joybuke | Howdy there, im trying to figure out how to customize cinnamon's default configuration system wide. Anyone know how to do that? | 00:00 |
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fsmithred | joybuke, you have to look into the cinnamon config file, probably in /etc/xdg/ | 00:01 |
fsmithred | files | 00:01 |
joybuke | more so looking for the default background area | 00:03 |
fsmithred | is desktop-base installed? | 00:04 |
joybuke | yes | 00:04 |
fsmithred | do you have a devuan background? | 00:04 |
joybuke | yup | 00:04 |
fsmithred | or a cinnamon one? | 00:04 |
fsmithred | ok | 00:04 |
fsmithred | so it's (I really should know this)... | 00:05 |
fsmithred | /usr/share/desktop-base... | 00:05 |
fsmithred | but really you should use the alternatives system | 00:05 |
fsmithred | update-alternatives | 00:06 |
joybuke | enlighten me | 00:07 |
fsmithred | uh, to do it that way, you'd have to use one of the bg's already there or add and alternative | 00:07 |
joybuke | for desktop-base or update-alternatives | 00:07 |
joybuke | im fine with just adding a new picture to the defaults if needed | 00:08 |
joybuke | its just where are those files located? | 00:08 |
fsmithred | grep -rni your_way /etc/xdg/ | 00:08 |
fsmithred | Here's how I normally figure it out | 00:08 |
fsmithred | Change the desktop in my user session and then look in ~/.config to see where that change got stored | 00:09 |
fsmithred | then I know to make the same changes to the same file in /etc/xdg/ | 00:09 |
fsmithred | that will make it the default bg for anyone who has not already changed their bg | 00:11 |
joybuke | found the backgrounds in desktop-base | 00:12 |
joybuke | I could just edit them there, but you said thats not a good way of doing it | 00:12 |
fsmithred | you could replace the default bg file with another image but give it the same name | 00:12 |
fsmithred | that's a shitty way to do it | 00:12 |
joybuke | I rather it not be a convoluted mess | 00:13 |
joybuke | I see .xml files in here with the names of things | 00:13 |
fsmithred | figuring out how to use update-alternatives is a mess | 00:13 |
fsmithred | yeah, that's what you want | 00:13 |
joybuke | neato | 00:13 |
fsmithred | well, what you really want is in cinnamon files, not desktop-base | 00:13 |
joybuke | I'd think the starter background would be based on what desktop-base wants | 00:14 |
fsmithred | somewhere is a cinnamon file, probably xml, that has the bg in it | 00:14 |
fsmithred | desktop-base has no code to deal with cinnamon | 00:14 |
joybuke | annoying, but I can work it | 00:14 |
fsmithred | cinnamon has code to use whatever bg desktop-base uses | 00:15 |
fsmithred | you can override that by putting the right config file in /etc/xdg | 00:15 |
fsmithred | probably /etc/xdg/cinnamon/something | 00:15 |
fsmithred | I only know xfce | 00:15 |
joybuke | the only DE file I see in here xfce4 | 00:15 |
fsmithred | and openbox | 00:15 |
fsmithred | where? | 00:15 |
joybuke | that and some other stuff | 00:16 |
joybuke | most seems kde related | 00:16 |
fsmithred | where are you looking? | 00:16 |
fsmithred | you can't start a post with a slash. Precede it with a space. | 00:16 |
joybuke | ah, new to IRC and all | 00:17 |
joybuke | /etc/xdg | 00:17 |
fsmithred | no cinnamon files? | 00:17 |
joybuke | nope | 00:17 |
fsmithred | look in /usr/share/cinnamon | 00:17 |
fsmithred | maybe something there | 00:17 |
joybuke | wait wait, I just found something | 00:17 |
fsmithred | and then I think you'd have to copy the file to /etc/xdg | 00:18 |
joybuke | cinnamon-settings-daemon-background.desktop | 00:18 |
