| ahaha | hello | 00:31 |
|---|---|---|
| ahaha | anyone here that could help me with an installation problem? | 00:31 |
| ahaha | basically when im setting up devuan networking its saying im missing this firmware ```rtl18125b-2.fw``` | 00:33 |
| gnarface | install the firmware-realtek package from non-free | 00:34 |
| golinux | Add contrib and non-free to your sources.list | 00:34 |
| ahaha | how can i do that | 00:35 |
| ahaha | Cant find it for devuan | 00:35 |
| gnarface | are you still in the installer or did you finish the install and boot it? | 00:35 |
| ahaha | im on my win laptop | 00:35 |
| gnarface | oh, i see | 00:35 |
| gnarface | hang on | 00:35 |
| ahaha | i do have an extra USB i could use but my main rig has no connection haha | 00:36 |
| gnarface | https://files.devuan.org/devuan_chimaera/installer-iso/ | 00:36 |
| gnarface | use the one with the name ending in "_netinstall.iso" for your architecture (probably amd64 if you're in doubt) | 00:36 |
| gnarface | it will include the non-free firmware then up front | 00:37 |
| ahaha | yeah i am using amd64 thanks :) | 00:37 |
| ahaha | ill report back soon | 00:38 |
| ahaha | hello | 00:54 |
| ahaha | sadly i am back :( | 00:54 |
| gnarface | ok, what went wrong this time? | 00:54 |
| ahaha | missing more firmware | 00:54 |
| ahaha | 1s ill send screenshot | 00:54 |
| gnarface | ok if you put it up at imgur i'll read it | 00:55 |
| ahaha | https://prnt.sc/26jumta\ | 00:55 |
| ahaha | https://prnt.sc/26jumta | 00:55 |
| ahaha | i put it on prntsc | 00:55 |
| gnarface | no, i don't trust that one enough to look at it | 00:55 |
| ahaha | ok sure | 00:55 |
| ahaha | imagur it is igs | 00:55 |
| gnarface | just fyi though, this firmware is only needed for encryption | 00:55 |
| gnarface | you should be able to get a working network connection up with a regular ethernet cable or just by using unencrypted wireless (though it is dangerous unless you are in an isolated area) | 00:56 |
| ahaha | Ah well it wont let me continue with the network setup | 00:56 |
| gnarface | alright, show the screenshot at imgur just so i know what you're talking about | 00:57 |
| ahaha | one watching ad hahahaha | 00:57 |
| ahaha | https://imgur.com/rQPQZCC | 00:57 |
| gnarface | you should though just fyi be able to complete the netinstall without a network connection.... it would still be bootable | 00:57 |
| gnarface | oh, that's interesting | 00:57 |
| ahaha | yeah but my modem is too far from my pc to even get ethernet | 00:57 |
| gnarface | that's not realtek | 00:57 |
| ahaha | intel | 00:57 |
| ahaha | nic | 00:57 |
| gnarface | yea, that one needs this package: https://pkginfo.devuan.org/cgi-bin/policy-query.html?c=package&q=firmware-iwlwifi | 00:58 |
| gnarface | but it also should have been on that disk, afaik... something is weird here | 00:58 |
| gnarface | how new is this hardware? | 00:58 |
| ahaha | uh | 00:58 |
| ahaha | the nic is pretty new | 00:58 |
| ahaha | let me check | 00:58 |
| gnarface | it's possible it is too new if it's less than a year | 00:58 |
| gnarface | do you have a regular ethernet cable to use instead? it's usually easier to install with ethernet then set wireless up afterwards | 00:59 |
| ahaha | its not less than a year | 00:59 |
| ahaha | more like 2-3 | 00:59 |
| ahaha | aorus b550 pro ac | 00:59 |
| gnarface | hmmm | 01:00 |
| systemdlete | Just got the bad news re polkit... I'm doing updates now, but does the update require a reboot? | 01:00 |
| gnarface | systemdlete: probably not, probably you just have to restart the login manager, but i'd reboot it to be safe | 01:00 |
| systemdlete | ok, thanks for that adviso | 01:01 |
| ahaha | so should i try to just install without network | 01:01 |
| gnarface | ahaha: if you only have this wireless device and no regular wired ethernet option, yes | 01:01 |
| ahaha | kk i just have to install the firmware onto a usb then right xdd | 01:02 |
