libera/#devuan/ Saturday, 2023-04-15

systemdleteI'm already asking this in #nfs but maybe someone here has already encountered this.  I have a chimaera nfsv4 server but a client on the same subnet cannot mount it.   I've checked over all the networking configuration of the server and client as well as the router.00:52
systemdleteRunning tcpdump on the server side, I can see nfs requests (port 2049) coming in, but no replies to the client.00:53
systemdleteIf nfs3 is still available, I'm willing to try it.   I just don't see it in apt search.00:54
phoggmy only suggestion, if you know the request hits the server, is to dial up nfs debug logging. Very informative00:57
phoggeven makes nfsv4 easy... well, easier00:57
systemdleteI tried running nfstrace but got very little00:57
systemdleteI also tried passing -s -d to the rpc.nfsd in the init file, which is hackerish, but that also gives little info00:58
systemdletehmmm00:59
systemdletetcpdump shows 2049 reaching tcpdump, but syslog is showing 2049 is blocked.00:59
systemdleteI'm a bit confused on tcpdump's idea of traffic (before filtering i.e.).  Does it get all the traffic even if blocked by the firewall?01:00
systemdleteok, I disabled the local firewall on the server and now it is responding.... but not with good news.01:02
systemdleteaccess denied01:03
systemdleteBut still, I wonder why the firewall, which is configured to allow 2049 through, is still managing to block it.01:03
systemdleteok, removed and re-added the rule and now fw lets it through...01:05
systemdleteanyway, now I'm getting access denied01:06
systemdletei used gufw to build my fw, and when I tried to modify the rule in gufw, it complained the rule was added by ufw01:08
systemdletebut I deleted and re-added the rule and now it works.01:08
systemdletephogg, where are are the nfs debug flags listed?01:15
systemdleteI'm gonna guess there is little to no docs on these flags01:18
systemdleteah, the old "-vh" option...01:25
systemdletemissed that the first 2 times I read the man page01:25
systemdletewell blow me down!   It is working now01:30
systemdletefwiw, thanks for the assist.   that debug tool is very handy as you said, phogg01:30
rwpsystemdlete, I know you opened port 2048 through the firewall but AFAIK NFS also requires UDP port 111 for the portmapper too.03:23
rwpSince I never use NFS on an Internet WAN but only on private LANs I usually allow all UDP between the NFS server and the NFS client.  That allows port 111 okay.03:23
rwpAnd then specifically port 2048 tcp from the NFS client.  Then everything works.  Possibly more restriction would be possible.03:24
rwpBut again I only operate NFS on private LANs and never on the public Internet WAN as there is bound to be possible attacks as the Internet is a hostile place.03:24
rustyaxeyea wireguard if you need nfs over internet03:42
rustyaxereally any service that you want to use over the internet, without involving public access to the service is a good candidate to throw over a vpn (such as wireguard)03:42
systemdlete21I must have another webchat open somewhere.   Anyway, I have a firefox browser that has lost its window manager controls.    The open/close/minimize buttons are there, but they share the tab bar.   It is the only window like this.   I tried restarting the xfce4 wm but no change.10:38
systemdlete21I realize this is, like, computers 101, but I am just not too adept with the desktop.   I'm still learning it after 20+ years...10:39
systemdlete21also tried closing and restarting firefox, but also no change.  I think I must have used a shortcut it knows by accident.10:41
brocashelmhas anyone tried using xfce 4.12 (the entire xfce/thunar/tumbler/etc.) on chimaera? main reason is i want gtk2 back without being on beowulf10:49
FatPhilI used to have terrible problems with NFS and portmapper not starting the right services, but that was over a decade ago.10:49
FatPhilEvery reboot would need a manual check that everything had been started, it was a right pain. Something to do with idiotic service start order dependencies.10:50
systemdlete21I solved the "NFS problem"10:50
FatPhilgood good10:50
systemdlete21it turned out to be a pebkam10:51
FatPhilthat's so often the case :)10:51
FatPhilactually, only the computer's between the keyboard and monitor, did you mean chair?10:51
systemdlete21What I was seeing in tcpdump was not actually traffic to the host; rather it was traffic within eth0, which is bridged for a VM.  I even have the address for it disabled so that it shouldn't allow traffic in or out.  But tcpdump has more access and is still able to read that interface.   I use a different interface to talk to the virtual10:52
systemdlete21network.10:52
systemdlete21If you don't specify an interface, tcpdump will use eth0, or whatever is the "first" interface10:53
brocashelm...never mind10:53
systemdlete21This  is what happens when you work on one problem for too long...10:53
systemdlete21actually, it was really between the brain that drives my keyboard and the machine I think10:54
systemdlete21and that brain farts a lot10:54
systemdlete21brocashelm, I am using chimaera here and I have xfce 4.1610:55
systemdlete21I didn't do anything extraordinary to get that.  Just whatever came with the install plus updates.10:55
systemdlete21oh, you want to downgrade?10:56
systemdlete21you want to get old functionality back.  I get it now.10:56
systemdlete21FatPhil, you are right.  I got the acronym wrong.10:57
systemdlete21It's late, and I need to sleep soon...10:57
systemdlete21I guess I'll try restarting the whole desktop, maybe the whole VM, when netdiscover finishes, which should happen sometime before year's end :D10:59
brocashelmsystemdlete21: yeah, to get gtk2 back since gtk3 makes theming a pain and adds like 300-400 mb more10:59
systemdlete21today, it seems, more is better.    And anyone who disagrees needs to get with it.11:00
systemdlete21bloat is good11:00
brocashelmrunning apt autopurge libgtk-3-0 and seeing the "prompt" makes me nervous11:00
systemdlete21alt-space gives me the window menu, so I can use that for now11:02
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