fsmithred | tjat | 00:18 |
fsmithred | that's probably just going to change the user's configs | 00:18 |
fsmithred | not system-wide | 00:18 |
joybuke | damn | 00:18 |
fsmithred | I don't know | 00:18 |
fsmithred | see what's in it | 00:18 |
fsmithred | run it and see what it does | 00:19 |
fsmithred | should be an Exec line in it | 00:19 |
joybuke | yeah I ran that | 00:19 |
joybuke | just dumped an error relating to .service files | 00:19 |
joybuke | and DBus | 00:19 |
systemdlete2 | I get sound through the speakers on my 2-in-1 laptop, but alsamixer doesn't seem to show anything other than "headphones" -- even when no headphones are plugged in!!! I cannot get sound through the headphones if I *do* plug them in. I've rebooted and no change. | 00:20 |
fsmithred | did you try what I said about changing your bg and looking in .config? | 00:20 |
systemdlete2 | (yes, the "headphones" in alsamixer are unmuted) | 00:20 |
systemdlete2 | It's an ASUS T101H (transformer) and it is running ascii. | 00:21 |
joybuke | I did and nothing appeared | 00:21 |
joybuke | man I'd help with the alsa stuff but it is such a mess, haven't ever gave it a deepdive | 00:22 |
fsmithred | there's no ~/.config/cinnamon directory? | 00:22 |
joybuke | nope | 00:22 |
fsmithred | after you changed your bg? | 00:22 |
fsmithred | it has to be stored somewhere in your user files | 00:23 |
joybuke | oh yeah, but I can't find it | 00:23 |
fsmithred | grep -rni <pattern> ~/.config | 00:24 |
fsmithred | where pattern is all or part of the new bg file name | 00:24 |
fsmithred | that will tell you which file and on which line it appears | 00:24 |
fsmithred | and the line | 00:24 |
joybuke | nothing | 00:26 |
joybuke | nothing appeared | 00:26 |
joybuke | this is werid | 00:26 |
joybuke | used glob chars and exact names and got nothing | 00:26 |
fsmithred | globs won't work with that | 00:27 |
fsmithred | just partial pattern with no spaces or in quotes | 00:27 |
joybuke | .config/dconf/user | 00:28 |
fsmithred | might be ~/.cinnamon | 00:30 |
fsmithred | https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/115424/where-does-cinnamon-store-its-desktop-art-settings | 00:30 |
joybuke | ~/.cinnamon is for user stuf iirc | 00:31 |
joybuke | aah gsettings might be useful | 00:32 |
joybuke | I see why you linked that now | 00:33 |
fsmithred | stackexchange usually has very good answers | 00:33 |
joybuke | I use them all the time, just couldn't find anything, maybe just didn't look hard enough | 00:34 |
joybuke | ah nvm about the ghsettings thing, its for setting, not showing the URI | 00:36 |
joybuke | i'll just go with the desktop-base fix | 00:39 |
systemdlete2 | Also having problems with a usb headset on a PC running ascii. | 00:50 |
systemdlete2 | (why is sound on linux always so... so... grmph!) | 00:50 |
joybuke | I think we need systemd-soundd | 00:51 |
systemdlete2 | And to think that I had this working some time back... before umpteen browser updates and kernel updates and god knows what else | 00:53 |
joybuke | assumed you ruled out hardware issues? | 00:54 |
unixbsd | when I use fsck and create a new partition, it will change the Signature. that damage grub. can this genious feature be changed in future? | 10:36 |
gnarface | unixbsd: the new partition probably just had a different UUID than the old grub entry. should be easy to fix... | 10:50 |
gnarface | unixbsd: (expected behavior) | 10:51 |
gnarface | unixbsd: ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid/ | 10:51 |
debdog | mayhap there is a way to tell grub to use LABEL or the device entry instead? | 10:53 |
clort | we didn't need uuids in the 80s | 10:53 |
