libera/#neo900/ Monday, 2019-02-25

DocScrutinizer05I finally come to the conclusion that it's totally pointless to try and develop and produce and sell hardware without a solid funding upfront12:48
norly:(12:52
DocScrutinizer05UMPH WHAT?  >>The Cosmo is based on the powerful Mediatek P70 8-core processor plus separate GPU and AI processors.<<12:53
DocScrutinizer05separate GPU ?12:53
DocScrutinizer05AI processors? lol12:54
DocScrutinizer05anyway https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/cosmo-communicator/payments/new#/checkout12:54
norlythey process your AI. it's like a food processor, but for AI12:55
DocScrutinizer05can do this since >>This campaign has built only a working demo of their product, not the final product. Earlier this year,  we successfully delivered our Gemini PDA product to more than 7000 Indiegogo backers<<12:56
norlyi'd like to know what they really are though12:56
DocScrutinizer05LOL  >>LTE World-wide modem (Cat.7 DL / Cat. 13 UL )<<13:01
DocScrutinizer05where to find out *when* a campaign got started on indiegogo?13:11
DocScrutinizer05maybe >>posted by Planet Computers  Nov 5, 2018 • 7:09PM "Cosmo reaches Indiegogo funding goal in 4 hours!"<< ?13:12
DocScrutinizer05(LTE) aaah yep  >>The LTE final band list is not finalised and we will publish as soon as we have it. <<13:35
dos1that Mediatek processor has LTE integrated AFAIK15:12
Joerg-Neo900sure15:12
Joerg-Neo900hard to find a SoC without, nowadays15:12
dos1business idea: take SoCs and sell them as standalone LTE modules :v15:14
* dos1 starts to wonder if this joke isn't actually a sensible thing15:17
norlydos1: we kinda joked about that a few days ago already... i think joerg suggested running such a SoC not only as a baseband, but as a full android phone inside a mobile computer15:19
DocScrutinizer51witd display in a VNC window15:36
norlythough15:37
norlywe should probably have a SoC as baseband, then a SoC for android, then another SoC for the linux computer15:37
norlyso we're already at 3 SoCs15:38
DocScrutinizer51wouldn't spend a soc for android15:38
Joerg-Neo900fold-able displays - my dream comes true @ MWC16:13
hallynyeah those look nice16:43
hallynbut where does my physical kbd go16:43
hallynon the back, as a two-handed backside kbd?16:44
hallynlike the old twiddler?16:44
Joerg-Neo900that's an orthogonal problem that actually doesn't change much from former/recent formfactor designs to future folded display16:45
Joerg-Neo900right?16:46
Joerg-Neo900I'm still deeply in love with properly integrated detachable slider kbd16:46
hallynwould be tough to properly weight a 6" square (is that about what it is?) foldable device with detached slider kbd, i would think.  but then, no way would ppl be willing to learn how to use a backside kbd,18:21
hallyni suppose it could detach when folded, and when unfolded you resign yourself to a bt kbd18:22
* sicelo fails to see the use/benefit of folding displays19:01
hallyneasy to carry in pocket, yet useful display?  phone display sizes are silly19:03
sicelooh well - i don't know much about hardware, but imo, anything that folds has inherent disadvantage of limited life. i guess i'm more inclined to trust a mechanical hinge instead of folding the screen itself19:16
Joerg-Neo900hallyn: the "detachable" is meant for semi-persistent device configuration. For use slide out19:17
Joerg-Neo900about mass balancing (without considering the yet new folded-display) I thought to detach the battery+camera layer from the sandwich, attach the slider-kbd (slide mech on upside of kbd) and re-attach the bat+cam layer to bottom of kbd19:19
Joerg-Neo900for camera it might even have a 15mm wide "bar" that isn't "split" into layers and doesn't slide out with kbd or detach with battery layer19:21

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