| gnarface | ahaha: my guess is that it'll work then after upgrading to the backports kernel +firmware, but that's just a guess | 01:02 |
| ahaha | okay | 01:02 |
| ahaha | also yeah this motherboard was released June 2020 | 01:03 |
| systemdlete | getting a lot of update/upgrade error re servers not being accessible -- I am guessing this is due to high demand re this polkit update? | 01:03 |
| gnarface | ahaha: the netinstall will not quite railroad you into creating the network configuartion. you should still be able to get a bootable system out of it | 01:03 |
| systemdlete | or is something going on with devuan servers today? | 01:03 |
| gnarface | systemdlete: i had intermittent failures right after the patch was released but i had assumed it was just mirror propagation delay | 01:04 |
| systemdlete | ok | 01:04 |
| systemdlete | that makes sense, sure. | 01:04 |
| systemdlete | but still... the internets are buzzing with these polkit bugs. | 01:04 |
| systemdlete | I'm thinking every clear-minded person out there is running to get the patches | 01:05 |
| ahaha | gnarface how would i install this firmware once i boot up devuan on my disk | 01:07 |
| ahaha | first time really ever having to do this tbh | 01:07 |
| gnarface | ahaha: uh... need to know if you're overwriting the windows install you're using to talk with now | 01:08 |
| ahaha | no | 01:08 |
| ahaha | on laptop | 01:08 |
| ahaha | i installed the firmware from the git page | 01:09 |
| gnarface | ahaha: from the git page? no you should be doing this all from the devuan repos. you should just have to use that spare usb key you mentioned to copy over the firmware-iwlwifi.deb which you can download from the repos with a regular web browser | 01:09 |
| gnarface | ahaha: then when it's on the linux side just run "dpkg -i firmware-iwlwifi.deb" on it | 01:10 |
| ahaha | so not from https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/firmware/linux-firmware.git ? | 01:10 |
| gnarface | ahaha: (as root) | 01:10 |
| gnarface | ahaha: no no, that's for the upstream kernel. you'd only use that version if you're building the kernel. | 01:10 |
| ahaha | yeah couldnt find any other links | 01:10 |
| ahaha | http://deb.devuan.org/merged | 01:11 |
| ahaha | chimaera/non-free | 01:11 |
| ahaha | amd64 | 01:11 |
| ahaha | its saying this but | 01:11 |
| gnarface | there's links from the search results on pkginfo.devuan.org | 01:12 |
| ahaha | `Results for package pattern: firmware-iwlwifi.deb` | 01:12 |
| ahaha | blank ? | 01:12 |
| gnarface | no, don't put the .deb part in the url | 01:14 |
| gnarface | i already linked it for you above i thought... | 01:14 |
| gnarface | https://pkginfo.devuan.org/cgi-bin/policy-query.html?c=package&q=firmware-iwlwifi | 01:14 |
| gnarface | this one | 01:14 |
| ahaha | you did but im missing where to download | 01:15 |
| gnarface | sorry it's one link in | 01:15 |
| gnarface | click on the chimaera one then scroll down to the bottom | 01:15 |
| rustytaco | back in some time! :) | 01:15 |
| gnarface | ahaha: here, more specifically, but you really owe it to yourself to learn how to use this: https://pkginfo.devuan.org/cgi-bin/package-query.html?c=package&q=firmware-iwlwifi=20210315-3 | 01:16 |
| ahaha | oh ok think i found it | 01:16 |
| ahaha | gnarface: yeah xD i get it i dont like to be spoonfed but thanks | 01:16 |
| gnarface | the link text says this: pool/DEBIAN/non-free/f/firmware-nonfree/firmware-iwlwifi_20210315-3_all.deb | 01:16 |
| gnarface | but it's a direct link to the repo mirror url (a dns round-robin of a dozen or so servers) | 01:17 |
| ahaha | yep thanks lol | 01:17 |
| ahaha | pretty unfamiliar with deb tbh only even using it because of devuan | 01:17 |
| gnarface | if it doesn't work and you need it today then you really do need to go after building the upstream kernel, but i'm assuming that if there's new hardware out unsupported by the chimaera version then there will be a fix in chimaera-backports soon | 01:18 |
