| AlexLikeRock | where report a program missing of chimaera ? | 02:49 |
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| Xenguy | What program? | 02:52 |
| AlexLikeRock | it does not matter . i whant to do a report | 02:54 |
| AlexLikeRock | for other people, it is not important, but for me and many it is basic. | 02:55 |
| Xenguy | looks like there's this: https://bugs.devuan.org/ | 02:56 |
| AlexLikeRock | ok; lest to install thunderbird, (i hop they are available), to report a bug | 03:00 |
| * AlexLikeRock laughs ironically | 03:00 | |
| Xenguy | good luck | 03:01 |
| AlexLikeRock | i found the dam rpogram "zsnes" but my PC are 64 bits , so this program they are available to i386 | 03:06 |
| brocashelm | what package is missing? are you sure it's not listed here? https://pkgmaster.devuan.org/bannedpackages.txt | 03:06 |
| brocashelm | >zsnes | 03:06 |
| AlexLikeRock | must be appear at my synaptic | 03:06 |
| brocashelm | what is this, 1999? :P | 03:07 |
| AlexLikeRock | yes | 03:07 |
| brocashelm | snes9x is much better | 03:07 |
| AlexLikeRock | a SUPER NINTENDO EMULATOR | 03:07 |
| brocashelm | yes, i get you | 03:07 |
| AlexLikeRock | i like more zsnes , its embed | 03:07 |
| AlexLikeRock | more easy to run | 03:07 |
| AlexLikeRock | let me search snes9x at the repos ... | 03:08 |
| brocashelm | it isn't, but i can link you to an unofficial deb file made by one of the snes9x authors | 03:08 |
| brocashelm | https://sites.google.com/site/bearoso/snes9x/snes9x_1.60-1_amd64.deb | 03:08 |
| brocashelm | install it with gdebi or run dpkg -i /path/to/package.deb | 03:09 |
| AlexLikeRock | Results for package pattern: snes9x : NOT FOUND! | 03:09 |
| AlexLikeRock | I DONT trus at google sites | 03:10 |
| AlexLikeRock | google its evil | 03:10 |
| brocashelm | because it isn't there. some idiot took it down centuries ago | 03:10 |
| AlexLikeRock | I would like it to be available in the repositories, it gives me more peace of mind. | 03:11 |
| brocashelm | do a RFP to debian | 03:11 |
| brocashelm | but it's not guaranteed | 03:11 |
| brocashelm | you could also go to the github of snes9x and compile or download the appimage | 03:11 |
| AlexLikeRock | they will just close the bug, because I use devuan | 03:11 |
| AlexLikeRock | ~_~ | 03:12 |
| brocashelm | https://github.com/snes9xgit/snes9x | 03:12 |
| AlexLikeRock | http://www.snes9x.com/downloads.php : yes , still alive | 03:14 |
| AlexLikeRock | well , this offictial page, send me to https://sites.google.com/site/bearoso : ok trusted! | 03:18 |
| AlexLikeRock | by the way .. brocashelm whytch once are your best point snes9x over zsnes ? | 03:20 |
| AlexLikeRock | i feel bad :-( | 03:25 |
| AlexLikeRock | "The Debian Icedove package is de-branded back to Thunderbird." | 03:25 |
| * AlexLikeRock shed a tear for freedom, | 03:26 | |
| AlexLikeRock | recomendation of ligth web browser | 08:34 |
| brocashelm | pale moon if you want gtk2 | 09:39 |
| brocashelm | seamonkey is good too | 09:39 |
| phogg | netsurf-gtk if you don't mind some sites not working | 10:33 |
| temp64 | i feel scammed, reinstalled devuan with runit and practically every init script is sysvinit-style, sitting in /etc/init.d | 18:28 |
| Xenguy | You feel "scammed" | 18:58 |
| temp64 | yeah | 19:00 |
| temp64 | fortunately runit works just fine with /etc/init.d so i'm not complaining | 19:00 |
| golinux | temp64: If you don't want to use the compatible sysvinit scripts feel free to write your own | 19:00 |
