libera/#devuan/ Wednesday, 2023-08-23

critrjackd problem solved. fix: qjackctl > setup > interface > hw:Generic_1 (same as hw:2)02:35
critrgnarface: and everyone else who helped. Thank You!02:43
micdudcan anyone test ntpdate or ntpdate-debian on daedalus , returns (OSError: [Errno 97] Address family not supported by protocol) (or is it just me when ipv6 disabled in kernel)04:10
micdudsolved. got to run with -4 flag now i guess (if no ipv6)04:11
gnarfacehmm, i'm not seeing that problem here, so either they just changed it or it only happens if ipv6 is enabled on your ntp server04:19
micdudipv6 is disabled in kernel on client machines ,  had similar probs before . if i do not use it just turn it off04:29
rwpHaving IPv6 disabled is getting to be the unusual situation these days.  Even when I don't have working IPv6 I don't completely disable it here.04:35
fluffywolfthat sounds like a bug somewhere, but I'm not sure where.  it shouldn't be trying to make ipv6 connections if they're not possible, and it should be sanely falling back...04:37
micdudi like output of netstat,ss and other command to to be clean , so i can glance quickly instead of trying to figure out what belongs where . sometimes ipv4 and ipv6 wildcards seem the same04:38
micdudit is common , last time it was sftp server that would not start with ipv6 disabled04:38
rwpSeems like the code could try and detect if IPv6 is available and avoid it if not.  And the reverse for IPv4.04:38
rwpMost of the traditional daemons have options to avoid -4 -6 though.  So just seems like a pretty minor nit rather than anything to get to excited about.04:40
fluffywolfdunno, standard utilities should work on most systems by default...05:11
micdudhow is daedalus treating everyone ? so far i had a few quirks that were not there before (ntpdate and ipv4only thing, missing udev persistent-network.rulles generation, xfce desktop install in aptitude after a basic clean install was quirky to say the least)05:16
fluffywolfI haven't tried it yet.  one of my servers is ipv4 only, so I'll need to remember not to upgrade it...05:17
fluffywolfboots with...05:17
fluffywolfsysctl -w net.ipv6.conf.all.disable_ipv6=105:17
fluffywolfsysctl -w net.ipv6.conf.default.disable_ipv6=105:17
brocashelmdaedalus has been fine; like a ceres that stopped updating all the time (switched from it when the testing freeze occurred)05:18
digixhm, and here I was doing  "ip -family inet6 address flush dev eth0"05:18
digixbut I guess disabling ipv6 with sysctl is better.05:19
micdudGRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="ipv6.disable=1" in /etc/defaults/grub for me05:19
fluffywolftry disabling it with sysctl and see if you still get errors?05:19
micduddo not forget to grub-update05:19
fluffywolflol, at least three people in this channel with ipv6 disabled.  clearly utilities should not break if it's disabled.05:20
* brocashelm never uses ipv605:20
fluffywolfit works on one of my servers05:20
onefangWish I had IPv6 at home, but maybe I'll get it back at the next home.05:20
micdudi will start using when a single website/service i visit online stops working with ipv4 !!!!05:20
digixI DO use ipv6.. on vpn connection.. but not on eth0.05:20
fluffywolfthe other one is a linode that predates them having ipv6, and thus was never assigned an ipv6 address, and Breaks Badly (TM) if you have ipv6 on.05:20
onefangIf I don't get it at my next home, I'll just tunnel it from my main server.  Think I have enough IPv6 addresses to spare.  B-)05:21
fluffywolfhowever the virtualization works, networking badly fails when the kernel tries using it but the host isn't set up for it.05:22
micdudgoogle sort or fudge ipv6 on android by not having dhcp / so managing/accounting  a network with androids is a hastle05:23
fluffywolfeverything to do with android, and google in general, is a hassle.05:24
onefangToybox is part of Android these days, it has dhcp support if I recall.05:24
fluffywolfpassword2:  I wrote a program to make 3d mazes in the mid '90s...  it output vrml so you could solve them in your browser in first person.05:31
fluffywolfgrr, wrong window05:31
* onefang wonders if fluffywolf would like to convert that maze program to OpenSim? B-)06:15
fluffywolfI don't think the code for it has existed for about 30 years now...06:22
systemdleteI booted from daedalus network install and immediately (before answering any questions) went to a console (alt-F2).  I tried to mount /dev/sdb1 on /mnt, both of which seem to exist, but it failed.  mount told me that something was not valid (it didn't specify whether it was /dev/sdb1 or /mnt that was invalid).12:50
systemdleteI booted into rescue mode, waited until it prompted me for the language, and went to the console.12:52
rrqif you go too early the installr hasn't stocked up on its modules so might not know about all filesystems13:07
rrqand you need to tell filesystem: mount -t iso9660 /dev/sdb1 /cdrom13:07
spine-o-saurusshould be available immediately13:11
van2022How to migrate to Daedalus 5.0?13:44
digixvan2022: from Chimaera?13:48
van2022yes13:49
digixfirst, make sure you're updated..with  apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade13:49
digixthen  cd /etc/apt && cp sources.list sources.list.old && cat sources.list.old | sed s/chimaera/daedalus/g && apt-get update && apt-get upgrade && apt-get dist-upgrade13:51
digixpretty much :)13:51
digixoh fuck, screwed up a little..13:52
digix that should be   sed/chimaera/daedalus/g >sources.list13:53
digix(no harm done though)13:57
leafwiz rwp: Hey, responding to your answer to my question about my kernel not building after a system upgrade17:57
leafwizThe output from the file /var/lib/dkms/rtl88x2bu/5.13.1/build/make.log : https://pastebin.com/9ihDzcBc17:57
leafwiz(from yesterday :) )17:57
systemdleterrq:  I find that by:  modprobe ext421:20
systemdletethen I can mount the drive21:20
systemdletethanks for the pointer21:20

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