| systemdlete | fsmithred, thanks. But now I am realizing that this may be a silly thing to do in the first place. All of these devuan distros are really just... well, devuan. With different install configurations. So effectively, I'd be creating my own "spin" | 00:34 |
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| systemdlete | no? | 00:34 |
| systemdlete | What I mainly wanted to do, really, was to automate the partitioning portion, because that's the most arduous aspect of install. | 00:34 |
| systemdlete | I think what I might do is record the installation, then modify the install config file to refine it, or maybe just keep it around until the next release. | 00:37 |
| systemdlete | I suppose I could also use the preseed file that comes with star. modify that instead... hmm A few options | 00:39 |
| gnarface | preseed is the way you're supposed to do it | 01:02 |
| gnarface | but in a pinch if i couldn't get it working right i'd be tempted to make an empty disk image with the correct partition table and just script that into the installation process with dd and debootstrap | 01:02 |
| gnarface | (assuming you needed to do something weird like install to different size disks and resize the partitions) | 01:03 |
| rwp | I have used preseed for an extensive setup in the past. I have allowed it to bitrot. Because mostly now I debootstrap install. | 01:06 |
| rwp | But you can use the standard installer, Alt-F2 to get a terminal, manually partition, then use those manual partitions during the standard installation. | 01:06 |
| systemdlete | You know, you guys are both right. One would think that, by 2022, installing a new OS would be pretty easy to do, even with somewhat complex partitioning requirements. But good ol' calamares... | 01:30 |
| systemdlete | Yeah, I think I just might do the partitioning with a custom script and then run the usual installer. | 01:31 |
| systemdlete | Still, that would make things simpler for me. | 01:31 |
| gnarface | iirc i recall parted being fairly scriptable too | 01:31 |
| gnarface | there's probably a few ways to do it | 01:31 |
| systemdlete | sure. and lvm also | 01:31 |
| systemdlete | I've done lvm completely from scratch. | 01:32 |
| golinux | systemdlete: Do you know about this? https://git.devuan.org/MrReplikant | 01:34 |
| systemdlete | I'm still curious about install-debian, though. Where does it get its preseed.cfg from? I see about a dozen files called preseed.cfg scattered around the file system from within the live environment. I've checksum'd them all and there are really just 2; in fact, the inodes are identical also. But which one does it use? | 01:34 |
| golinux | Devuan-Calamares-ISO | 01:34 |
| golinux | Devuan expanding its horizons . . . | 01:35 |
| systemdlete | why are there 2 there? What is the difference between those? I can't tell from the descriptions. (and thanks, I might make use of these) | 01:35 |
| golinux | I have no idea. All I know is that they have appeared in the last few weeks. | 01:36 |
| systemdlete | I see. It looks like one is live image, the other maybe not | 01:36 |
| systemdlete | we don't know where/whom they came from? | 01:37 |
| golinux | You can open an issue there to talk to him. | 01:37 |
| systemdlete | I just thought it is funny.... files suddenly appearing out of nowhere. | 01:37 |
| systemdlete | Nah. | 01:38 |
| systemdlete | If I decide to use them and have a problem, I'll ring their bell. | 01:38 |
| golinux | I have talked to him quite a bit we have dabbled with the Excalibur theme etc. | 01:38 |
| golinux | Read his posts on DNG and devuan-dev and the forum John Faulk | 01:40 |
| systemdlete | ok | 01:40 |
| systemdlete | I mean, I take your word for it | 01:40 |
| golinux | Do you know where the ML repos are? | 01:41 |
| systemdlete | I've seen them on and off over the years, but I have forgotten. | 01:41 |
| systemdlete | That was where the systemd wars were fought, right? | 01:41 |
| golinux | This too . . . Call for testers! Arm64 Netinstall imagehttps://lists.dyne.org/lurker/message/20221215.021606.22414a9a.en.html | 01:42 |
| systemdlete | Best I've got here is FX8350. | 01:44 |
| systemdlete | but maybe that wasn't your point? | 01:45 |