| DevWanda | Greetings ya'll! Just wanted to (for now) say thanks for Devuan! Ran into some glitches recently so I'm sure I'll be asking for some guidance/advice but still, thank you. | 19:37 |
| debdog | DevWanda: you came to the proper place to ask! | 19:39 |
| hacksenwerk | Hello. My old laptop gets on its knees while I rip a dvd with handbrake. I have 100% cpu usage and constant 76°C, fan spinning as hell... Some nice user in #handbrake told me, that I can configure my system so that handbrake (or also all other programs) does not use 100% and the cou doesn't get so hot. | 20:18 |
| hacksenwerk | Is that possible in devuan? | 20:22 |
| APic | hacksenwerk: You have Knees mounted on Your Laptop? | 20:24 |
| hacksenwerk | APic: :) | 20:24 |
| APic | hacksenwerk: nice and/or ionice | 20:25 |
| hacksenwerk | Do I have to change this file: cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_max_freq | 20:25 |
| hacksenwerk | APic: ah that is a command! | 20:26 |
| APic | No | 20:26 |
| APic | Two Commands | 20:26 |
| hacksenwerk | Yeah xD | 20:27 |
| hacksenwerk | So I can run: nice -some_option handbrake | 20:27 |
| hacksenwerk | ? | 20:27 |
| hacksenwerk | And that will make handbrake using less cpu? | 20:27 |
| hacksenwerk | nice has only --adjustment= | 20:28 |
| hacksenwerk | That? | 20:28 |
| APic | That. | 20:29 |
| APic | hacksenwerk: Though nice also accepts short Options | 20:30 |
| APic | hacksenwerk: man nice(1) | 20:30 |
| hacksenwerk | NOTE: your shell may have its own version of nice, which usually supersedes the version de‐ scribed here. Please refer to your shell's documentation for details about the options it sup‐ ports. | 20:30 |
| hacksenwerk | APic: Yeah I red that man, it is very short | 20:31 |
| hacksenwerk | That note is from that man. | 20:31 |
| hacksenwerk | default N=10 it says but what does it mean? | 20:31 |
| rwp | Using nice is fine of course but it simply adjusts the cpu scheduling priority *relative* to other processes also running. If there are no other processes running then even a fully nice'd process will still get 100% of the cpu. | 20:31 |
| APic | Yes. To keep Your Core Temperature down You still have to mess with cpufrequtils or something | 20:34 |
| APic | Or just kill the Processes that gobble Your CPU-Power and replace them with better ones | 20:35 |
| rwp | You _might_ be able to use "loadwatch" to cycle the heating program running-suspended-running in order to keep the temperature down. | 20:36 |
| hacksenwerk | rwp: Yeah only handbrake runs at the moment and some terminals (including this here running irssi) | 20:44 |
| hacksenwerk | APic: I see... :( | 20:45 |
| rwp | Or place the laptop into a refrigerator! :-) | 20:47 |
| APic | ffmpeg > handbrake | 20:47 |
| hacksenwerk | rwp: Oh no xD | 20:47 |
| hacksenwerk | APic: I'm not sure if ffmpeg will make a difference. Also I'm a noob in video stuff. I like that I can just put the dvd in, add some metadata and run my preset in handbrake. | 20:48 |
| hacksenwerk | Funny is that the process took as long as on my desktop pc with 4 cores @2,88GHZ | 20:53 |
| hacksenwerk | My laptop here has 2 cores with @2,33 GHZ | 20:53 |
| hacksenwerk | Ok as it seems it will be easier to use a rpi with an external disc drive connected to it over ssh for ripping dvds. | 21:14 |
| hacksenwerk | Hmm.. can i control remote a xserver? | 21:15 |
| hacksenwerk | I would install a xserver and handbrake-gtk on that pi and than remote control it with my devuan machine. | 21:16 |
| hacksenwerk | So I do not need an extra monitor and mouse. | 21:16 |