| systemdlete | reboot time I guess... | 01:18 |
| systemdlete | later | 01:18 |
| ahaha | ok ill be back (again lol) | 01:18 |
| ahaha | hello | 01:37 |
| ahaha | im back | 01:37 |
| gnarface | any luck? | 01:37 |
| ahaha | well | 01:38 |
| ahaha | New issue | 01:38 |
| ahaha | Grub boot loader for some reason is loading into cli | 01:38 |
| gnarface | that's expected | 01:38 |
| ahaha | Ah ok | 01:38 |
| ahaha | no clue of the directory LOL | 01:38 |
| gnarface | you didn't install anything graphical so there's nothing else but the text console left. did you get the wifi up or did you just boot it? | 01:39 |
| ahaha | no like im just in the bootloader | 01:39 |
| gnarface | hmmm | 01:39 |
| gnarface | there's no boot menu options or what? | 01:40 |
| ahaha | nope | 01:40 |
| ahaha | just grub on cli | 01:40 |
| gnarface | is it possible you never completed the netinstall? | 01:40 |
| ahaha | I did actually | 01:40 |
| ahaha | rebooted and everything | 01:40 |
| gnarface | it usually doesn't bail to a grub console unless you forgot to install a kernel | 01:41 |
| ahaha | which I didn’t im pretty sure | 01:41 |
| ahaha | idk if openrc changes anything | 01:41 |
| ahaha | probably not lol | 01:41 |
| gnarface | not with grub | 01:41 |
| gnarface | it should at least get past grub | 01:41 |
| ahaha | should I try uh installing again | 01:42 |
| gnarface | i have to assume you missed something important | 01:42 |
| ahaha | I mean I doubt it but I’ll try again | 01:42 |
| gnarface | make sure you complete every menu question | 01:42 |
| gnarface | i'm not sure what we're missing here, something simple possibly | 01:42 |
| ahaha | yeah no worries | 01:43 |
| ahaha | could it be that I chose to install all directories in one partition? | 01:43 |
| ahaha | Im guessing not | 01:43 |
| gnarface | no that shouldn't break anything except on very old hardware | 01:43 |
| gnarface | wait, this isn't a Dell, is it? | 01:43 |
| ahaha | no | 01:44 |
| gnarface | nah it should be fine because you didn't have problems with the usb key | 01:44 |
| ahaha | 0 dell components | 01:44 |
| gnarface | just make sure you go through every main menu step and finish it even if the answers are just no | 01:44 |
| ahaha | yep | 01:44 |
| ahaha | I think I was having this issue in the past | 01:44 |
| gnarface | copying grub to the disk is usually last so maybe you missed a step before that? | 01:44 |
| ahaha | That’s why I never installed devuan | 01:44 |
| gnarface | well now i'm wondering if your hardware is even too new for the kernel | 01:45 |
| ahaha | LOL uh | 01:45 |
| ahaha | nothing crazy even lol | 01:45 |
| gnarface | 2-3 years old and the installer disk booting though suggests user error | 01:45 |
| ahaha | just 1660ti B550 mb r53600x | 01:45 |
| ahaha | I doubt ddr4 memory is causing this | 01:46 |
| gnarface | there should be a phase in the installer where it copies the base system to the disk | 01:46 |
| gnarface | it's possible you skipped it accidentally | 01:46 |
| gnarface | it will prompt you with something called taskman | 01:47 |
| gnarface | just uncheck all the boxes | 01:47 |
| gnarface | then proceed | 01:47 |
| gnarface | well, you can leave "standard system utilities" that's harmless | 01:47 |
| gnarface | ahaha: it will prompt you with something called taskman | 01:49 |
| gnarface | ahaha: just uncheck all the boxes then proceed | 01:49 |
| ahaha | Sorry disconnected | 01:49 |
| ahaha | I only saw until you said “it will prompt you with something called taskman” | 01:49 |
| gnarface | it's important to say "ok" at that step instead of cancel, even if you are not installing any specific "tasks" | 01:50 |
| ahaha | okay | 01:50 |
| gnarface | you should see a fairly conspicuous progress meter when it does the right thing, that says "copying base system to disk" or something like that | 01:50 |
