xrogaan | I need a good feed reader software. QuiteRSS has some issues and I can't figure out the code because everything is in Russian. | 04:16 |
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onefang | Have you tried Liferea? | 04:19 |
xrogaan | Liferea doesn't have a filtering system, so I'd need to write my own fetcher and filter out whatever is crap before liferea gets it. | 04:20 |
xrogaan | it's really annoying :P | 04:25 |
onefang | Maybe you could use a web proxy to do the filtering? I remember doing that with squid for schools long ago. | 04:28 |
xrogaan | you can set a local file as feed in liferea | 04:35 |
xrogaan | so I could just write a python script that download a remote, parse it and create a new local one. | 04:35 |
xrogaan | then contrab | 04:35 |
xrogaan | crontab* | 04:36 |
chomwitt | good morning from greece | 09:08 |
chomwitt | why chkconfig is not available? | 09:09 |
debdog | probably because it's not in debian either. just the bash completion thingy is there https://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=contents&keywords=chkconfig&mode=exactfilename&suite=stable&arch=any | 09:16 |
chomwitt | i guess debian removed it due to systemd used ? | 09:37 |
debdog | probably | 09:37 |
chomwitt | i mean are there alternatives to chkconfig in sysvinit systems? | 09:37 |
lcufer | what do you want to accomplish chomwitt | 09:38 |
chomwitt | i was reading a book on sysadmin | 09:38 |
chomwitt | and has many examples on sysvinit | 09:39 |
chomwitt | and i'd like to do them | 09:39 |
* debdog just alters the links in /etc/rcX.d/ directly | 09:39 | |
* Humpelstilzchen is using update-rc.d | 09:40 | |
lcufer | yes | 09:40 |
lcufer | inittab specifies the runlevel you want to start in, then /etc/rc[number].d specifies what to start or not, in which order | 09:41 |
chomwitt | who would you replicate $chkcongig --list ? | 09:41 |
lcufer | i don't know that utility so you will have to say what you want to achieve | 09:42 |
rrq | chomwitt: maybe rcconf is an alternative | 09:42 |
chomwitt | that command show all services available and the runlevel they belong to in a raw table | 09:42 |
chomwitt | rrq: one moment to check | 09:43 |
debdog | chomwitt: you might be able to just dpkg -i an older package from debian http://archive.debian.org/debian/pool/main/c/chkconfig/ | 09:44 |
debdog | depending on its depandencies | 09:44 |
debdog | *depen.. | 09:45 |
lcufer | i'd use 'ls' | 09:46 |
chomwitt | lcufer: you mean just read the contents on all dirs and see from their filename where they belong? | 09:49 |
]BFG[ | i wonder when will debian remove all the /etc/init.d/* scripts :P | 09:51 |
lcufer | ls -r -d -1 /etc/rc*/{*,.*} |grep [service you are interested in, like ssh] | 09:52 |
rrq | lcufer: I think you are floating on old knowledge; since a fair while ago, there is an additional "Makefile based" layer on top of it, which makes it slightly different | 09:57 |
lcufer | i am old | 09:57 |
rrq | there is a "service --status-all" command that offers the listing that chomwitt asked for | 09:58 |
lcufer | can service --status-all show "the runlevel they belong to"? | 09:59 |
lcufer | *how can | 09:59 |
rrq | no it doesn't .. not sure of anything better than your ls, although it might bring false positives | 10:00 |
chomwitt | rrconf has a cool ncurses text based interface | 10:01 |
rrq | mmm if "cool" and "ncurses" can be used in the same sentence, yes | 10:02 |
chomwitt | its seems by searching in the net , that chkconfig must have been more redhat related. | 10:03 |
onefang | sysv-rc-conf might be useful to. | 10:03 |
chomwitt | i read an article from 2007 suggesting rcconf for debian for more ''convenient'' servive manipulation | 10:04 |
onefang | I can't find any rrconf package in Devuan ASCII. | 10:04 |
Humpelstilzchen | onefang: rcconf | 10:05 |
lcufer | clearly the /etc tree needs to be in a binary database accessible only through touch-gui without using a keyboard | 10:05 |