| debdog | hacksenwerk: just ssh into that machine and run handbrake (configure ssh/d accordingly) | 21:19 |
| hacksenwerk | debdog: but i would liek to use the gtk version. | 21:20 |
| hacksenwerk | *like | 21:20 |
| n4dir | i think what you ask for is ssh -X handbrake | 21:20 |
| n4dir | probably a bit more fine-grained. | 21:20 |
| hacksenwerk | n4dir: ah! | 21:20 |
| debdog | well | 21:20 |
| n4dir | been ages, you might get away with just -X , i am not sure. but many should know | 21:21 |
| debdog | I am too lazy for the -gtk part :P | 21:21 |
| debdog | hacksenwerk: just ssh into that machine and run "handbrake-gtk" from that shell (configure ssh/d accordingly) | 21:21 |
| debdog | yah, basically ssh -X | 21:22 |
| n4dir | i think ssh and then run handbrake doesn't work | 21:23 |
| debdog | it works, just tried it. (if ssh/d is configured accordingly) | 21:24 |
| hacksenwerk | Ok I will try that tomorrow. | 21:24 |
| hacksenwerk | I need to setup the pi first. | 21:24 |
| hacksenwerk | Thank you guys! :) | 21:25 |
| n4dir | debdog: didn't know that, nor wouldn't know how to edit sshd_config accordingly. | 21:26 |
| n4dir | not sure if it would add an advantage over just ssh -X user@IP handbrake | 21:26 |
| n4dir | but good to know | 21:26 |
| rwp | ssh -X command; is basically the same as ssh -X logging in then running the command in the logged in shell. | 21:26 |
| debdog | n4dir: I do such things a lot. and I am too lazy to each time type that extra -X | 21:27 |
| n4dir | yeah, it sure is exhausting. i agree. | 21:28 |
| debdog | hehe | 21:28 |
| n4dir | :-) | 21:28 |
| n4dir | but wait. | 21:28 |
| * debdog tom waits | 21:28 | |
| hacksenwerk | I'm not sure how that works: will that open a window where I can see the desktop of the pi then? | 21:28 |
| n4dir | well, no, to tired to get the head in it. | 21:28 |
| n4dir | hacksenwerk: usually only one app, so in this case handbrake | 21:29 |
| hacksenwerk | n4dir: ok great | 21:29 |
| rwp | I don't want the burden of forwarding X and worrying about the security ramifications all of the time. Just when I need it so I only add -X when I need it. | 21:29 |
| debdog | hacksenwerk: example: on my Desktop running Xorg and xterm I do "ssh user@laptop" and after login I type "xterm". this xterm window will be displayed on my desptop PC even though it's running on the laptop. | 21:30 |
| hacksenwerk | debdog: cool! :) | 21:31 |
| debdog | rwp: good point! I only allow ssh connections from the internal network. for a server reachable from outside this is not adviceable | 21:32 |
| debdog | *advisable | 21:32 |
| n4dir | the real question is can you or can you not forward all of the remote session, WindowManager and all, via say ssh | 21:32 |
| n4dir | not for him, for me | 21:32 |
| hacksenwerk | But alsoi a bit sad that I have to use another computer now.... With audio cd ripping my laptop has no problems, I finally learned how to use whipper and it's great. But video stuff.... Before that dvd task I rescaled some monster 4k video from the web with ffmpeg and on that task my cpu was burning too... :( | 21:32 |
| n4dir | there was xhost and a simlilar program, but i used it for other stuff. ages ago | 21:33 |
| debdog | n4dir: I think for that a remote desktop is a better solution | 21:33 |
| n4dir | debdog: if you do such a lot, then i believe you. thanks | 21:33 |
| debdog | hacksenwerk: OTOH 75 °C is not _that_ hot | 21:33 |
| hacksenwerk | debdog: yes because the fan is really good. | 21:34 |
| debdog | hehe | 21:34 |
| hacksenwerk | But I don't think it does _not_ shorten the lifetime of the machine | 21:35 |