| gnarface | if you had skipped that step and just went straight to installing grub then rebooting, i would expect the behavior you described | 01:51 |
| ahaha | oh okay im going through rn so | 01:51 |
| gnarface | the installer won't force you do to all the main menu steps, it won't even force you to do them in order | 01:51 |
| gnarface | but you should really do all of them, and in order, unless you really know what you're doing | 01:52 |
| ahaha | Wow that’s not cool loool | 01:52 |
| gnarface | it's just always been this way. you'll get used to it. | 01:53 |
| ahaha | ok so | 01:56 |
| ahaha | I had to delete partitions that the previous installation made | 01:56 |
| gnarface | makes sense | 01:57 |
| gnarface | i don't trust the auto-partitioner btw, i always manually partition anyway | 01:57 |
| ahaha | I am | 01:57 |
| ahaha | always manually partition | 01:57 |
| ahaha | even with calamares it sucks | 01:57 |
| gnarface | you do only need 1 partition but if your storage is not flash based you should really also have a swap partition | 01:58 |
| ahaha | I have a swap of 1GB | 01:59 |
| ahaha | So should be good | 01:59 |
| gnarface | should be, but if you want hibernate to work it needs to be at least equivalent in size to your physical ram | 02:00 |
| ahaha | Wait | 02:00 |
| ahaha | im getting error on “install base system” | 02:01 |
| gnarface | ah ha, now we're down to some evidence | 02:01 |
| gnarface | what's the error? | 02:01 |
| ahaha | Literally all it says | 02:01 |
| ahaha | “Failed to determine the code name for release” | 02:02 |
| gnarface | damn | 02:02 |
| ahaha | “The failing step is: Install the base system” | 02:02 |
| gnarface | did you pick any tasks in taskman? | 02:02 |
| gnarface | i'd uncheck them all, keep in mind it'd need a network connection to find them | 02:02 |
| blizzow | taskman or tasksel? | 02:03 |
| gnarface | sorry, i typed taskman but i meant tasksel probably | 02:03 |
| ahaha | uh | 02:03 |
| gnarface | ahaha: this is starting to become tedious though, maybe i should have just instructed you to get the full desktop iso | 02:03 |
| gnarface | ahaha: how big is that USB key? | 02:04 |
| ahaha | Big enough lol | 02:04 |
| ahaha | ill get to it :c | 02:04 |
| gnarface | yea, consider downloading the big one, sorry | 02:04 |
| gnarface | i really thought we could pull a fast one with the netinstaller and save time | 02:05 |
| ahaha | its fine no issue only gonna be here for a while haha | 02:05 |
| gnarface | feel free to stay connected forever if you can manage it | 02:06 |
| blizzow | I have this really weird thing happeing on a fresh daedalus installation. I type ssh user@newhost, the password dialog shows up nearly instantaneously. The it hangs at log on for about 10 seconds before dumping me to a working cursor. | 02:06 |
| gnarface | blizzow: usually a network issue related to DNS/hostname mis-configuration | 02:07 |
| gnarface | blizzow: verify that /etc/hosts agrees with your network configuration | 02:07 |
| gnarface | blizzow: (also potentially an entropy starvation issue but i haven't seen that happen on a recent kernel for years) | 02:08 |
| blizzow | Just threw a 127.0.1.1 entry in /etc/hosts. It also happens when I run: sudo su - | 02:08 |
| blizzow | putting that hosts entry did not help. | 02:10 |
| ahaha | btw is it recommended to use a non devuan.org mirror ? | 02:12 |
| ahaha | im seeing leaseweb is way faster than devuan | 02:12 |
| gnarface | ahaha: if one of the official ones in the deb.devuan.org round-robin is closer to you and enough faster to matter, then feel free to use it directly, yes | 02:23 |
| gnarface | blizzow: only other thing that comes to mind right now is disk or bus issues; i see long delays like this occasionally with laptops that have aggressive power saving on slow-rpm spinning-platter harddrives, or on my rpi1 which has a coffee straw for a system bus | 02:24 |
