Beerbelott1 | Err:1 http://deb.devuan.org/merged ascii-security/main amd64 libpq5 amd64 9.6.15-0+deb9u1 404 Not Found [IP: 2001:4ca0:4300::1:22 80] E: Failed to fetch http://debian.bio.lmu.de/debian-security/pool/updates/main/p/postgresql-9.6/libpq5_9.6.15-0+deb9u1_amd64.deb 404 Not Found [IP: 2001:4ca0:4300::1:22 80] | 02:14 |
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Beerbelott1 | Has anyone else got a problem with that mirror? | 02:14 |
gnarface | does it persist? | 02:15 |
gnarface | some transient errors can be expected while the mirrors update | 02:16 |
gnarface | don't panic unless it persists | 02:16 |
Beerbelott1 | Well how long shall I wait to accept that as decent? | 02:17 |
Beerbelott1 | to consider that as not decent* | 02:18 |
Beerbelott1 | sentence logic reversed :D | 02:18 |
gnarface | well, it depends on what they're doing to it. normally i would just have the round-robin entry in my sources, and i would just retry to get another mirror. i wouldn't bother complaining to anyone unless i saw the same package error twice. | 02:32 |
gnarface | how long has it persisted so far? and are you only using that one mirror? | 02:32 |
gnarface | if it's just one package on one mirror, and it's been gone for more than a few minutes something might be up. more than a few days - something is definitely up. | 02:33 |
gnarface | if you try again right now and it's fine though, probably they were just actually copying a new version of it to the server at that moment and you got unlucky | 02:33 |
gnarface | there have been some weirder problems with dns stuff and amprolla redirects and outdated mirrors and such, but that is more rare | 02:34 |
Beerbelott1 | Just retried | 02:52 |
Beerbelott1 | to no avail | 02:52 |
gnarface | you did run like "apt-get update" first, right? | 02:52 |
Beerbelott1 | Almost 40 minutes now | 02:53 |
Beerbelott1 | update & upgrade chained, as always | 02:53 |
Beerbelott1 | using deb.devuan.org as APT source | 02:53 |
gnarface | ... | 02:53 |
Beerbelott1 | Is there a way to force RR other then cheating with /etc/hosts? | 02:53 |
gnarface | deb.devuan.org is the RR | 02:54 |
Beerbelott1 | I know | 02:54 |
gnarface | i think the answer is no but i don't know for sure | 02:55 |
Beerbelott1 | Unless I try to control resolution be cheating it, it seems deb.devuan.org consistently sends me back to that mirror | 02:55 |
gnarface | weird | 02:55 |
gnarface | maybe it is the dns? | 02:55 |
Beerbelott1 | Huh? | 02:55 |
Beerbelott1 | What do you mean? | 02:55 |
gnarface | well i get like a good dozen ip addresses back for that host | 02:56 |
gnarface | run "nslookup deb.devuan.org" what do you get? | 02:56 |
Beerbelott1 | Wait, there is sth fishy here | 02:57 |
Beerbelott1 | another mirror failed on the same package | 02:57 |
Beerbelott1 | E: Failed to fetch http://mirrors.dotsrc.org/debian-security/pool/updates/main/p/postgresql-9.6/libpq5_9.6.15-0+deb9u1_amd64.deb 404 Not Found [IP: 2001:878:346::116 80] | 02:58 |
gnarface | interesting | 02:58 |
Beerbelott1 | what the... | 02:58 |
gnarface | uh oh | 02:58 |
gnarface | looks bad | 02:58 |
gnarface | 200.236.31.1 | 02:58 |
gnarface | check that one | 02:58 |
Beerbelott1 | I got a 404 from my machine | 02:59 |
Beerbelott1 | I don't think I'll get anything else from my remote | 02:59 |
Beerbelott1 | http://200.236.31.1/debian-security/pool/updates/main/p/postgresql-9.6/libpq5_9.6.15-0+deb9u1_amd64.deb | 02:59 |
gnarface | i wonder where it went? | 02:59 |
gnarface | one package had a problem before... | 02:59 |
gnarface | a problem with amprolla? | 03:00 |
gnarface | well | 03:00 |
Beerbelott1 | Well resolving w/ the IP address seems to lead nowhere | 03:00 |
fsmithred | I just downloaded the package from pkgmaster | 03:00 |
Beerbelott1 | http://mirrors.dotsrc.org/debian-security/pool/updates/main/p/postgresql-9.6/ is OK | 03:00 |
Beerbelott1 | http://200.236.31.1/debian-security/pool/updates/main/p/postgresql-9.6/ is not | 03:00 |
gnarface | if it he package is unchanged from debian, it could be a debian issue? | 03:00 |
fsmithred | after an uupdate. No problem with either | 03:00 |
Beerbelott1 | mb sth related to propagation (rsync or otherwise)? | 03:01 |
Jjp137 | according to this, 9.6.15 was just accepted really recently: https://tracker.debian.org/postgresql-9.6 | 03:01 |
Jjp137 | so maybe you got (un)lucky and the Debian mirror doesn't have it yet | 03:01 |
fsmithred | maybe. The lmu repo has 5.9.13 | 03:01 |
fsmithred | sory | 03:02 |
fsmithred | 9.6.13 | 03:02 |
Beerbelott1 | Well so far that's 2 repos out of sync | 03:02 |