gnarface | yes, you can still use labels or device nodes | 11:03 |
unixbsd | hi clort | 12:03 |
unixbsd | I can do fsdisk with slackware, fine, but when I do my fdisk with devuan it will modify everything. then my grub2 on part1 netbsd is damaged, and I need to put grub2 on mbr again. | 12:04 |
unixbsd | slackware does not alter disks in that way. | 12:05 |
unixbsd | bsd ither. | 12:05 |
unixbsd | bsd either. | 12:05 |
xrogaan | I didn't have 5 different drives hooked up in the 80s | 12:07 |
xrogaan | The issue without uuid is that the order in which drives were "read" was determined by the BIOS, and so it can become a nightmare if you misconfigure or change your amount of drives. With uuid, that order becomes irrelevant: your drive will always have the same path. | 12:09 |
xrogaan | So, I setup Evolution with a google agenda. The software proceeded to remind me of all the events that occurred the previous 12 years. | 12:10 |
xrogaan | In gnome fashion, it doesn't explain why it does that at all or why it's useful. | 12:12 |
systemdlete3 | I could use some help with sound on devuan ascii... Can't seem to get any kind of headset working. On my laptop, it does not seem to recognize the buds plugged into the jack port; on my PC, it seems to ignore the USB headset I am trying to use there. | 13:16 |
systemdlete3 | Both of these devices worked successfully in the past on ascii. I just haven't used them recently, like in the past 5 or 6 months now | 13:16 |
systemdlete3 | I've tried monkeying with alsamixer, no help. (I do not have pulse and never used pulse here) | 13:17 |
clort | alsa is a discipline in itself, and I forget what i learn a few months later | 13:17 |
systemdlete3 | aplay -l shows me the respective headsets in either scenario. | 13:18 |
systemdlete3 | I note that there is no "auto mute" shown in alsamixer. I wonder if that might be the issue? | 13:18 |
clort | alsamixer now lets you switch between sound cards with f6 | 13:19 |
clort | i keep a small archive of asound.conf files to refer-to for the different setups | 13:19 |
systemdlete3 | I seem to have sound problems EVERY time I return to (trying to) use headsets | 13:19 |
clort | i don't think anything has changed in the OS | 13:20 |
systemdlete3 | It's a nuisance to have to fiddle with asound.conf every time. I don't always want to use headsets. | 13:20 |
systemdlete3 | but yeah. That's probably the issue. | 13:20 |
clort | is it a usb headset which supplies its own sound card? | 13:21 |
clort | sound cards used to not be dynamically added and removed. this complicates life. | 13:21 |
clort | having a static - constantly connected sound card, for your headset, will eliminate issues with dynamically adding sound card devices | 13:22 |
systemdlete3 | I have no idea, actually. aplay -l or -L shows the headset when it is plugged in. It just does not play sound through them. | 13:26 |
systemdlete3 | I think this might help me: https://askubuntu.com/questions/447718/no-sound-on-usb-headset-how-to-manage-soundcards-and-audio-devices | 13:27 |
systemdlete3 | I find it odd that after 25 years, Linux STILL does not offer carefree sound support. I know sound is difficult, but the tools provided are crude. And pulse is no solution to anything. | 13:28 |
systemdlete3 | I had to muck with /etc/asound.conf; modifying .asoundrc didn't seem to do anything special. Do I have to log in again after modifying it? | 13:30 |
systemdlete3 | Supposedly, .asoundrc is read after /etc/asound.conf, overriding the defaults set there. And supposedly each alsa app reads both of them. That doesn't seem to be happening for me though. :( | 13:32 |
