| ^-^hi | i need quick answer | 06:57 |
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| ^-^hi | how does one record videos on n900? | 06:57 |
| ^-^hi | I can't find it in the camera app | 06:57 |
| Maxdamantus | Change the photo type, probably looks like an "A" symbol by default (for "automatic") | 06:59 |
| sicelo | The white square | 06:59 |
| Maxdamantus | It's the symbol below the "X" button to exit. | 06:59 |
| sicelo | Ah, yes, I'm wrong :-) | 06:59 |
| ^-^hi | hmm... thanks | 07:01 |
| ^-^hi | UI having intuitive symbols matters, I should keep in mind when making stuff | 07:02 |
| ^-^hi | In Ubuntu touch it looks like the designer intentionally wanted to hide everything | 07:03 |
| Maxdamantus | imo add a context menu for figuring out things that are not yet obvious, and include the regular icons in the context menu. | 07:04 |
| Maxdamantus | so people can learn the icon for the action and not have to go into the menu next time. | 07:04 |
| Maxdamantus | just as menus have included things like "ctrl-H" in them for decades | 07:05 |
| ^-^hi | Want to set alarms? Want to change tabs? You should have got divine relevation that it would come up if you swipe down (nothing like scrolling or like that) | 07:05 |
| ^-^hi | With no icon or anything | 07:05 |
| Maxdamantus | I've switched to Android recently and have been trying to figure out how to create a new tab in Chrome in the current tab group if there is currently only one tab. Still haven't figured that out. | 07:06 |
| * Maxdamantus Googles it. | 07:06 | |
| ^-^hi | UI designers have to turn evil if you put them there for a long enough time | 07:06 |
| ^-^hi | Like all sorts of paid people doing software, you get paid to fix stuff, you get paid to fix stuff until you reach "good enough" | 07:07 |
| ^-^hi | But nobody would quit their job because of that. They keep overdoing and redoing stuff until they break it. | 07:08 |
| Maxdamantus | In my experience so far, UI designers tend to be good at making pictures but are not necessarily good at thinking through how UX works. | 07:10 |
| ^-^hi | Correct | 07:13 |
| KotCzarny | worst part is where ui design goes without actual testing on different people | 07:48 |
| KotCzarny | or when feedback is ignored | 07:49 |
| KotCzarny | (mozilla/firefox is a prime example of that) | 07:49 |
| inz | I think UX designers have totally wrong metrics in use | 08:02 |
| inz | Like perceived usability (esp. in speed related questions) and whatever they call the how-addictive-is-this-thing | 08:03 |
| ^-^hi | I should check how KDE decides UI matters. They are so good at this. | 08:08 |
| KotCzarny | i just use fluxbox | 08:08 |
| KotCzarny | ubobtrusive, small, fast, configurable, usable | 08:09 |
| ^-^hi | I use fluxbox very often but I mostly meant the software suit and stuff like that | 08:09 |
| Maxdamantus | I just use xmonad for window management, don't really use any GUIs for system configuration things, other than some audio routing/control (pavucontrol, qjackctl) | 08:12 |
| KotCzarny | xfce is light and usable if you need config/programs suite | 08:13 |
| Maxdamantus | Everything else is either in a web browser, or through a terminal (urxvt, tmux, bash, ...) | 08:13 |
| KotCzarny | and windowsish | 08:13 |
| Maxdamantus | Actually, yeah, I have been using Xfce in some VMs. | 08:13 |
| KotCzarny | so you can actually install it for non-linux users | 08:14 |
| Maxdamantus | where I "standard" system to make it more likely that random programs will work. | 08:14 |
| Maxdamantus | s/I/I want/ | 08:14 |
| inz | Max, I use dwm, st and abduco/dvtm, but conceptually sounds quite familiar | 09:56 |
| Maxdamantus | I was working on improving unicode support in st a while ago with the intention of switching to it. Haven't got around to finishing that. | 10:03 |
| Wizzup | still on wmii here | 10:47 |
| sicelo | sway user here | 12:52 |
| inz | Should probably test dwl or sway at some point. Although switch from X to wl probably breaks everything | 13:35 |
| bencoh | wmii as well :) | 13:50 |
| bencoh | maemo.muarf.org is down again, btw :( | 13:51 |
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