Duvean | Hello | 01:35 |
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Duvean | # lxc-create -n debian -t debian | 01:35 |
Duvean | throws: | 01:36 |
Duvean | E: Couldn't find these debs: devuan-keyringFailed to download the rootfs, aborting.Failed to download 'debian base'failed to install debianlxc-create: debian: lxccontainer.c: create_run_template: 1617 Failed to create container from templatelxc-create: debian: tools/lxc_create.c: main: 327 Failed to create container debian | 01:36 |
Duvean | devuan-keyring is obviously installed on the host system... but for some reason lxc-templates is looking for it on the debian repository? | 01:37 |
Duvean | I think we need a devuan version of /usr/share/lxc/templates/lxc-debian for the lxc-templates package | 01:43 |
* ShorTie Thinkz, somebody not playing nice | 01:59 | |
Duvean | yep, I think is debootstrap | 02:01 |
Duvean | https://pastebin.com/g20AsFY1 | 02:04 |
Duvean | two quick fixes... for anybody looking to get a devuan LXC container on devuan: | 02:20 |
Duvean | https://pastebin.com/RySaLudT | 02:20 |
stiltr | You can also just pull an image from images.linuxcontainers.org | 02:21 |
stiltr | Glad you sorted out the fix though! | 02:22 |
Duvean | cool, thank you for the heads up stiltr | 02:27 |
stiltr | No problem! | 02:28 |
* enyc meows | 12:52 | |
* enyc wonders what problems-in-practice being found with devuan as desktop | 12:52 | |
* enyc also wonders what indications there are of devuan users / surveys, how popcon handled, and so on | 12:52 | |
gnarface | enyc: here's the packages you can't use: http://packages.roundr.devuan.org/bannedpackages.txt | 12:58 |
gnarface | er, sorry, i think it's supposed to be http://packages.devuan.org/bannedpackages.txt | 12:59 |
gnarface | (that's what it redirects to currently) | 12:59 |
gnarface | dunno about the other stuff | 12:59 |
enyc | uergh NET::ERR_CERT_DATE_INVALID hsts configured on the https:// version | 13:00 |
enyc | ok so i can see explicitly disallowed paackages | 13:01 |
enyc | fine but... more wondering how beowulf works for people, what sorts of niggels/issue still exist | 13:01 |
gnarface | i haven't seen any problems with it myself | 13:02 |
gnarface | chromium is crashing if you care about chromium, but that's also happening on debian | 13:02 |
gnarface | i should say that i haven't seen any problems that are not also problems with debian | 13:04 |
enyc | my ascii upgraded to devuan... still has weirdness with auto mounting | 13:05 |
enyc | and device notes not populated in 10000000 microseconds etc. SOMETIMES | 13:05 |
enyc | sorts of things that are likely related to udev/systemd behaviour differences | 13:06 |
enyc | but would have to do new install etc to properly rule out still issue in new beowulf | 13:06 |
gnarface | well there might be permissions related issues but those are typically what i'd consider "expected behavior" even if they are not what a systemd user would expect | 13:06 |
gnarface | i wouldn't expect device tree population delays unless it was a hardware issue | 13:07 |
enyc | hrrm | 13:07 |
gnarface | but if it's eudev maybe you can find people here who know about it | 13:07 |
enyc | didn't see that problem on the MXlinux (booting not using systemd) on another disk in same system | 13:07 |
gnarface | if it's systemd-udevd, i recommend you try eudv | 13:07 |
gnarface | eudev* | 13:08 |
gnarface | ah, but another disk is the key factor here, i'm saying | 13:08 |
enyc | definitely eudev 3.2.7-6 | 13:08 |
gnarface | like for example, USB flash devices often have wildly variable initialization times, which would be not a fair comparison against a spinning-platter harddrive... | 13:09 |
enyc | gnarface: these are 2 pata disks of same type on same controller ;p | 13:09 |
gnarface | ... sometimes not even a fair comparison against other USB flash devices | 13:09 |
gnarface | oh, well that's weird | 13:09 |
gnarface | still sounds like it could be a hardware issue though, i'd be wary | 13:10 |
gnarface | so far i haven't seen anything like that when mounting anything here | 13:10 |
enyc | https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=918590 | 13:10 |
enyc | https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=242689 | 13:10 |
enyc | not the same but releated you get idea | 13:10 |
enyc | this soert of elrro/message can clearly happen wider isse | 13:10 |
gnarface | what is md0? | 13:11 |
gnarface | oh, software raid | 13:11 |
gnarface | that's why i'm not seeing this issue, probably | 13:11 |
gnarface | hmm, though the end of that bug report, someone says that it's an issue with chrooted systems... | 13:11 |
