DRWhite | Hi folks, Does anyone here know wher eI can get access to any CentOS repositories for downloading and installing APT and associated packages please? | 03:29 |
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fsmithred | what does that mean? | 03:32 |
fsmithred | DRWhite, what are you trying to do? You want a centos repo that will let you do 'yum install apt' or something else? | 03:36 |
Xenguy_ | Good ol' Dr. White = ) | 03:38 |
DRWhite | Yes, I want to install APT | 03:42 |
fsmithred | if it's available for redhat-based distros, then probably a centos or fedora channel would have the answer | 03:43 |
DRWhite | Thoguth someone here might know how to get it, because it's a Debian Based package. So someone upgrading from RedHat to Devuan might know. | 03:47 |
lts- | If you want to move from Red Hat to Devuan, you need to reinstall the operating system from the beginning. In-place upgrades between different Linux distributions are AFAIK not among possible things | 04:05 |
DRWhite | Debian to Devuan is doable | 04:08 |
DRWhite | Devuan to Qubes is doable | 04:08 |
DRWhite | But I'm trying to get from CentOS 5.11 to Devuan. | 04:09 |
DRWhite | And I just can't get Aptitude to install | 04:09 |
DRWhite | Keeps sayign that rpmlib is mossing | 04:09 |
DRWhite | And yet I don't even have rpmlib on my Devuan Laptop | 04:09 |
DRWhite | So it is possible, but the version of CentOS is old. | 04:10 |
DRWhite | I can't upgrade it to 6 or later | 04:11 |
rwp | DRWhite, Devuan is an overlay on top of of Debian so moving between them is relatively simple and easy. | 05:32 |
rwp | DRWhite, CentOS/RHEL on the other hand is *HUGELY* different. It isn't really practical to migrate from one to the other. | 05:33 |
rwp | You are asking and therefore are disqualified from doing it but there was this crazy idea https://wiki.debian.org/DebianTakeover | 05:34 |
rwp | It's really an expert level process though. If you break it then you get to keep both halves. | 05:35 |
brocashelm | i wouldn't recommend anything outside of a fresh install. it's generally safe to back up your /etc dir for the new install and change a few files to match devuan | 05:38 |
rwp | Agreed. If you have to ask then the only good answer is a fresh install. | 05:47 |
rwp | For the deep lurkers they might find Marc Merlin's LISA 2013 presentation interesting. https://www.usenix.org/system/files/conference/lisa13/lisa13-merlin.pdf | 05:58 |
rwp | "Live Upgrading Thousands of Servers from an Ancient Red Hat Distribution to 10 Year Newer Debian Based One" | 06:00 |
rwp | One file at a time. | 06:00 |
av6 | hmm, looks like a bunch of packages in debian have recently started to depend on "systemd | systemd-tmpfiles", from openvpn to sudo and cryptsetup-bin | 09:33 |
brocashelm | seems to be a bug with one of the libglib2.0 packages (probably libglib2.0-bin) on ceres. i can't open thunar or my browser; "Trace/breakpoint trap" error message when using the shell | 09:33 |
av6 | they are not forked in devuan, so how do i install them? | 09:33 |
av6 | is there a bug on devuan issue tracker to track this mass dependency switch? | 09:35 |
brocashelm | av6: you can install the package systemd-standalone-tmpfiles to resolve that dependency issue | 09:36 |
av6 | brocashelm: apt refuses to install it, saying systemd-standalone-tmpfiles is a virtual package | 09:39 |
av6 | okay, it needed a specific version for some reason | 09:41 |
av6 | that was weird, but it's now installed | 09:41 |
av6 | thanks brocashelm, apt upgrade proceeded without any issue after installing that package | 09:50 |
brocashelm | np | 09:51 |
brocashelm | there is an alternative to sudo if you're interested: doas | 09:51 |
brocashelm | doesn't "need" systemd-anything packages | 09:51 |
brocashelm | it's installed through the opendoas package | 09:52 |
brocashelm | it's a port from *bsd to gnu/linux. pretty interesting | 09:52 |
av6 | hmm, and i could use wireguard instead of openvpn, but what would i use instead of cryptsetup? | 10:02 |
brocashelm | dunno, but you could maybe look into veracrypt as you can use it for both file and partition encryption | 10:07 |
brocashelm | https://veracrypt.fr/en/Home.html | 10:08 |
brocashelm | there are official deb packages there | 10:08 |
av6 | apparently there's also zulucrypt, in the repos | 10:11 |
av6 | never heard about it though | 10:11 |
mmlj4 | I have these two entries in root's cron: @reboot /root/bin/natscript.sh & and @reboot /root/wireguard/wgwrapper.sh & but wireguard comes up at boot, while iptables -L ends up emptpy. What would/could be coming after my script to override it? | 15:35 |
rwp | mmlj4, Hard to predict since it is your setup and every setup is unique. But maybe the natscript.sh is firing too early? | 21:27 |
rwp | I would put logging and tracing debugging into the script writing to a file in /var/tmp (which does not purge on a reboot) and verify what is happening at reboot time. | 21:27 |
rwp | Depending upon the system it is possible you have ufw installed since that seems to get sucked in by other things and it may be overriding everything. | 21:28 |
Akuli | any plans to delete /etc/chromium/policies? it makes many chromium settings show up as "Managed by your organization" and prevents me from tweaking them, renamed to policies_ and it works again | 23:10 |
rwp | Akuli, I have no idea but you might ask in #devuan-dev where I would ask about such things. | 23:18 |
Akuli | ok, i'll ask there :) | 23:18 |
rwp | AFAIK chromium is stock from Debian main. Meaning that really the authority for it is there. | 23:19 |
Jjp137 | there's discussion about the recent default search engine change that Debian did for their Chromium package in this bug report: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=956012#42 | 23:25 |
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