joerg | https://i.imgur.com/P1VUsXA.jpg | 06:16 |
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joerg | https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10612393/TV-editor-runs-Russian-state-TV-sign-saying-Stop-war-Dont-believe-propaganda.html | 07:13 |
KotCzarny | brave woman, pity she will probably be beaten and inprisoned | 07:38 |
joerg | definitely will | 08:10 |
joerg | incredibly brave | 08:11 |
joerg | I wonder what are the _official_ russian reactions in response to that incident. complete censorship? Declare as terrorist, crazy, what? | 08:12 |
joerg | I also wonder if that makes a difference at all for the majority of russian folks | 08:13 |
joerg | I hear 50% are like "Putin is right even when he's wrong" | 08:14 |
KotCzarny | i've read stories that mother didnt believe son which told her over the phone the truth | 08:16 |
KotCzarny | they are brain washed since they are young | 08:16 |
joerg | or bullshit comments like "I think the war was wrong, but now that we started it we better win it" | 08:16 |
joerg | you know you must have fscked up thoroughly when: only 4 nations on this globe say you are right - Belarus, Syria, Eritrea and *NORTH KOREA* | 08:21 |
joerg | Ukraine will recover pretty soon, but Russia bombed itself back into 1950s | 08:22 |
joerg | with no perspective to recover during next 3 generations | 08:23 |
KotCzarny | yes, russia is north korea 2.0 | 08:24 |
KotCzarny | also it's not 0/1 | 08:25 |
KotCzarny | hungary is passively supporting russia too | 08:25 |
KotCzarny | similar with israel and china | 08:25 |
KotCzarny | money at work | 08:25 |
joerg | [14 Mar 2022 15:40:44] <DocScrutinizer> >>Israel announces publicly for the first time it will comply with the international sanctions against Russia. FM Lapid says "Israel won't be used as a means to bypass the sanctions on Russia"<< | 08:26 |
KotCzarny | war started ~24 feb, took them long enough | 08:27 |
joerg | :nod: | 08:27 |
KotCzarny | and most likely because of usa pressuring them to do so | 08:28 |
joerg | quite likely | 08:29 |
joerg | I hope learning about decoy in https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/14/us/russia-ukraine-weapons-decoy.html will help to improve the air defense so they can take out 30/30 instead only 22/30 of such - and similar - missiles | 08:33 |
joerg | NATO _cant_ implement a no-fly zone in Ukraine. The Ukrainians need to do that | 08:34 |
joerg | 22/30 (Lviv) is not bad but not good enough yet | 08:35 |
joerg | >><KotCzarny> money at work<< the question is how much money Putin has left over for such "games", and how much it will be in a month, in halv a year and in 5 years | 08:41 |
KotCzarny | they've said russia gathered few hundred mld usd | 08:42 |
KotCzarny | roughly half of that was frozen by sanctions | 08:42 |
joerg | China is interested in business more than anything else - for now - and Russia isn't making much money for China. USA and Europe does | 08:42 |
KotCzarny | which still leaves quite a lot for operations | 08:42 |
joerg | the jury is still out on that. Russia announced they will pay back their credits in Rubel | 08:43 |
KotCzarny | there is a high chance they wont pay anything | 08:44 |
KotCzarny | and just declare bankruptcy | 08:44 |
joerg | so a high chance Russia gets declared bankrupt this week | 08:44 |
joerg | gets tough for Russia, they "money" they think they still have seems to not help them out | 08:45 |
joerg | their* | 08:45 |
KotCzarny | putin is set on destroying ukraine anyway | 08:46 |
KotCzarny | it's a pet peeve of his | 08:46 |
joerg | while he looks at ukraine, he's tearing down his own country with his ass | 08:46 |