| gnarface | blizzow: does it happen for every ssh login, or for example if you log in with one ssh terminal and then keep it open, then log in concurrently with a second ssh terminal, does the second terminal exhibit the same delays? | 02:25 |
| gnarface | ahaha: (to be clear though, DO NOT use unofficial mirrors) | 02:25 |
| gnarface | ahaha: (for your safety) | 02:26 |
| ahaha | yeah ofc | 02:26 |
| ahaha | it was listed on devuan | 02:26 |
| blizzow | three SSD ZFS pool for disks. I wish I knew for sure what I installed besides firmware-iwlwifi from the live image. | 02:26 |
| ahaha | `HTTPS mirrors | 02:26 |
| ahaha | mirror.leaseweb.com/devuan/ ` | 02:26 |
| gnarface | blizzow: hmmm, i don't know enough about ZFS network transparency to know for sure there couldn't be an issue related there | 02:26 |
| gnarface | blizzow: for the /etc/hosts just make sure it has localhost and the main (default) ethernet device's ip | 02:27 |
| gnarface | blizzow: in some rare cases you might have issues if the hostname in /etc/hosts disagrees with DNS and/or DHCP, even on other machines, but before you mentioned ZFS NAS stuff i wouldn't have considered it a likely pitfall in this case | 02:29 |
| blizzow | Pretty sure it's not the zfs pool. I think this is something I installed or the way I did the installation. I debootstrapped a zfs mount, chrooted into the mount and installed more packages. I'll throw a host entry in with the real IP address as well. I | 02:29 |
| gnarface | blizzow: your message got cut off at "...address as well. I" | 02:29 |
| blizzow | the last "I" is a typo. | 02:30 |
| gnarface | oh, ok | 02:30 |
| blizzow | I think I may know what the problem is. I issued a DHCP reservation for the new host on my network but it's still using the old address. How do I restart networking with runit? | 02:33 |
| gnarface | good question | 02:36 |
| gnarface | does "/etc/init.d/network restart" work? | 02:36 |
| gnarface | sorry it'd be "/etc/init.d/networking restart" | 02:36 |
| blizzow | I'll have to dust off some old debian braincells. | 02:36 |
| gnarface | that's the sysvinit way but some of the alternate inits have been furnished with the same scripts | 02:36 |
| gnarface | otherwise if it's a simple network layout you can probably just ifdown then ifup it | 02:37 |
| blizzow | Yeah, /etc/init.d/networking restart seems to have restarted my network stack, but still have the same log in issue. | 02:38 |
| gnarface | hmm, that's weird. and it's every time, even for concurrent logins? | 02:38 |
| gnarface | or did you say it was intermittent? | 02:38 |
| blizzow | Every time. I think I'm just going to go give the thing the finger. Maybe even try reinstalling. | 02:40 |
| gnarface | are there other machines using the same zfs pool that aren't doing this? | 02:41 |
| blizzow | Gotta walk twenty feet to the server closet. | 02:41 |
| gnarface | i'm out of ideas too, i'd be left to deductive reasoning | 02:41 |
| blizzow | Thanks for the ideas though! | 02:41 |
| blizzow | Ugh. I think this is a reinstall. Very unhappy little box. | 02:48 |
| monokrome| | Does anyone know how to fix issues with Devuan not working with an RX 6900 XT after a fresh install? Cinnamon & MATE both had the same issue. It seems like the video driver for Radeon isn't being tried or even detected? O_o | 06:55 |
| monokrome| | Also, does anyone know which one I should be using? | 06:55 |
| gast0n | https://wiki.debian.org/AtiHowTo | 07:05 |
| gnarface | if that's a new one, it needs the firmware-amd-graphics package from non-free | 07:21 |
| gnarface | if it's a very new one, it might need a newer version than the one in stable currently | 07:22 |
| gnarface | (and it would be the amdgpu driver, not radeon, radeon is for the older stuff) | 07:22 |
| monokrome| | gnarface: ooooh thanks! | 07:23 |
| gnarface | np | 07:23 |
