be sinking slowly as ghostship... lately gentoo i guess migrated... bigger channels slowly starting moving... waiting for al to migrate... | 15:32 |
| joerg | ##electronics has 200 users already here, 490 on FN | 15:34 |
| drathir | joerg better forward than get channel removed like that w/o any notice by fn... | 15:34 |
| joerg | devuan move is basically completed | 15:34 |
| joerg | like that? like what? | 15:35 |
| drathir | joerg "like that" in mean risk get channel overtaken and deleted, bc of mentioned migration... | 15:36 |
| drathir | joerg redirection in my opinion seems more safe... | 15:37 |
| joerg | yes | 15:37 |
| drathir | hmm centos as well looks like end migration "was kicked from #centos by ChanServ [CLEAR USERS used by Bahhumbug (Gerdesas): See you on libera.]" | 15:46 |
| drathir | https://wiki.freebsd.org/IRC still in transition... | 15:51 |
| drathir | probably lot more in such we watching and decide state... | 15:52 |
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