systemdlete3 | Well, at least I have sound. I was resisting modifying the systemwide alsa config all day... thanks for pushing me a bit there. | 13:33 |
clort | ✓ | 13:44 |
unixbsd | I noticed that clang should be added to the LIVE DVD devuan. | 15:06 |
fsmithred | why? Is it part of the normal desktop intsall? | 15:21 |
brocashelm | youtube-dl's site hosts the latest build in case you don't trust third-party repos | 16:38 |
* icemodding hi ppl! | 16:52 | |
clort | hi | 16:57 |
gnarface | if you have a question icemodding just ask | 16:58 |
icemodding | ok, thanks. | 16:59 |
fsmithred | brocashelm, do you know how runit handles getty? I'm trying to set autologin for tty1 in a live iso that has runit | 17:02 |
fsmithred | I tried having the live-config script edit /etc/sv/getty-tty1 but get error that it's not a real file. | 17:02 |
fsmithred | ok, it's a directory that contains a file of the same name. I missed a level. | 17:04 |
suavedandy | Okay. So regarding passwordless poweroff. | 18:20 |
suavedandy | Turns out you don't need to add the rule to sudoers at all. | 18:21 |
suavedandy | elogind replaces systemd here. | 18:21 |
suavedandy | elogind poweroff | 18:21 |
suavedandy | *loginctl poweroff | 18:22 |
hagbard_ | TIL | 18:27 |
suavedandy | So. What superviser does the OpenRC installation use? Still SysV? | 18:33 |
suavedandy | *SysVinit | 18:33 |
suavedandy | System V ≠ SysVinit | 18:34 |
suavedandy | I want to restart a service. I have the system with OpenRC installed. | 18:50 |
* ShorTie Thinkz, /etc/init.d/Service restart maybe | 18:53 | |
gordonDrogon | suavedandy, I don't have a direct answer as I've never used openRc, but I understand the scripts are still in /etc/init.d, so /etc/init.d/servicename stop/start | 18:53 |
suavedandy | Thanks. | 18:53 |
suavedandy | Dev1 Galaxy doesn't work anymore. | 19:14 |
suavedandy | Again. | 19:14 |
suavedandy | Oh, Lord, not again. | 19:14 |
gnarface | seems fine | 19:16 |
suavedandy | Not to me. | 19:17 |
suavedandy | Always happens to me exclusively. | 19:18 |
suavedandy | Have to use VPN. | 19:18 |
suavedandy | Might as well run VPN full time by this point. | 19:18 |
brocashelm | i use vpn 99.9% of the time when possible | 19:20 |
suavedandy | Well, if only there was a free VPN that didn't give you a strong download/upload penalty. | 19:25 |
fsmithred | what are speeds like with riseup-vpn? | 19:27 |
suavedandy | I have no idea. | 19:30 |
fsmithred | if I can get it to work again, I'll try | 19:32 |
suavedandy | Wait. | 19:37 |
suavedandy | Huh. | 19:37 |
suavedandy | That service actually has an ancom political ideology, hm. | 19:38 |
suavedandy | Haven't noticed it. | 19:38 |
suavedandy | Tho duh, red and black star. | 19:38 |
gnarface | suavedandy: i wouldn't recommend using a vpn service, free or otherwise. i'd recommend renting a virtual server and putting your own vpn on it | 19:39 |
suavedandy | Sir. | 19:39 |
suavedandy | I have problems with accessing the forums with my IP. | 19:39 |
suavedandy | At home. | 19:40 |
brocashelm | yeah, riseup is far-left (their e-mail service vets anyone who isn't), but they don't require an account for their vpn | 19:40 |
suavedandy | What do you mean "vets?" | 19:40 |
brocashelm | i got 40-50 mbps download with riseup's vpn, which is half as fast as without a vpn | 19:40 |
brocashelm | i meant they check whether or not you agree with their message before getting an account | 19:41 |
fsmithred | 6-7 MB/s | 19:41 |
suavedandy | I mean, I don't like big corporations as much as the next person. | 19:42 |
suavedandy | But I don't consider myself a communist. | 19:43 |
