| gordon1 | so about n900, is there info/investigations of sort about why power management on mainline kernel is 10x worse compared to original freemantle's kernel? Is it because of nokia blob or some PM stuff was broken somewhere during transition from 2.6 to newer kernels? | 14:37 |
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| sicelo | I think this one has been answered a couple of times already | 15:09 |
| sicelo | Mainline (evidently) does have reasonable PM on N900. The trick is making userspace cooperative | 15:10 |
| gordon1 | ah, i see | 15:11 |
| gordon1 | so potentially it is possible for me to achieve 8mA idle consumption if i run pretty much nothing, or does it require some special actions on userspace (e.g. some sort of software power manager)? | 15:12 |
| gordon1 | tbh if it has been answered somewhere, this "somewhere" is really hard to find, i spend days reading through wiki and github issues but the only thing i found is reports of 80 mA power consumption but no information about why is it so much compared to freemantle | 15:16 |
| sicelo | Maybe not 8mA exactly :-) | 15:16 |
| sicelo | You're not untakenstupidnick? | 15:16 |
| KotCzarny | you most likely should be interested in #maemo-leste | 15:16 |
| gordon1 | oh, ok | 15:17 |
| gordon1 | i'll ask there | 15:17 |
| gordon1 | sicelo: well, i didn't try original freemantle on my n900 yet but accroding to maemo wiki it says 7 mA idle/no sim/wlan off https://wiki.maemo.org/N900_Hardware_Power_Consumption | 15:19 |
| gordon1 | and i really want to achieve that at least as proof of concept kind of way with nothing running | 15:19 |
| bencoh | for the record, wiki is probably right | 15:21 |
| bencoh | I can reach ~9mA idle with working sim/modem | 15:22 |
| sicelo | gordon1: we haven't discussed this before? :-) | 15:23 |
| gordon1 | sicelo: no, i am here for first time today | 15:24 |
| gordon1 | and playing with my n900 only for couple of days | 15:24 |
| sicelo | Okay - someone else has been asking exactly same questions | 15:24 |
| gordon1 | right | 15:24 |
| gordon1 | i'm not really surprised, that's kinda of important topic | 15:24 |
| gordon1 | at least IMO | 15:24 |
| sicelo | Yes, it is. I've had a look into it too | 15:28 |
| sicelo | Did you always have the N900, or recently bought? | 16:29 |
| gordon1 | just bought it few days ago | 16:33 |
| sicelo | Okay. Might have considered a Droid 4 | 16:34 |
| gordon1 | trying to move from the age of brickphones to the age of smartphones | 16:34 |
| gordon1 | no, i don't need android | 16:34 |
| gordon1 | i need plain linux with terminal | 16:34 |
| sicelo | Runs mainline with maemo leste | 16:34 |
| gordon1 | oh you mean the phone | 16:35 |
| gordon1 | hmm, maybe | 16:35 |
| gordon1 | battery life? | 16:35 |
| sicelo | Plus the power management is already good with leste | 16:35 |
| gordon1 | looks like it's impossible to find =/ | 16:36 |
| sicelo | US Ebay | 16:36 |
| bencoh | which reminds me I should probably get a second droid4, my usb port might be flakey | 16:37 |
| useretail | is TMO up? | 16:39 |
| sixwheeledbeast | is TMO down? | 16:41 |
| sixwheeledbeast | WFM | 16:41 |
| useretail | for me it's down since ages | 16:44 |
| bencoh | TMO works here | 16:44 |
| useretail | dns record: talk.maemo.org. 60 IN A 213.128.137.28 | 16:45 |
| bencoh | useretail: do you get a "ip banned" message or something? | 16:45 |
| bencoh | same: talk.maemo.org has address 213.128.137.28 | 16:45 |
| useretail | nothing at all | 16:45 |
| bencoh | does it work from another provider? | 16:45 |
| useretail | no idea | 16:45 |
| useretail | but i don't see any reasons why it shouldn't work | 16:46 |
| bencoh | maybe your ip / block got banned for antispam reasons (not you, but maybe some spambot sitting in the same IP block) | 16:47 |
| bencoh | you could try sending a mail to techstaff AT maemo . org | 16:47 |
| useretail | maemo.org works though | 16:47 |
| useretail | is some of techstaff here in this chan? | 16:48 |
| sixwheeledbeast | ~unbanip | 17:01 |
| sixwheeledbeast | oh | 17:01 |
| sixwheeledbeast | yer no bot | 17:01 |
| sixwheeledbeast | gonna take a while to get use to that | 19:14 |
| joerg | indeed | 19:43 |
| joerg | bencoh: http://maemo.muarf.org/apt-mirror/mirror/downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/ssu/apps/ down - was this yours? | 19:45 |
| bencoh | joerg: yeah, muarf.org is down, I still need to setup some apache on another server | 22:15 |
| joerg | o7 | 22:16 |
| bencoh | looks like it crashed somehow, and there is nobody there to restart it, so ... | 22:16 |
| joerg | oh gosh | 22:17 |
| bencoh | I already have a copy of the mirror sompe place else | 22:17 |
| bencoh | -p | 22:17 |
| bencoh | I just need to setup apache/whatever there | 22:17 |
| joerg | and fix the DNS | 22:17 |
| bencoh | yeah | 22:17 |
| joerg | might already want to set rown the update interval | 22:18 |
| joerg | down* | 22:18 |
| bencoh | I think it's already pretty low | 22:18 |
| joerg | didn't look | 22:18 |
| bencoh | (unfortunately) it happened in the past, so I just reconfigure the slave NS as master and change a few entries there when it does | 22:19 |
| bencoh | but I don't have apache ready this time | 22:20 |
| joerg | black magic to me | 22:20 |
| joerg | sort of | 22:20 |
| * bencoh drops the sorcerer's hat and tries hiding the cauldron behind his back | 22:21 | |
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