| debdog | output from sensors on my laptop: | 21:35 |
| debdog | Core 0: +50.0°C (high = +84.0°C, crit = +100.0°C) | 21:35 |
| hacksenwerk | Also it is very loud and I can not do any other task that need a bit more cpu than a terminal while ripping. | 21:35 |
| debdog | right, noise is a problem :/ | 21:35 |
| hacksenwerk | Core 0: +45.0°C (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C) | 21:35 |
| n4dir | i'd do it at the end of the day, before going to bed | 21:36 |
| n4dir | well, or having a walk, or do the dishes, or whatever | 21:36 |
| hacksenwerk | n4dir: lol that dvd i ripped today had one track (about 90 minutes) and that took me over 3 hours :D | 21:36 |
| n4dir | similar here when i ripped one with handbrake, did it exactly once in my life. | 21:37 |
| n4dir | and than the movie was shit. lol | 21:37 |
| hacksenwerk | n4dir: You did not watch it before? o0 | 21:37 |
| hacksenwerk | Or the quality of the video was bad? | 21:37 |
| debdog | at least you gained experience | 21:38 |
| n4dir | no, the movie itself was shit, the quality was good | 21:38 |
| hacksenwerk | n4dir: lol | 21:38 |
| hacksenwerk | That's a pain. | 21:38 |
| hacksenwerk | I only buy movies that I like. :) | 21:38 |
| hacksenwerk | For the rest there is this... I don't know.. they call it "internets" | 21:39 |
| hacksenwerk | ;) | 21:39 |
| n4dir | i heard of it. It seems like a new thing from the USA | 21:39 |
| hacksenwerk | But it's funny I use an external dvd drive on my laptop and it's much quiter than the internal. | 21:40 |
| debdog | DO NOT GO ON THE INTERNETZ!! you'll see stuff that can't be forgotten! | 21:40 |
| hacksenwerk | n4dir: n4dir: yeah right. but however, I don't think it will catch on... | 21:41 |
| n4dir | neumodischer Quatsch | 21:41 |
| hacksenwerk | debdog: Well that's true. | 21:41 |
| hacksenwerk | n4dir: :) | 21:41 |
| hacksenwerk | debdog: using some nsfw filter for video sites, you donÄt know if the next clip will traumatize you... | 21:42 |
| n4dir | i do like the entertainment aspect of the internet, but what i enjoy most is being able to talk to people from all over the world, other social structures, such stuff | 21:42 |
| hacksenwerk | n4dir: Totally agree! | 21:42 |
| hacksenwerk | It's the best part and sharing knowledge. | 21:43 |
| hacksenwerk | And videos of kittens of course... | 21:43 |
| n4dir | well, it is obvious that kittens are the best | 21:44 |
| hacksenwerk | Or the best: Videos of kittens that talk to other kittens throught the internet! | 21:44 |
| n4dir | pro-tip: search for "cat fights in slow-motion" on youtube. It is awesome. | 21:44 |
| hacksenwerk | https://tenor.com/view/cat-crazy-cat-keyboard-cat-fast-gif-5753018 | 21:45 |
| n4dir | nice | 21:45 |
| hacksenwerk | That's a geeky cat! | 21:46 |
| hacksenwerk | Oh man we talking oft again in not-oft... ^^' | 21:46 |
| debdog | https://beggabaur.rocks/LachschDu/idog.jpg | 21:46 |
| n4dir | debdog: that, seriously, is my number one when it comes to memes (if that is how it is called) | 21:47 |
| hacksenwerk | debdog: lol | 21:47 |
| golinux | hacksenwerk: Do you have an off-button? Or do you torture yourself like this 24/7? JC | 21:48 |
| hacksenwerk | golinux: I don't torture anyone. | 21:49 |
| hacksenwerk | torture is evil. | 21:49 |
| debdog | oh my, we somehow moved away from #OT | 21:49 |
| hacksenwerk | debdog: yeah ^^' | 21:50 |
| hacksenwerk | On irssi it is not easy to see sometimes | 21:50 |
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