brocashelm | me neither | 19:43 |
fsmithred | 13.7MB/s without the vpn | 19:44 |
fsmithred | so, I get half like you | 19:44 |
brocashelm | ouch | 19:44 |
brocashelm | on ethernet? | 19:44 |
fsmithred | that's a download test, not a speedtest | 19:44 |
brocashelm | oh ok | 19:44 |
fsmithred | yeah | 19:44 |
brocashelm | i check with speedtest | 19:45 |
brocashelm | the cli | 19:45 |
suavedandy | Ya using speedtest-cli? | 19:45 |
brocashelm | yeah, you can get it in devuan's repo | 19:45 |
brocashelm | it's a lot better and faster than using the browser | 19:45 |
suavedandy | I know. Tried it. Works well. | 19:45 |
suavedandy | Heheh, well. | 19:45 |
suavedandy | Obviously. | 19:45 |
brocashelm | but yeah, riseup appears to require invite codes for registrations, so you have to know someone using their service who would vouch for you | 19:46 |
suavedandy | Private club, huh? | 19:47 |
fsmithred | speedtest.net was giving me 75Mb/s before it threw an error | 19:47 |
suavedandy | Understandable. | 19:47 |
suavedandy | I mean, haven't read much Kropotkin so maybe in the future I'll look at anarcho-communism differently. | 19:48 |
suavedandy | To be fair, I'm not that deep into politics. | 19:48 |
fsmithred | 105 without the vpn | 19:49 |
fsmithred | which is 5 more than I'm buying | 19:49 |
brocashelm | i wonder if there is a way to modify the bitmask client or whatever and add multiple servers. you can only use the same ip for a while | 19:50 |
suavedandy | So, guys. There's an init system. There's service manager. There's a supervisor. | 19:51 |
suavedandy | Am confoozed. | 19:51 |
fsmithred | I just checked, and I did get a different ip address than I got when I tried this a few days ago. | 19:52 |
suavedandy | With Void you install it and everything is Runit. | 19:52 |
n4dir | you can change the IP address, it seems | 19:53 |
n4dir | -select-gateway. But it seems you folks speak of other stuff, i don't fully get it | 19:54 |
fsmithred | several conversations happening at once, all with the same people | 19:55 |
fsmithred | try to keep up | 19:55 |
n4dir | ha ha. nah, i meant the bitmask stuff. No clue of such, but i could change the IP to communism-anarchism ... urgh : with select-gateway | 19:56 |
suavedandy | "communism-anarchism" | 19:57 |
suavedandy | LOL. | 19:57 |
n4dir | Max Stirner i read. Not sure, i don't think he hits the nail. But it sure is fun, at least in German | 19:57 |
suavedandy | Stirner is entirely different. | 19:58 |
n4dir | ain't easy to translate anything Hegel based to other languages. Imho | 19:58 |
suavedandy | Ancaps agree with Stirner more. | 19:58 |
suavedandy | Stirner is an egoist. | 19:58 |
n4dir | to sum it up: learn German ! | 19:59 |
n4dir | suavedandy: i disagree. | 19:59 |
suavedandy | He is anarcho-individualist. | 19:59 |
n4dir | i agree | 19:59 |
suavedandy | Egoist doesn't mean egotist or egocentrist. | 19:59 |
suavedandy | Or hedonist either. | 19:59 |
n4dir | in german egoist has a very bad taste. Hence i would rather say indiviualism | 20:00 |
n4dir | and keep the times he lived in in mind. Bit of an overreaction, i guess. | 20:00 |
suavedandy | I don't consider egoism as something cancerous. | 20:02 |
suavedandy | It wasn't an offence. | 20:02 |
n4dir | same for Nietzsche, a few decades later, but the same public bullshit. ups ... not off-topic, and i gotta eat. | 20:02 |
n4dir | last note: same now. | 20:02 |
fsmithred | hey folks, we're not in offtopic here | 20:03 |
suavedandy | We are aware. | 20:03 |
suavedandy | I was talking about OpenRC. | 20:03 |
fsmithred | looks like a philosphy discussion | 20:04 |