| golinux | [DNG] Prototype Calamares Image https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/message/20221130.141957.1e74951d.en.html | 01:45 |
| golinux | He's doing a number of different things | 01:45 |
| golinux | I'm just doing your research for you . . . | 01:46 |
| golinux | Look on the forum too. | 01:46 |
| * systemdlete thinks golinux thinks I'm lazy | 01:46 | |
| * systemdlete knows golinux is right | 01:46 | |
| systemdlete | So it sounds like devuan is starting to branch away a bit from debian, which I would welcome | 01:47 |
| golinux | New things are being added by those who have the interest and initiative. | 01:48 |
| golinux | We arem | 01:48 |
| systemdlete | Will they become 'standard' as far as devuan is concerned, though? I would not mind the least if we diverged a bit | 01:48 |
| golinux | oops | 01:49 |
| golinux | We aren't asking. They are offerning | 01:49 |
| golinux | I don't have a crystal ball . . . :) | 01:49 |
| golinux | Time will tell . . . | 01:50 |
| systemdlete | You are not The Great Kreskin? | 01:50 |
| systemdlete | sure. | 01:50 |
| golinux | Now you are sending me on a search! | 01:50 |
| systemdlete | but maybe we are getting a bit OT here? | 01:50 |
| systemdlete | :D | 01:50 |
| pungentweasel | pkginfo.devuan.org down? | 04:10 |
| pungentweasel | nvm it's back | 04:22 |
| rrq | systemdlete: for preseed from a memorystick, add boot paremeter "preseed/file=/media/filename" (with "filename" the actual filename on the memory stick; it'll be mounted as "/media" by the installer | 04:39 |
| rrq | ) | 04:40 |
| golinux | pungentweasel: pkginfo.devuan.org is really s l o w | 04:43 |
| systemdlete | rrq: How do I specify which preseed file to use? | 08:28 |
| systemdlete | I can't seem to find doc on program arguments (or whatever mechanism is used for this) | 08:29 |
| systemdlete | Is there a control file? | 08:29 |
| gnarface | i think he means that's a kernel cmdline parameter | 08:29 |
| gnarface | iirc there's a default but i forget what it actually is | 08:30 |
| gnarface | i might be wrong about that anyway though | 08:30 |
| FilipZ | Hi! I just bought the USB Wireless adapter, and installed drivers for it. How could I configure it in the interfaces file? | 09:18 |
| rrq | systemdlete: if the name is "ugh" you give "preseed/file=/media/ugh" | 09:39 |
| rrq | you need to edit the boot command line and add that parameter before the -- | 09:40 |
| rrq | FilipZ: I guess it'll be named wlan1 | 09:40 |
| rrq | or possibly some obscure name | 09:41 |
| rrq | FilipZ: if it's named "woopsie" and you are a tad lazy, you'd add a line "iface whoopsie inet manual inherits wlan0" so as to reuse the wlan0 configuration for whoopsie. | 09:58 |
| rrq | oops: s/whoopsie/woopsie/g | 09:58 |
| gnarface | he's gone already | 10:11 |
| gnarface | but i think what he was probably actually looking for was that you need to add "wpa-psk" and "wpa-ssid" fields to an otherwise normal interfaces stanza | 10:12 |
| gnarface | (and then probably change the permissions on the file to only be readable by root) | 10:12 |
| gnarface | (that part isn't necessary just smart) | 10:12 |
| rrq | yes either that or I think he used a wpa-roam setup with wpa-gui to operate it | 10:41 |
| onefang | I'm having trouble getting any actual sound output from solfege on an ALSA system. It wont talk to ALSA unless python3-pyalsa is installed, but when it is the preferences window crashes so you can't select ALSA. It can talk to OSS, but using aoss didn't help, the /dev/* things it wants to use don't exist. It can talk to an external MIDI, but I haven't seen it actually try to send any MIDI events, so I can't redirect it to a soft synth. The | 23:42 |
| onefang | only actual external MIDI device I have is a keyboard with no sound output. | 23:42 |
| onefang | Or an alternative to solfege that actually works would be good to. | 23:44 |
| gnarface | one idea i've got is instead of using aoss try using the alsa-oss compatibility package | 23:48 |
| gnstaxo | does the devuan installer offer openrc? | 23:49 |
| onefang | alsa-oss compatibility package IS aoss. | 23:49 |
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