| monokrome| | I don't know what new one entails | 07:23 |
| gnarface | still uses mesa, everything else should be the same | 07:24 |
| gnarface | besides that firmware package and mesa dependencies, no other packages needed besides what is already in the kernel and xorg packages you should have already installed | 07:25 |
| gnarface | (i assume the window manager issue was based on a default assumption of hardware compositing, which wouldn't have worked without mesa and that firmware) | 07:26 |
| monokrome| | It was released December 8th 2020 | 07:26 |
| monokrome| | I'm guessing that's a newer one? | 07:26 |
| gnarface | yea, for sure | 07:27 |
| monokrome| | haha ok | 07:27 |
| monokrome| | thanx so much :) | 07:27 |
| monokrome| | last time I did this, it was fixed by simply removing the radeon driver | 07:27 |
| monokrome| | but that's not working this time since it was using amdgpu anyway | 07:27 |
| gnarface | there might be some grey area with cards that might be detected by both, but your card definitely is newer than any of those | 07:28 |
| onefang | When telling people to use official package mirrors close to them, don't forget to point them to https://pkgmaster.devuan.org/mirror_list.txt so they can look up which ones are where. | 10:30 |
| onefang | monokrome|: Which Devuan version? I have an RX 5600 XT, and for Beowulf I had to use a backport kernel and MESA from elsewhere, plus a small hack, to get 3D to work. Later Devuan's might work better. | 10:32 |
| micdud | tried switching to apt-cacher-ng from regular apt-cacher , and getting "Release' no longer has a Release file." most of the time , depending on which server i get deb.devuan.org sends me to . anyone use apt-cacher-ng with devuan? | 15:40 |
| rknop | Is anybody else having trouble getting updates from deb.devuan.org ? | 16:51 |
| rknop | I think the issue is that at least one mirror is forwarding http to https, so then the cert doesn't match the domain of deb.devuan.org | 16:52 |
| micdud | might be related to my problem, with apt-cacher-ng, which balks at https , but i thought if sources.list has http:// that what you will get but maybe not | 16:57 |
| rknop | If the server forwards http to https (which lots do nowadays), then you'll connect over https even if you start with http:// | 16:57 |
| rknop | Things work if I point directly at pkgmaster.devuan.org, but of course that obviates the whole benefit of using a mirror network | 16:58 |
| micdud | for a long time i was cherry picking servers and pointing to them to deb.devuan.org trough hosts file for speed reasons . might have to go back to that | 16:58 |
| onefang | https://sledjhamr.org/apt-panopticon/results/Report-web.html might help. There's a Protocol test for exactly that. | 18:15 |
| onefang | We have recently added several mirrors to deb.devuan.org. | 18:16 |
| onefang | And I've asked the mirror admins to help sort out these problems. | 18:16 |
| onefang | Plus, sorting out bugs in apt-panopticon. lol | 18:17 |
| ham5urg | Can I run with wicd my laptop in an hotspot-mode? | 18:17 |
| onefang | https://pkgmaster.devuan.org/mirror_list.txt for a full list of mirrors, so you don't have to point at pkgmaster. | 18:18 |
| rknop | Yeah, I randomly tried a few, and had problems with them, before giving up. (It was just a small update of a few packages.) | 18:19 |
| onefang | http://veritas.devuan.org/apt-panopticon/results/Report-web.html and https://borta.devuan.dev/apt-panopticon/results/Report-web.html are also running apt-panopticon. | 18:22 |
| golinux | ham5urg: wicd isn't in chimaera due to the move from python2 to python3 | 18:27 |
| golinux | Hopefully it will eventually get ported to python3 | 18:28 |
| onefang | So yeah, this week we have added more servers to deb.devuan.org, then saw a few where showing errors on apt-panopticon, so backed those out. Working on automating that so the ones in deb.devuan at any given moment passed all the tests sometime in the last ten minutes. And working on getting these new ones to work better. | 18:28 |