syco- | fsmithred, nihilist :p | 20:04 |
suavedandy | Now I'm reinstalling with Runit. | 20:04 |
suavedandy | Nah, it's politics. | 20:04 |
fsmithred | so, I made a live-iso with runit today. Anyone want to try it? | 20:04 |
xinomilo | sure | 20:05 |
suavedandy | I want to install a simple tiling WM. | 20:05 |
fsmithred | tell me if it's good. I hae no idea what I'm doing. | 20:05 |
suavedandy | Like herbstluftwm. | 20:05 |
xinomilo | link? | 20:05 |
fsmithred | I'll upload it | 20:05 |
suavedandy | What's the best dynamic tiling WM for newbs, guys? | 20:06 |
fsmithred | xinomilo, in a minutes | 20:07 |
fsmithred | munite | 20:07 |
fsmithred | xinomilo, give it another 10 minutes to finish: https://get.refracta.org/files/experimental/r10_runit-20201024_1516.iso | 20:09 |
xinomilo | no worries, i'll probably test tomorrow or monday | 20:09 |
fsmithred | cool, thanks | 20:09 |
fsmithred | I put it on a usb and it boots. And I did get autologin working on tty1. | 20:10 |
xinomilo | i was thinking lately the way systemd was introduced in debian.. it was all about boot speed , get more desktop users aboard.. well, runit is much faster...:P | 20:10 |
fsmithred | I got mixed feelings about that. | 20:11 |
suavedandy | 10 pm. Damn. | 20:11 |
fsmithred | I understand the sentiment, but I also have a bad taste in my mouth from that boot-speed scam. | 20:11 |
xinomilo | it wasn't a scam imho. as a sid user, i also tried systemd in the early days.. it did boot faster, back then.. | 20:13 |
xinomilo | if speed was used a "trojan horse" ..., well maybe... | 20:13 |
fsmithred | maybe it did boot faster when it didn't take an extra five minutes to boot. | 20:14 |
fsmithred | that's what I ran into. | 20:14 |
fsmithred | I tried it when jessie was still in testing | 20:14 |
fsmithred | oh, if you need to login on the live, it's root:root and user:user | 20:15 |
xinomilo | ok, downloading ... | 20:16 |
fsmithred | one minute to go on the upload | 20:16 |
fsmithred | sha256sum: ef3f7a8193a87610072572d6b29af9f8ae340b8abc6fd12ea8f96eb9d17e5463 r10_runit-20201024_1516.iso | 20:18 |
fsmithred | Here's a statment from Washington State Department of Agriculture: | 20:24 |
fsmithred | nm | 20:24 |
fsmithred | wrong window | 20:24 |
ShorTie | The grass is Green and the Sky is Blue | 20:42 |
golinux | Much bluer with air travel mostly shut down. | 20:55 |
golinux | Quite an improvement | 20:55 |
suavedandy | Windows XP wallpaper. | 21:00 |
luser978 | ok, so now that "they" are no longer using chemtrails, what *are* they using to control "us"? :) | 22:22 |
luser978 | >^ golinux | 22:23 |
syco- | luser978, 5g | 22:23 |
fsmithred | fear, since 2001-09-11 | 22:24 |
luser978 | an imperfect "killer" virus maybe... hmm | 22:25 |
n4dir | the most lame killer ever seen | 22:25 |
golinux | "They" are still (trying to) control countries around the globe. Why not it's own citiaens | 22:25 |
luser978 | it kills by lockdown | 22:25 |
n4dir | i do remember / think about a bit of what i read from Focault. These days | 22:25 |
n4dir | he sure would have loved all this | 22:26 |
golinux | "This" is nothing new. It has ever been thus. | 22:44 |
suavedandy | I can't use sv to supervise services. | 23:19 |
suavedandy | Well, that is depressing. | 23:20 |
suavedandy | Why even use runit instead of OpenRC then? | 23:21 |
suavedandy | Most of the stuff is SysVinit anyway. | 23:21 |
suavedandy | Hm. | 23:22 |
fsmithred | some say it's fast | 23:22 |
suavedandy | Is it tho? | 23:22 |
suavedandy | To me no difference. | 23:23 |
fsmithred | I don't knjow | 23:23 |
suavedandy | On Void Runit was a full-fledged supervisor at least. | 23:23 |