Beerbelott1 | I'll try to continue playing Russian roulette 'til I'm lucky or dead | 03:02 |
Jjp137 | yea I actually was on packages.debian.org and it said 9.6.13 for a bit and then I refreshed the page and now it's 9.6.15 | 03:03 |
fsmithred | you're using deb.devuan.org in sources.list? | 03:03 |
Jjp137 | (on the website, not using it in sources.list, in case someone gets the wrong idea :p) | 03:03 |
fsmithred | yeah, I was using a browser, too | 03:03 |
fsmithred | to look | 03:03 |
fsmithred | used apt-get to download | 03:04 |
fsmithred | and got the newer version | 03:04 |
Beerbelott1 | fsmithred: Yes, deb.devuan.org, and so far the 2 tested mirrors are fail | 03:04 |
Beerbelott1 | It's interesting update got info on the new package while retrieving it is not possible | 03:07 |
Beerbelott1 | Does that mean my update was lucky? | 03:07 |
Beerbelott1 | or might this be a sign of difference index vs content? | 03:08 |
ServiceRobot | greetings superiors! | 03:09 |
Beerbelott1 | Well. I'll sleep on it ;) | 03:11 |
gnarface | hmmmm... could it be a ipv6 issue? | 03:16 |
Jjp137 | it's probably that the Debian mirror that they were sent to didn't have that version of the package yet, since it was just accepted very recently | 03:18 |
gnarface | so it's "lucky" | 03:19 |
Jjp137 | yeah lol | 03:19 |
andy5995 | The "maintain a package" link mentioned at https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=1380#p1380 is broken. Anybody know the correct one? Thanks | 06:26 |
golinux | andy5995: We pulled the d1h walk through because it was outdated. I thought we had removed all references to it. I'll remove that one now. | 07:09 |
golinux | Unfortunately, there is no replacement available. | 07:09 |
golinux | Done. Thanks for catching that | 07:12 |
andy5995 | welcome. | 07:13 |
ServiceRobot | hey peeps | 07:54 |
debdog | anyone else missing the mouse pointer on beowulf's xfce4? | 14:08 |
debdog | could this be kernel related? Linux amilo 3.2.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.2.78-1 x86_64 GNU/Linux | 14:09 |
debdog | to be clear, the mouse pointer is invisible but working | 14:12 |
debdog | same with lightdem, slim and fluxbox. so definitely no xfce4 issue | 14:40 |
debdog | prolly a kernel, driver, something issue after all | 14:41 |
errandir1 | maybe the colour mask is making it transparant. wouldn't know how to fix that, I have not seen this. | 14:47 |
debdog | hehe, pun intended? | 14:51 |
debdog | ok, with beowulf's kernel the cursor is visible but the other problem came back | 14:55 |
debdog | now the laptop does not halt/reboot properly, just hangs there at shutdown when poweroff/reboot is called. | 14:57 |
debdog | been fighting this issue for weeks now and the only solution I found was to use that elderly kernel | 14:57 |
errandir1 | no pun intended, but a happy accident | 15:15 |
fsmithred | debdog, is elogind installed? | 15:17 |
debdog | fsmithred: no, consolekit is. but,in this case, I sort of doubt that's related | 15:21 |
debdog | I'll take some pictures.... | 15:21 |
xe-non | I just migrate to devuan acii , network and audio isn't working | 15:32 |
xe-non | https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/5e9Dek03/20190809_185808.jpg | 15:32 |
fsmithred | xe-non, is there an interface name in that pic? I can't read it. | 15:35 |
fsmithred | if you switched from debian to devuan (and from udev to eudev) then inteface names have changed. enps-whatever is now eth0 | 15:36 |
emdete | fsmithred: btw: can you explain (or link to) what this enps naming is coming from? i never understood the meaning of the name... | 15:39 |
fsmithred | emdete, google for 'predictable interface names' and get the explanation on Lennart's blog. | 15:40 |
fsmithred | I think... en for ethernet, s for slot, p for ? | 15:41 |
fsmithred | it gets named accordiing to where the network card is plugged into the motherboard | 15:41 |
emdete | 😲 | 15:41 |
fsmithred | so that the names can't change on next boot | 15:41 |
fsmithred | and you can predict what the name will be | 15:41 |
fsmithred | I guess by opening the box and looking | 15:41 |
emdete | you could better use the mac address for that 😉 | 15:42 |
fsmithred | lol | 15:42 |
fsmithred | um, on some wireless dongles, it does that | 15:42 |
fsmithred | ifup wlx-83983743986-351045719 ;d.gn; bogur-2h5n | 15:42 |
fsmithred | predictable != memorable | 15:43 |
fsmithred | I gotta go. bbl. | 15:43 |
drawkula | at least its shorter than new onion addresses ;-) | 15:43 |
debdog | turns out taking screenshots is harder than expected... | 15:48 |