chomwitt | so i guess i try to stick and do my learning with rrconf and update-rc.d and having more lowlevel options like the ones proposed from lcufer in the back of my mind. thanks. | 10:05 |
rrq | onefang: cool ;) | 10:06 |
* onefang installs rcconf to check it out. | 10:06 | |
onefang | Think I'll stick with sysv-rc-conf. B-) | 10:08 |
rrq | lcufer: that "Makefile based extension" uses /etc/init.d/.depend.* | 10:08 |
rrq | .. and I think that a facility must be mentioned there to actually be enabled | 10:09 |
lcufer | i've never had to do anything but enable or disable services in rc tree | 10:10 |
rrq | yeah I lost a bit of hair learning that making a link in rc2 is not enough... I have gladly forgotten most about it by now though :) | 10:13 |
lcufer | things work best if kept simple when possible, adding complexity only when needed | 10:15 |
rrq | with "update-rc.d" all required incantations are voiced | 10:15 |
rrq | lcufer: +1 | 10:20 |
chomwitt | onefang: i check also sysv-rc-conf. i've set up a vps with devuan and i want to find the tools that suit me the most | 10:33 |
chomwitt | speeking of which , in my devuan vps do i need services like : alsa-utils , avahi-daemon , slim , wicd ? | 10:34 |
chomwitt | or speech-dispatcher ? | 10:35 |
lcufer | will you run an x server on it chomwitt ? | 10:47 |
lcufer | if not, i would disable or uninstall all those | 10:48 |
chomwitt | no | 11:23 |
chomwitt | its just an vps mainly for webserver | 11:24 |
avbox | does bluetooth work with devuan beowulf? | 12:56 |
lcufer | i don't know, but the kernel supports bluetooth modules | 12:58 |
avbox | lcufer: I get connections, but after 2 seconds, it does disconnect. Any ideas? | 13:00 |
lcufer | i have no experience with bluetooth on linux sorry | 13:00 |
r3boot | avbox: enable debugging in the bluez stack and try again. Linux + BT has worked for 10yrs already | 13:11 |
avbox | @r3boot: I find lot of info about adding debugging for debian, but not for devuan. A hint? | 13:19 |
r3boot | you can (re)use most of the debugging info for debian and apply it to devuan. They're not that different. | 13:22 |
avbox | r3boot: Doe I have to add debug mode when starting /etc/init.d/bluetooth with the option '-d'? | 13:32 |
r3boot | avbox: thats one way of doing it, but personally, I'd run the command specified in /etc/init.d/bluetooth by hand, in a terminal, as root | 13:43 |
r3boot | Eg, something like running '/usr/sbin/bluez -d' as root in a terminal + capturing the output | 13:43 |
topro | hi there, just realized that installing latest ascii-backports kernel 4.19.0-0.bpo.6-686-pae obviously removes dependency on irqbalance as apt autoremove would like to remove it. is this on purpose or possibly wrong? | 14:00 |
r3boot | topro: irqbalance functionality is handled by the kernel since (forgot which kernel version). So there should be no need to run irqbalance at all | 14:01 |
topro | oh ok, good to know :) | 14:02 |
r3boot | You can validate this by monitoring /proc/interrupts btw. Boot, wait a while, verify that interrupts get nicely scheduled across cores | 14:02 |
topro | so I'll double check that and then let go irqbalance. thank you! | 14:02 |
r3boot | Do note, not all interrupts will be balanced by default. On my own system, (archlinux, 5.3.1, no irqbalance) it looks like this: https://maze.io/paste/p/kskoGninAm8wExXr | 14:03 |
topro | this looks quite similar to what I get on the system where irqbalance is to be retired. so I think we're good to go | 14:04 |
r3boot | yeah, I think so too | 14:05 |
topro | learned something on #debian about it. https://bugs.debian.org/926967 | 14:08 |
avbox | r3boot: Thank you for your help. Bluetooth does work now. I just did not find out why a smartphone does disconnet/reconnect only when something is happening (my be power saving). Thank you! | 14:19 |
lcufer | very informative chat, thanks | 14:59 |
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