gnarface | they propose a workaround | 13:12 |
gnarface | if you're doing something weird that should be your primary suspect | 13:12 |
gnarface | so far it's been really reliable for me | 13:13 |
gnarface | i'm not using chromium though | 13:13 |
gnarface | or suspend | 13:14 |
gnarface | i just leave them on | 13:14 |
gnarface | so ymmv | 13:14 |
enyc | gnarface: hrrm ecrypted root in standard way, not, imho, weird | 13:23 |
enyc | gnarface: and its intermittent, probelm doesn't happen evryboot | 13:23 |
enyc | but if it doesn happen it presisotnet, doesn't g away after a delay | 13:23 |
* enyc meows | 13:27 | |
gnarface | well, it might be worth filing a bug report about | 13:55 |
gnarface | though it would be good to have more test cases | 13:55 |
enyc | gnarface: yes and until i manage a re-install test hard to nknow where what to report | 14:07 |
jj54 | hello | 14:24 |
gnarface | hello | 14:25 |
jj54 | I want to install whatsdesk from snap, can I install snap on devuan? | 14:25 |
jj54 | *snapd | 14:25 |
gnarface | probably | 14:25 |
gnarface | maybe not though | 14:26 |
gnarface | https://pkginfo.devuan.org/ | 14:26 |
gnarface | you can search for it | 14:26 |
fsmithred | enyc, add 'sleep 1' to /etc/init.d/eudev - https://bugs.devuan.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=483 | 14:27 |
Joril | jj54: snapd is in https://pkgmaster.devuan.org/bannedpackages.txt | 14:31 |
jj54 | ok thanks for the answer | 14:33 |
zatumil | where is snap downloading whatsdesk? | 14:37 |
fsmithred | enyc, also see: https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=21501#p21501 | 14:46 |
enyc | Ooooo devuan tracker | 15:45 |
enyc | fsmithred: oOOoooo thankyou fer pointer | 15:45 |
enyc | fsmithred: put in same sleep 1s myself | 17:48 |
enyc | fsmithred: will have to see on further reboots if gone awy.... would more feedback be helpful etc.? | 17:48 |
golinux | gnarface: Or https://pkgmaster.devuan.org/bannedpackages.txt | 18:40 |
zatumil | Linux Mint drops Ubuntu Snap packages [LWN.net] https://lwn.net/SubscriberLink/825005/6440c82feb745bbe/ | 19:33 |
brocashelm | ^ that is #debian-fork discussion, but...CANONICAL BTFO! | 19:55 |
brocashelm | or #debianfork, w/e | 19:56 |
brocashelm | how do i get rid of this emoji bullshit on devuan? is it even possible? example (when you right click): https://tuxthink.blogspot.com/2019/09/inserting-emoji-in-gedit.html | 20:49 |
brocashelm | i get that when i right click xfce4's whisker menu (search box) or synaptic (search box) | 20:49 |
Leander | what exactly happens when you right click? do you get the context menu, or do you directly get into the emoji dialog? | 20:56 |
fsmithred | yup. context menu. | 20:58 |
fsmithred | I went ahead and tried it. It really does put a smiley face in the search bar, and synaptic came up with no hits on the search. | 20:58 |
Leander | ok but... what's the actual matter? | 21:02 |
Leander | I'm trying here, and the search box works, as long as you search normal text | 21:03 |
Leander | and these emojis are unicode characters, so they're already in whatever font you are using in your GTK theme | 21:05 |
brocashelm | no, i meant the synaptic search box (ctrl+f) when you right click on it | 21:07 |
fsmithred | is that different from clicking on Search? | 21:07 |
brocashelm | where you type the text, but instead right click on it (such as if you wanted to copy/paste something) | 21:08 |
fsmithred | yes it's the same, and yes I did that. I even selected an emoji and searched for it. | 21:09 |
brocashelm | i would like to know how to disable that from the context menu | 21:09 |
fsmithred | I agree that it's fucking stupid to have that there, but all you have to do is avoid selecting that item in the menu. | 21:09 |
fsmithred | possibly with dconf-editor, but that's just a guess | 21:10 |
fsmithred | I used that to get directories to sort before files in the file-selection windows | 21:10 |
brocashelm | i guess i'm just going to have to ignore it | 22:00 |
brocashelm | really dumb that people can't just disable that out of preference | 22:01 |
golinux | brocashelm: I gave up on gedit years ago and moved to pluma. gedit familiarity without the more recent bs that's now being included. | 22:44 |
brocashelm | yeah, i generally use leafpad/mousepad for simplicity or geany for more advanced stuff | 22:54 |
brocashelm | nano and vim are the cli versions i use | 22:55 |
golinux | Then why torture yourself with gedit? | 22:57 |
brocashelm | which one is gedit? | 23:22 |
brocashelm | geany? | 23:22 |
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