debdog | http://beggabaur.rocks/Bilder/amilo_beowulf_4.19_halt.jpg and http://beggabaur.rocks/Bilder/amilo_beowulf_4.19_reboot.jpg | 15:48 |
emdete | ah, systemd/udev actually does it: enx78e7d1ea46da | 15:49 |
r3boot | huh? how do you configure that?? | 15:49 |
r3boot | on arch, you still have the predictable interface names | 15:49 |
r3boot | https://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/systemd.net-naming-scheme.html (btw) | 15:50 |
emdete | manually... fourth option they provide, you create a conf for that | 15:51 |
xe-non | https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/uIBmNugO/20190809_192236.jpg | 15:53 |
xe-non | https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/LapJ2UMi/20190809_192402.jpg | 15:54 |
xe-non | fsmithred: Is it clear? | 15:56 |
errandir1 | xe-non: best check in 'ifconfig -a' if you have an IP address | 16:32 |
errandir1 | Can't help with pulseaudio, I don't use that | 16:32 |
xe-non | errandir1: what are you use? | 16:36 |
xe-non | As pulseaudio ? | 16:37 |
xe-non | ifconfig -a https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/QyVXUnkv/20190809_200837.jpg | 16:39 |
errandir1 | I use ALSA, and sometimes jack. To check ALSA run 'aplay -l' | 16:39 |
xe-non | aplay -l https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/S5VLv22H/20190809_201224.jpg | 16:43 |
errandir1 | So your eth0 does not have an IP adress, which I guess you would use for networking | 16:43 |
errandir1 | maybe your /etc/network/interfaces still have the old inferface name? | 16:45 |
errandir1 | Regarding aplay: that looks fine. So your hardware is recognised and if functional. | 16:46 |
xe-non | network/interface https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/bNc6wSDk/20190809_202042.jpg | 16:52 |
xe-non | interfaces.d is empty | 16:53 |
errandir1 | There is no external network configured at all in /etc/network/interfaces. Do you know what you used before you migrated? | 16:57 |
xe-non | wlan0 | 17:00 |
errandir1 | ok, you should add that into /etc/network/interfaces then, using lines like 'auto wlan0' and 'iface wlan0 inet dhcp' | 17:33 |
xe-non | How to restart network??? | 18:03 |
errandir1 | Once that is in doing 'ifup wlan0' should bring up the interface | 18:07 |
xe-non | thanks it worked https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/oViOFV5K/Screenshot_2019-08-09_21-54-37.png | 18:26 |
andy5995 | Is there a recommended way to upgrade from Debian Stretch to Devuan ASCII? | 21:54 |
fsmithred | https://devuan.org/os/documentation/dev1fanboy/migrate-to-ascii | 21:56 |
andy5995 | thanks | 22:05 |
drizzt | hello everyone ! | 22:12 |
drizzt | I'm currently working on getting a devuan ceres with latest kernel on an orangepi zero board | 22:13 |
drizzt | I have a working system (though support is incomplete, no Wifi yet) | 22:13 |
drizzt | I have created a small program to solve the very late crng init problem (which is reported here : https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=1857729 and here : https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=912087 and here : https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/4167) | 22:20 |
drizzt | it is not limited to systemd systems, and the programm I wrote is dedicated to sysvinit users | 22:21 |
drizzt | http://www.nathael.org/Data/Devel/entropy_pool_init.c | 22:21 |
drizzt | I'll write a little "how to use it" | 22:21 |
drizzt | and it could be integrated in a devuan package (new or existing one) | 22:22 |
drizzt | If you're interested in devuan ceres on orange pi zero with latest kernel, you can read the informations I gathered here : http://www.nathael.org/wiki_cpe/index.php/Dev/OPiZero/From_Scratch | 22:23 |
golinux | drizzt: You should post that on #devuan-arm too | 22:38 |
dacav | Hello :) I've installed devuan on my raspberry (3b), and it seems to work (it boots, it gets an IP address from dnsmasq, I can see it has ssh open). I'd like to log in, but sshd hangs up as soon as I try. Ssh allows root login (I could see it by mounting the micro-sd and looking at /etc/sshd_config), but just to rule that problem out, I've added a non-privileged user. No luck. Also I'm not managing to | 23:16 |
dacav | use my USB-TTL for serial console access. Do you have any hint? | 23:16 |
dacav | I have to go, but I leave dacav_ connected, to catch any kind hint :) Bye | 23:24 |
* dacav_ here | 23:24 | |
stiltr | dacav_: You may have better luck on #devuan-arm. That's where the Pi stuff gets talked about. Granted it's pretty quiet most of the time. Are you using the Pi3 image from devuan or did you cook it yourself? | 23:27 |
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