| gnarface | the CUPS issue is you gotta figure out the full ipp:// url and type it in the field manually; the default is never correct, and from what i've seen also misleadingly simplified | 03:38 |
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| gnarface | (avahi might have some auto-magic way to figure it out but then it'll be messing with all your other shit too) | 03:49 |
| OnlyHuman | hi | 13:17 |
| Weezy1 | OnlyHuman, no greeters on duty it seems. hello | 14:09 |
| OnlyHuman | hi Weezy1 thanks for replying, | 14:28 |
| OnlyHuman | downloaded a chimera live iso, can I get from a repo a newer enlightenment version, it installed old e 0.24 | 14:29 |
| gnarface | OnlyHuman: 0.25.3 is in daedalus and ceres, i'm not seeing it in chimaera-backports, or at least it's not showing up here anyway: https://pkginfo.devuan.org/cgi-bin/policy-query.html?c=package&q=%5Eenlightenment%24&x=submit | 14:34 |
| OnlyHuman | hi gnarface thanks, | 14:36 |
| fsmithred | OnlyHuman, if you don't want the whole xfce environment, you might be better off using one of the installer isos instead of the live iso. | 14:40 |
| OnlyHuman | fsmithred, thanks, does that install ok in vbox? | 14:41 |
| fsmithred | start with a base system and then add what you want will be easier than removing what you don't want. | 14:41 |
| fsmithred | yeah, you can boot any of the isos in vbox | 14:41 |
| fsmithred | for netinstall, just make sure your vm has a network connection. You usually get that by default. | 14:42 |
| OnlyHuman | oh, never realised that misunderstood some texts then | 14:42 |
| OnlyHuman | not familiar with debian as been used to rpm distros | 14:43 |
| fsmithred | welcome to the deb world. runlevels 2-5 are all the same. | 14:43 |
| OnlyHuman | maybe if using debian base should use bodhilinux, was looking for a distro with decent enlightenment section on their forum | 14:44 |
| fsmithred | there are a few discussions about e on our forum. | 14:46 |
| OnlyHuman | fsmithred, thanks will look | 14:49 |
| dngian5x[m] | Hello there, I installed Devuan very recently (with Sysvinit | 15:12 |
| dngian5x[m] | ) | 15:12 |
| dngian5x[m] | s/// | 15:12 |
| onefang | Ah OnlyHuman left before I could point out that BodhiLinux uses a forked version of Enlightenment. Forked a long time ago to. | 15:15 |
| onefang | Welcome dngian5x[m]. | 15:15 |
| dngian5x[m] | onefang: Thanks | 15:16 |
| dngian5x[m] | I have a question regarding systemd, when I started to use Linux it was only a few years ago, and it was already the default on most distro that I used, how and why some distros have decided to use alternative inits systems? | 15:22 |
| djph | dngian5x[m]: because systemd is "the alternative", and it's not as much a silver bullet as some would say. Also, I'm far more familiar with sysvinit | 15:23 |
| dngian5x[m] | djph: I cam from Gentoo -> to Devuan, was searching for a easy to use systemd free workstation and Devuan seems like a good option to me | 15:24 |
| djph | yep | 15:24 |
| djph | IMO, it's more-or-less what Debian _should_ have done. | 15:25 |
| dngian5x[m] | djph: Isn't that partially not true? Nowadays Systemd is the default on most distros | 15:25 |
| dngian5x[m] | Not that I like it | 15:25 |
| djph | dngian5x[m]: just because it got shoved down distro's throats because they wanted to keep using gnome doesn't make it less of "an alternative" | 15:26 |
| djph | I mean, props to gnome/redhat for pulling that off | 15:26 |
| onefang | I'll remind everyone that this is a Devuan support channel, anything not related to support should be in #devuan-offtopic. | 15:28 |
| djph | oops, sorry onefang | 15:29 |
| dngian5x[m] | Ok | 15:29 |
| dngian5x[m] | onefang: About that, is there a way to harden sysvinit processes? | 15:32 |
| onefang | I'm off to bed soon, but I'm sure someone else can answer that. | 15:33 |
| onefang | And that'll be a good conversation for me to wake up to. B-) | 15:34 |
| dngian5x[m] | I'm completely new with Sysvinit management, I used Runit, openRC, systemd but never Sysvinit | 15:35 |
| onefang | You can use runit, openrc and s6 with Debian. | 15:36 |
| onefang | Er with Devuan. | 15:36 |
| onefang | Did I mention I should be sleeping soon? lol | 15:36 |
| dngian5x[m] | onefang: Yeah I saw that in the installation, but I sticked with sysvinit because it was the recommended option | 15:37 |
| OnlyHuman | hi is there a problem with servers for daedalus was trying to apt-get update but failed to fetch stuff | 19:40 |
| OnlyHuman | temporary failure resolving deb.duvuan.org | 19:43 |
| OnlyHuman | will try another day | 19:45 |
| lts | Try devuan instead of duvuan | 19:47 |
| OnlyHuman | lts, that was just a typo | 20:14 |
| brocashelm | deb.devuan.org is the round-robin; random servers are selected | 20:15 |
| brocashelm | you could also try pkgmaster.devuan.org | 20:15 |
| OnlyHuman | thanks will try hope iso has an easy to use editor for cli | 20:17 |
| OnlyHuman | giving up for today vi seems to be weird | 20:28 |
| OnlyHuman | nano looked better but again can't even exit it | 20:32 |
| OnlyHuman | maybe another time thanks | 20:34 |
| OnlyHuman | used nano, says the same apt-get update | 20:47 |
| OnlyHuman | gnight | 20:48 |
| dngian5x[m] | I have a problem with devuan repos | 23:40 |
| dngian5x[m] | For some reason `http://deb.devuan.org/merged/dists/chimaera-updates/InRelease http://deb.devuan.org/merged/dists/chimaera/InRelease http://deb.devuan.org/merged/dists/chimaera-backports/InRelease` are not working | 23:43 |
| dngian5x[m] | Other repos are working and computer internet is working | 23:43 |
| debdog | you're not the first one today with this problem | 23:47 |
| debdog | IDK what exacly is going on. | 23:48 |
| dngian5x[m] | I'm not the first ones with non working repos? | 23:53 |
| debdog | yes | 23:54 |
| debdog | see chanlogs (URL in topic) if you haven't been around and have the log yourself | 23:55 |
| brocashelm | is it just chimaera-backports? | 23:55 |
| brocashelm | are other chimaera repos working? | 23:56 |
| dngian5x[m] | brocashelm: `chimaera-updates chimaera-backports chimaera` | 23:57 |
| dngian5x[m] | Are not working | 23:57 |
| _ds_ | Looks fine from here (fetching diffs, though). | 23:58 |
| dngian5x[m] | `http://deb.devuan.org/merged/dists/chimaera-updates/InRelease http://deb.devuan.org/merged/dists/chimaera/InRelease http://deb.devuan.org/merged/dists/chimaera-backports/InRelease` | 23:59 |
| _ds_ | (well, some diffs…) | 23:59 |
| dngian5x[m] | Are my repos well configured? | 23:59 |
| _ds_ | Hmm, no -updates in my sources.list | 23:59 |
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