libera/#maemo/ Tuesday, 2021-06-15

joergFYI02:41
joerg[15 Jun 2021 02:20:30] [Notice] -keitwo- [Global Notice 1/3] We are moving past legacy freenode to a new fork. The new freenode is launched. You will slowly be disconnected and when you reconnect, you will be on the new freenode. We patiently await to welcome you in freedom's holdout - the freenode.02:41
joerg[15 Jun 2021 02:20:41] [Notice] -keitwo- [Global Notice 2/3] If you're looking to connect now, you can already /server chat.freenode.net 6697 (ssl) or 6667 (plaintext). It's a new genesis for a new era. Thank you for using freenode, and Hello World, from the future. freenode is IRC. freenode is FOSS. freenode is freedom.02:41
joerg[15 Jun 2021 02:20:47] [Notice] -keitwo- [Global Notice 3/3] When you connect, register your nickname and your channel and get started. It's a new world. We're so happy to welcome you and the millions of others. We will be posting more information in the coming days on our website and twitter. Otherwise, see you on the other side!02:41
freeteetGus?14:12
enycfreeteet: not sure what Gus is meaning ??!?14:13
freeteetI am looking for him... I could not find him.  But by temporarily taking his name, I found he registered.14:19
freeteetSo I will catch up with him eventually.14:20
freeteetThat is good.14:20
siceloLol, you can find that out without assuming his name14:21
freeteetHmm.  I wonder why it says he's not online though.  I expected him to be here.14:22
siceloThis is not WhatsApp ;-)14:25
drathir_torsicelo: ^^14:32
drathir_torsicelo: \o14:32
siceloHey hi14:32
drathir_torsicelo: ;D definitelly nice to see "old" team around...14:34
siceloMaemo is a uniting force, for life ;-)14:35
drathir_torsicelo: ++14:41
KotCzarnyfun read: https://www.devever.net/~hl/freenode_suicide14:41
drathir_torKotCzarny: yea especially conclusion of users on server ^^ ;p14:41
drathir_torKotCzarny: just personal little castle now... ;p *hides*14:42
KotCzarnyyou can be unprofessional, but not if you want to entice people to use your services :)14:42
drathir_torKotCzarny: to being honest i know thats comming from shady takeover approach (thanks for mods warning all of us) and such overnight changes definitely not helps with transparency same with just wipe the channels out from nowhere and to being honest i really in other scenario not mind mods learning normally, but literally taking ppl from playgound to handle mature network where ppl have just registered14:48
drathir_tornicks or few month old and no one recognise nicks definitely not good sign...14:48
drathir_torKotCzarny: in short still will good remember old good freenode and what happens "after" lets better become a silence after R.I.P. ^^ ;p14:49
KotCzarnyi just dont understand how they wanted to achieve by breaking the fn with every action they took (the new owners)14:49
KotCzarnys/how/what/14:49
netman69tbh i am glad lee pulled the plug, we'll be rid of the fragmentation soon14:51
KotCzarnyhehe14:51
KotCzarnyand bots/idle sessions14:51
netman69i can't imagine they'd like turn around from say yesterday and become the old freenode again14:51
KotCzarnypractically libera got all the active users, and fn just stayed with bots/sessions14:52
netman69so as crazy as people look at it, i think he made the best decision xD14:52
KotCzarnyhehe14:52
KotCzarnyya, it can turn out into positive (i've lost one channel that moved to oftc tho)14:52
netman69even if lee resigned and somehow got the old staff back on freenode, we'd be left fragmented14:53
KotCzarnynah14:53
KotCzarnythey wont be coming back14:53
netman69ofc they want14:53
netman69but the point is that bandaid had to come off eventually, better be sooner than later14:54
KotCzarnyall he can do is give away the domain but retain some ads on the webpage etc14:54
netman69s/want/won't/14:54
KotCzarnyif it happened, there would be libera.chat servers with irc.freenode.com pointing to them14:55
netman69in an ideal world14:55
drathir_torKotCzarny: yea im really willing that "king" just shut it down instead at takeover day than to let made it suffer like that...14:55
netman69current situation is pretty close to that xD14:55
KotCzarny:)14:55
drathir_torKotCzarny: i really would be scared of ppl willing re-register at fn again...14:57
KotCzarnyonly if they must14:57
KotCzarnyor if they didnt hear the neww14:57
KotCzarny*news14:58
drathir_torKotCzarny: even if need admit for a while i thought about secure my nick just in case...14:58
drathir_torKotCzarny: but got to conclusion that not worth a hassle anymore...14:58
KotCzarnyya14:58
KotCzarnyfn is dead, long live libera!14:59
drathir_tor\o/14:59
drathir_tornetman69: even if "king" free the domain i doubt current staff would willing actively use it...15:00
netman69well yeah it's just a hypothetical but rather unlikely situation15:03
drathir_torKotCzarny:  i more would guess "king" will reuse name for some hosting service instead to get profit ;p15:04
KotCzarnyanyway, nice example how not to treat people15:04
drathir_tornetman69: damage was maded to fn and no one after such shady moves take it seriously for  IRC purposes...15:05
netman69exactly my point15:06
netman69thats why its better for lee to fully destroy it15:06
netman69end the limbo15:06
drathir_torKotCzarny: yea or consider users as ppl ^^ ;p15:07
joergalso nice: https://www.theregister.com/2021/06/01/freenode_issues_help_irc_grow/20:25
joerghttps://www.reddit.com/r/irc/comments/o01tmv/freenode_wipes_old_database_and_starts_over/h1sxy13/20:38

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