KotCzarny | he is a dead man anyway | 08:47 |
joerg | yep | 08:47 |
KotCzarny | and he hates ukrain with all his guts | 08:47 |
joerg | a few days ago I said: he stepped on the mine and heard the click | 08:47 |
joerg | he can't lift his foot now | 08:47 |
joerg | nah, I think he's afraid of Ukraine and the liberty mindset growing there. He couldn't handle it when that leaks into Russia | 08:48 |
joerg | he stops that change in mindset in Belarus and in Russia by all means, in Ukraine he failed to see it coming | 08:49 |
KotCzarny | it would be that way if not the orange revolution few years back | 08:50 |
joerg | and now he thinks he could roll back there, but what he accomplishes is the exact opposite | 08:50 |
joerg | Ukraine hates Putin more than ever, and that won't change and he won't achieve the goal to make Ukraine a part of "Great Russia" again. Meanwhile he already causes same "trouble" he tries to stop, in his own country | 08:52 |
joerg | dead man fighting his last battle | 08:53 |
KotCzarny | lets hope he wont replace nuclear trigger holders with his puppets | 08:54 |
joerg | I think he already did | 08:56 |
joerg | but, like Zelensky(?) said: >>Putin, you don't need atomic missiles to kill yourself, why don't you do like the old man in Berlin, in the bunker?<< | 08:58 |
KotCzarny | they say the old man lived and it was staged | 08:59 |
joerg | that's evidently a lie | 08:59 |
KotCzarny | nowadays you have many more ways to fake a death | 08:59 |
joerg | if Putin was any smart, or at least less idiotic, he would fake a cerebral infarct and pass the government role to his successor. Though I doubt there's _any_ successor that would not sue Putin into oblivion | 09:01 |
KotCzarny | he is a psychopath | 09:02 |
KotCzarny | it's not an idiot | 09:02 |
KotCzarny | just with his own logic | 09:02 |
joerg | nah, he been a psychopath all his life, last 10 years he simply went crazy or paranoic or whatever. Look how abysmally poor that war been organized | 09:04 |
KotCzarny | war was organized fine, it's just he wasn't accepting truth, so he was fed with lies instead | 09:05 |
KotCzarny | :) | 09:05 |
joerg | it would be ridiculous if it wasn't so devastating | 09:05 |
joerg | yes, exactly | 09:05 |
joerg | psychopath lacks empathy, idiot lacks sense of reality | 09:06 |
KotCzarny | you think of schizophrenia | 09:06 |
joerg | Nah, I don't think Putin is schizoid | 09:06 |
KotCzarny | he lives in his own world because his services feed him with lies | 09:07 |
joerg | paranoid, or maybe senile, whatever | 09:07 |
KotCzarny | kind of induced schizophrenia | 09:07 |
joerg | the other way around ;-) | 09:07 |
KotCzarny | anyway, he is still dangerous | 09:08 |
joerg | his services feed him with lies because he wasn't accepting truth, so he was fed with lies instead | 09:08 |
joerg | like the berlin idiot with the stiff arm | 09:09 |
joerg | though that one actually always greeted like putting an invisible shot | 09:10 |
joerg | 9 pund | 09:10 |
joerg | pound | 09:10 |
joerg | olympic | 09:11 |
KotCzarny | at least german nation wasnt so sloppy and corrupted | 09:11 |
KotCzarny | so it worked for a while | 09:11 |
joerg | aah shot-putter is the term | 09:12 |
joerg | https://eu-browse.startpage.com/av/anon-image?piurl=https%3A%2F%2Fstatic.akpool.de%2Fimages%2Fcards%2F6%2F69295.jpg&sp=1647332082T7709862005813822f0053d73fe8158d17f3a833924eaf7996f4df297cc101b15 https://eu-browse.startpage.com/av/anon-image?piurl=https%3A%2F%2Fimages.theconversation.com%2Ffiles%2F14218%2Foriginal%2Fnp5xthtv-1344908166.jpg%3Fixlib%3Drb-1.1.0%26q%3D45%26auto%3Dformat%26w%3D1200%26h%3D1200.0%26fit%3Dcrop& | 09:15 |
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