| iio7 | Hi. I am trying to determine how quickly Devuan gets packages from Debian after an update, but I can't seem to locate this information anywhere and AFAICT there is no clear commit log that shows this as it just points to the commit log from Debian. | 01:19 |
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| iio7 | Where/How can I find this information? | 01:20 |
| rrq | as you know, "your" current collection(s) of Devuan packages is defined by the apt's meta information on your machine, in the /var/lib/apt/lists/*Packages files, so the answers to a "when" question would be the date stamps on those files. | 01:25 |
| rrq | the path from having a package on one of debian's package stores to having it indexed by your *Packages file is comlicated | 01:26 |
| rrq | p | 01:26 |
| iio7 | I haven't got Devuan installed. I am evaluating this very issue in order to determine how long a delay there typical is. | 01:28 |
| rrq | it includes that every 2 minutes, Debian's Packages files, as available on deb.debian.org, are merged into Devuan's packages files, and uploaded onto pkgmaster.devuan.org | 01:28 |
| rrq | then the mirrors og deb.devuan.org will grab them at their own schedules; some do every half-hour I think, and some every few hours | 01:29 |
| rrq | og=of | 01:29 |
| iio7 | rrq, thank you. | 01:29 |
| onefang | https://sledjhamr.org/apt-panopticon/results/Report-web.html under the "Updated" column includes how often each package mirror updates. Most are "30 m". | 01:38 |
| iio7 | onefang, thank you very much! | 01:46 |
| jason1236 | hello | 03:13 |
| jason1236 | Ceres and SID cannot offer ARMEL !! | 03:13 |
| jason1236 | dist/sid/main/binary-armel/Pakcage not found | 03:13 |
| jason1236 | thank you debian to drop all architectures like nothingt ! debian != UNIVERSAL. BSD is universal. | 03:13 |
| jason1236 | the script ceres in debootstrap for armel is buggy. need a fix. | 03:14 |
| jason1236 | pandora cannot run devuan. | 03:14 |
| Xenguy | .oO( Why you ungrateful little wretch ) | 03:18 |
| Xenguy | What are you doing about it? | 03:19 |
| jason1236 | becaues of wayland and systemd. debian just dont care. | 03:19 |
| Xenguy | pfff | 03:19 |
| jason1236 | it is clear - that debian dont care. | 03:19 |
| Xenguy | Debian's been going south for a long time, but this is offtopic here | 03:20 |
| Xenguy | /join #devuan-offtopic if you like | 03:20 |
| golinux | Thank you Xenguy . . .:) | 03:23 |
| jason1236 | well , what about ARMEL? | 03:23 |
| golinux | Take it to #devuan-arm please | 03:23 |
| Xenguy | What about it? | 03:23 |
| jason1236 | v5 arm is only for BSD now? | 03:23 |
| jason1236 | linux debian drops armel? | 03:23 |
| golinux | Please move this conversation to a more appropriate place. | 03:24 |
| brocashelm | as go linux said, #devuan-arm is where you should address your concerns | 03:24 |
| brocashelm | *golinux | 03:24 |
| unclouded | Hi, my bank is asking for a snal mail address for a person or company in order to make a donation. Is there an address that I can use for Devuan? | 06:31 |
| golinux | unclouded: Which option did you choose - PayPal or CC? | 07:01 |
| unclouded | Bank Transfer | 07:01 |
| golinux | OK let me check out that option. Since I am not in EU that's not really an option for me. | 07:02 |
| unclouded | The bank site has picked up the SWIFT code from the IBAN but needs a postal address | 07:02 |
| golinux | Are you a nomad? | 07:03 |
| unclouded | You mean like a digital nomad? Not me | 07:03 |
| golinux | You don;t have a residence in the real world? Isn't that what they need to check you are using an account that you have a right to use | 07:05 |
| unclouded | Oh I see! The bank is not asking for *my* postal address but the address of the receiving entity | 07:05 |
| golinux | That is in the footer of the dyne.org website | 07:06 |
| golinux | Let me check something . . . | 07:06 |
| unclouded | I see it. Thank you. Sorry for the noise. | 07:07 |
| golinux | No problem . . . | 07:08 |
| golinux | Hopefully that is what you need. Should probably be explained better on the website though. | 07:09 |
| golinux | And thank you for supporting Devuan! | 07:09 |
| unclouded | Probably only update the web site if lots of people have the same problem | 07:10 |
| unclouded | It seems to have gone through. Thank you everyone working on Devuan to make sysadmin fun again. | 07:12 |
| golinux | There was a donation question maybe last week objecting to collection of personal information | 07:12 |
| unclouded | Weird. I didn't need to supply any personal information just now. Perhaps it was a card payment and address details were captured for AVS | 07:12 |
| golinux | I think that was via PayPal | 07:13 |
| unclouded | a payment card via PayPal might also capture AVS details. I think AVS only checks a couple of fields so you can put rubbish in the other fields | 07:14 |
| golinux | Well, I hope it goes through OK. | 07:14 |
| unclouded | Wikipedia *seems* to suggest that AVS won't happen if you're paying someone in another country anyway: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Address_verification_service | 07:17 |
| ninet | i am using beowolf 3.0 atm . i got a bug . i put a hdd into my laptop and run into some troubles. my background disappeared , well ctrl+alt F4 and starting startx solved that | 21:25 |
| ninet | i think i should just upgrade my distro . i found in the manual the upgrade from beowolf 3 to 4 | 21:26 |
| ninet | i didnt find upgrade from 3.0 to 3.1 | 21:26 |
| ninet | i just shoved my data on another partition . i dont want to take big risks atm . otherwise i would just download and install 4.0 | 21:27 |
| ninet | ofc i can just do this : https://www.devuan.org/os/documentation/install-guides/chimaera/upgrade-to-chimaera - is it save ? i got my data on a different partition as backup | 21:29 |
| fsmithred | there's no guide for going from 3.0 to 3.1. If you do 'apt update' and 'apt upgrade' in beowulf, you will be more up-to-date than 3.1. | 21:32 |
| fsmithred | upgrading to chimaera is usually smooth and easy. Depends somewhat on how much other stuff is installed. | 21:33 |
| ninet | i can risk it . i only have standard stuff installed . was wondering why 3.0 to 3.1 is missing . i do sudo apt update and upgrade regularly. ty | 21:40 |
| fsmithred | the .1 on the 3.1 just refers to the CD, which is stuck at that version unless we make new isos. (Won't happen for beowulf) | 21:41 |
| fsmithred | you have no display manager? If it's a lightweight system, it'll probably be easier to upgrade. | 21:42 |
| klaus | hi all | 23:07 |
| klaus | i installed devuan chimaera last week, and it works very nicely | 23:08 |
| TCZ | nce | 23:09 |
| klaus | i liked the good old dialog based term installer, everything on my laptop is supported, it runs cool and it's responsive. | 23:09 |
| debdog | it's so smooth, some people in here complain about too less talk sometimes | 23:10 |
| klaus | debdog, ;) | 23:10 |
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