suavedandy | And here it has sv but you can't even use sv. | 23:23 |
suavedandy | Wait. Can you install runit along with runit-core tho? | 23:24 |
suavedandy | Ah. | 23:24 |
suavedandy | It's installed. | 23:24 |
fsmithred | I don't know, but I just booted my runit vm | 23:24 |
suavedandy | Runit supervision just doesn't work on Devuan, I guess. | 23:25 |
suavedandy | Devuan doesn't even have a virtual /var/service/ directory. | 23:25 |
suavedandy | No wonder. | 23:26 |
suavedandy | OpenRC's service supervision doesn't work either. | 23:27 |
suavedandy | So the system is still kinda SysVinit. | 23:28 |
suavedandy | Although you can… erm… list services… with rc-status. | 23:29 |
brocashelm | runit is faster than sysvinit in my experience for boot time | 23:30 |
suavedandy | Although OpenRC is meant to supplement SysVinit, it seems. | 23:30 |
brocashelm | but yes, runit could do better in devuan during session | 23:30 |
brocashelm | i'd be down to volunteer | 23:31 |
fsmithred | sv status /etc/service/getty-tty1/ | 23:31 |
suavedandy | Hmmmm. | 23:31 |
fsmithred | run: /etc/service/getty-tty1/: (pid 2308) 371s | 23:31 |
fsmithred | second line is the output | 23:31 |
fsmithred | I don't know what it means, but the only dirs in /etc/service are for gettys | 23:32 |
plasma41 | I installed runit as both my init and my service manager. I'm not using it any differently to what I was using before; I just switched just to verify I could. | 23:32 |
fsmithred | how do you make it the service manager? | 23:32 |
suavedandy | fsmithred: That's not how it's supposed to be. | 23:33 |
suavedandy | Weird. | 23:33 |
fsmithred | how should it be? | 23:33 |
plasma41 | I just installed all the runit components. One of those is its service manager. | 23:33 |
suavedandy | There is an actual directory that stores services on Void. | 23:34 |
suavedandy | "/etc/sv" | 23:34 |
suavedandy | BUT. | 23:34 |
fsmithred | I have runit-init and auto-installed runit and runit-helper | 23:34 |
suavedandy | To activate a service in Runit you're supposed to symlink the service directory to /var/service. | 23:35 |
suavedandy | Something like… | 23:35 |
brocashelm | perfecting runit on devuan would be amazing. no need to install void or antix to get the full experience | 23:35 |
suavedandy | ln -s /etc/sv/elogind/ /var/service/ | 23:35 |
fsmithred | sv man page says services are in dirs under /etc/service | 23:35 |
suavedandy | Hmmmm. | 23:36 |
brocashelm | i reckon this will be a forked package? | 23:36 |
suavedandy | Well, then Runit's supervision doesn't work properly, I guess. | 23:36 |
suavedandy | I remember Runit's site describing the service dir as /etc/sv/ also. | 23:38 |
fsmithred | looks like it could be anywhere if you give the full path in the command, or you can set $SVDIR | 23:39 |
fsmithred | default being /etc/service/ | 23:39 |
suavedandy | http://smarden.org/runit/ | 23:40 |
brocashelm | i remember reading an experimental blog post on getting runit to work on ubuntu 16.04 | 23:42 |
brocashelm | here it is: https://medium.com/@gdm85/runit-as-your-init-on-ubuntu-16-xenial-55d18513aac0 | 23:43 |
brocashelm | i never tried it, but it looks pretty interesting | 23:43 |
suavedandy | "Failed to reboot with elogind: Interactive authentification required." | 23:44 |
suavedandy | Well, that's hella weird. | 23:44 |
suavedandy | Runit being real funny, I guess. | 23:44 |
brocashelm | the only problem i had with installing runit was i could not soft reboot/shut down while sysvinit was active (kept getting stuck), so i had to do a hard reboot | 23:47 |
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