| golinux | ham5urg: There are other options like network-manager . . . | 18:32 |
| rkta | When an update arrives, apticron or iirc apt-listchanges, show a summary of the changes. Where can I find this information on the web? I deleted the email. | 19:11 |
| rkta | Doesn't need to be the web, though. | 19:12 |
| onefang | Um, don't delete the email? | 19:13 |
| rkta | onefang: that's really a clever trick... | 19:13 |
| rkta | ok, apt-get changelog seems to have. Is this information on the web? I want to talk about this with our apprentice, would be handy to just send him a link. | 19:18 |
| onefang | Think that info is in the .deb files themselves. /usr/share/doc/somepackage/changelog.Debian.gz or something. | 19:32 |
| rkta | yes it is | 19:40 |
| rkta | thanks | 19:40 |
| used____ | Hi. Is there anything in the vein of a phone dump/rsync script via usb or wifi in devuan? Or is anyone using such a script from online? Would like a link or a name please? | 21:00 |
| used____ | I see (j)mtpfs is not available, used to exist on jessie | 21:05 |
| used____ | Sorry, typo, it is available | 21:06 |
| onefang | I was just about to say that I use jmtpfs in Beowulf. | 21:07 |
| used____ | Thunar seems to be able to do it even w/o explicit jpmtpfs | 21:07 |
| used____ | Probably dep pulled in. I need cli scripting though. | 21:08 |
| used____ | https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/87762/how-do-i-transfer-files-between-android-and-linux-over-usb see rsync one liner by jjthomas | 21:09 |
| used____ | sudo apt install mtp-tools | 21:11 |
| used____ | I now have 2 packages pinned to previous to current version. vivaldi and ff. | 21:15 |
| used____ | BAD | 21:15 |
| used____ | I explained yesterday about ff snafu on upgrade. Breaks yt adblock. | 21:15 |
| systemdlete | well, now you've done it, Ollie. I can no longer run desktop on beowulf -- I think this MIGHT be due to the polkit update yesterday, but I am not sure. | 23:08 |
| systemdlete | I get this error parse_vt_settings: cannot open /dev/tty0 (permission denied) | 23:08 |
| systemdlete | ls -l /dev/tty0 shows | 23:08 |
| systemdlete | the device /dev/tty0 is owned by root.tty with perms 640 | 23:09 |
| systemdlete | some posts on the web claims this is due to wayland, but again, idk | 23:09 |
| systemdlete | at any rate... I'd like my desktop back! | 23:09 |
| systemdlete | I tried running with xfce and lxde, the latter of which worked until I rebooted today | 23:10 |
| systemdlete | I tried an older kernel too | 23:10 |
| systemdlete | I disabled auto login (lightdm) by commenting out the auto login user | 23:11 |
| systemdlete | so now I get a login prompt. I log in as the same user as with the autologin, and tried "startx" "startlxde" "startxfce4" -- no luck with any of those. | 23:12 |
| systemdlete | Maybe I forgot something simple. | 23:12 |
| systemdlete | Or maybe the linux->windows sex change operation ("systemd") over the past 12 years didn't go so well. | 23:13 |
| systemdlete | I should also mention this is a star linux VM. I just tried rebooting with another star linux VM cloned from the same zygote and it worked. So this might be peculiar to the particular VM. | 23:20 |
| systemdlete | I also restored an old (24 days ago) snapshot of the VM behaving badly. The desktop comes up (not too surprising). So this must be something that has changed recently. | 23:26 |
| systemdlete | (The other star VM has also been updated before the reboot, so apparently, the problem is just this one VM) | 23:27 |
| systemdlete | ping gnarface -- any ideas for my desktop problem? | 23:46 |
| systemdlete | (sorry to bug you, but you usually have useful info about these things) | 23:46 |
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