| Joerg-Neo900 | to summarize: [2018-06-13 23:18:58] <houkime> I wasn't first of all because it is not subscribable (at least I haven't found a way to do it which means people are not likely to) + many other small things. [...] subscription is important. <houkime> I mean to have nice email notifications about any issue progress <Joerg-Neo900> I get email notifications <houkime> I'm thinking about people right now <houkime> We're not in a situation to make a | 00:02 |
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| Joerg-Neo900 | proud pose and set high barriers. [...] It is about your attitude towards the work you're doing | 00:02 |
| Joerg-Neo900 | I think my attitude towards what I'm doing is OK. If you think it isn't then sorry, it probably won't change | 00:04 |
| houkime | http://projects.goldelico.com/p/neo900/issues/ Where do you see a button to subscribe, Joerg? | 00:08 |
| houkime | and I do have an account there. | 00:09 |
| houkime | well. The thing is I don't really ask you to do anything since i have already learnt that it is futile. | 00:12 |
| houkime | I do everything myself. You just asked what is wrong with the way it is now. | 00:12 |
| Joerg-Neo900 | it's definitely futile to insult me | 00:15 |
| houkime | Sorry for that. Though I don't have real anger problems anymore irritation makes me straightforward. | 00:19 |
| houkime | +1 to make things comfy so people are less nervous. | 00:20 |
| houkime | plan for tomorrow - resize UPPER (actually tempted to just copypast edgecut of LOWER) so that it matches LOWER size-wize and LOWER can be mapped onto it with a transform. Make transforms from stl to UPPER and from LOWER to UPPER. Adjust all UPPER things that have a fixed place so that they follow stl. | 03:55 |
| houkime | map a cam copy from LOWER to UPPER. | 03:57 |
| houkime | And later connectors should also be mapped. Probably keyboard will be flexing more -_-x than -_-y so vertical connector is not really vulnerable to this in addition to providing some support to reduce flexing when placed partly in the keyboard area. | 03:59 |
| houkime | do we need mounting holes on UPPER or it is purely connector-fixed? | 04:02 |
| houkime | funny thing that this metal bar on the top surface of pcb can also have sth to do with providing additional stiffness -_-x axis. | 04:04 |
| houkime | adjusted UPPER. Made finger openings. Made Made lower2upper transform. | 20:29 |
| ravelo | houkime: really great to read about your achievements | 21:23 |
| houkime | ravelo: thx. however any emerging problem can ruin all efforts. | 21:35 |
| ravelo | Ok | 21:36 |
| ravelo | :S | 21:36 |
| ravelo | What are the main risks? Space restriction? Electrical layouting problems? | 21:38 |
| houkime | yep, and it is worst when you didn't foresee it aforehead, like Joerg and Werner failed to foresee a usb colliding with connector which nulliified some work done and became a huge headache. | 21:41 |
| houkime | because remaining space was not enogh to have a configuration even nerly as it was in docs | 21:42 |
| houkime | (partly because of an sd card holder on the other side of BoB) | 21:43 |
| houkime | and now I foresee huge troubles with sims. | 21:44 |
| houkime | Basicaly both of them are more or less fixed in place by case or other reason | 21:45 |
| Joerg-Neo900 | no challenge no fame | 21:45 |
| houkime | and you can't really even place esds on the one of them which is under the modem without moving the modem a bit. | 21:46 |
| ravelo | Maybe time to simplify it, to reduce those risks? | 21:53 |
| ravelo | As I already said, I don't like the all or nothing approach | 21:54 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | I don't like the Mit looks difficult so lets simplify it before even trying' approach | 21:56 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | the prototypes are menat to see what can be done, not to p.ay safe | 21:57 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | please rethink your definition of 'risk' | 21:58 |
| ravelo | Ok | 21:59 |
| ravelo | Risk: Invest a lot of time in layouting to find out in the end that it's not possible | 21:59 |
| ravelo | Than doing refactoring and again find out it's not possible because of another restriction | 22:00 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | when tou don't want to invest work to achieve the best possible result, this project is clearly yoo risky for you | 22:01 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | sorry no glasses, this doesn't work anymore like it usd to. BBL | 22:02 |
| ravelo | I always forget this is still a Prototype | 22:03 |
| ravelo | So you might be right | 22:04 |
| houkime | Planning ahead is what Im trying to do right now to not get caught in the corner. Even started a bit of a tool on that. | 22:05 |
| houkime | and an issue board (besides publicity) is also a thing to help first of all ME to have all painspots in one accessible place in order not to forget anything. | 22:06 |
| Joerg-Neo900 | that's a very valid purpose | 23:02 |
| Joerg-Neo900 | ravelo: have you ever read the "Why you can't innovate like Apple"? | 23:12 |
| Joerg-Neo900 | https://www.pragmaticmarketing.com/resources/articles/you-cant-innovate-like-apple | 23:14 |
| Joerg-Neo900 | ravelo: btw when you do a large project, say a transcontinental street, then you first project and possibly even build the most difficult and risky parts like bridges and tunnels. You don't "Invest a lot of time in [asphalting] to find out in the end that it's not possible" | 23:52 |
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