| jjakob | which package to install to get info pages? info or texinfo? | 00:14 |
|---|---|---|
| debdog | yes to both | 00:18 |
| debdog | well, just info, IIUYP | 00:20 |
| debdog | package info: Description: Standalone GNU Info documentation browser | 00:25 |
| onefang | I find pinfo to be nicer. | 00:25 |
| debdog | we should do it the mocrosoft way: no variety | 00:27 |
| n4dir | Hey. One of you has zynaddsubfx installed. I see version is: 3.0.6-6 | 03:38 |
| n4dir | and as far i can tell that should be the new graphical interface, but it is the old one | 03:38 |
| n4dir | at packages debian there also is a screenshot of the new version, not the old one | 03:39 |
| rwp | In Unstable I am now seeing htop display mangled. It looks like this: https://www.proulx.com/tmp/htop-bars-broken.png | 06:29 |
| rwp | But htop has not been updated since March. So it must be something else. Is anyone else on Unstable and can confirm or deny this htop breakage? | 06:30 |
| rwp | It's the codependent libncursesw6 and libtinfo6 pair version 6.4+20231118-1 which is broken! I downgraded to the version still in Testing and the problem disappears. | 06:35 |
| rwp | It's been reported. Upstream bug and upstream has acknowledged and will fix. https://bugs.debian.org/1056340 | 06:38 |
| rwp | If running Unstable I suggest "apt-mark hold libncursesw6 libtinfo6" until the fix for that bug clears Unstable. Pull the previous out of Testing and downgrade if already installed. | 06:43 |
| al1r4d | gnarface: there is no "Auto-mute mode" on my alsamixer | 08:04 |
| al1r4d | i'm using pulseaudio btw | 08:05 |
| al1r4d | joerg, let me check | 08:05 |
| gnarface | al1r4d: you'd have to bypass the pulseaudio "device" that alsamixer sees by default while pulseaudio is running to access the hardware driver's interface to see it, if it has one (which it may not). it might work to hit F6 and select the device from the list, otherwise you'll have to stop pulseaudio first | 08:13 |
| gnarface | to be clear, the first task is to just figure out whether it's on or not already | 08:14 |
| systemdlete | wicd for daedalus? Has it been replaced? | 09:53 |
| gnarface | i think it never got updated to python3 so it got pulled | 09:55 |
| gnarface | that's what i heard last anyway | 09:55 |
| systemdlete | thanks | 09:55 |
| systemdlete | and how do daedalus users connect to wireless these days--ON THE DESKTOP (not cli)? | 09:55 |
| systemdlete | I know they can always use cli | 09:55 |
| systemdlete | does network manager now handle what wicd used to do? | 09:56 |
| gnarface | i assume most people are using network-manager or connman | 09:56 |
| systemdlete | ah | 09:56 |
| systemdlete | connman | 09:56 |
| systemdlete | right | 09:56 |
| systemdlete | forgot about that | 09:56 |
| gnarface | maybe someone has a unofficial python3 build of wicd around here, i dunno | 10:00 |
| systemdlete | nah | 10:01 |
| systemdlete | I've installed connman and I'll try one of the front ends for it | 10:01 |
| systemdlete | thanks, gnarface | 10:01 |
| gnarface | np | 10:01 |
| |cos| | One do get a quite quirky error if setting mirror/http/directory to /devuan rather than /merged, with the installer oddly interpreting that as a request to install oldoldstable. Unexpected! | 10:31 |
| joerg | >>[21 Nov 2023 17:41:18] <n4dir> i also figured out i can use "alsamixer -c <number>" to make it use the internal soundcard<< or F6: https://i.imgur.com/A3mmZDW.jpg | 13:52 |
| joerg | also useful: `/usr/sbin/alsactl -f - store|less` | 14:08 |
| joerg | `man alsactl` >>alsactl is used to control advanced settings for the ALSA soundcard drivers. It supports multiple soundcards. If your card has features that you can't seem to control from a mixer application, you have come to the right place. […] Editing the configuration file by hand may be necessary for some soundcard features (e.g. enabling/disabling automatic mic gain, digital output, joystick/game ports, some future MIDI routing options, etc).<< | 14:11 |
| n4dir | Using a third party repo i get a warning about "key stored in /etc/apt/trusted.gpg, see DEPRECATION" in apt-key". | 21:54 |
| n4dir | full error message is here: https://0x0.st/HwBI.txt | 21:54 |
| n4dir | what to do | 21:54 |
| Wonka | have you read the DEPRECIATION chapter in the apt-key man page? | 21:55 |
| golinux | Don't use third party repos? You know that's not a good idea, n4dir . . . ;) | 21:56 |
| n4dir | golinux: well, to say "i need them" is a bit of a stretch, but they offer quite some stuff i like | 21:56 |
| golinux | Aye . . . there's the rub . . . | 21:59 |
| n4dir | golinux: though, having that in mind, on this installation i looked how far i could get with the audio-production apps only offered by devuan itself. And i got to say: you get pretty far | 22:01 |
| rwp | You could yourself re-stitch things and move the trusted apt key around into a file to avoid the deprecation warning. | 22:02 |
| n4dir | rwp: the web said to cp it to /etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d and that worked | 22:02 |
| rwp | Basically instead of having all keys in one keyfile the new way is to have one key per file in the .d/* directory of keys. | 22:13 |
| n4dir | ah, i see. Thanks | 22:16 |
| n4dir | aptitude search "?narrow(?installed,?not(?archive(excalibur)))" | 22:19 |
| n4dir | that doesn't seem to work to install all packages installed not from the devuan excalibur repo. Anyone can help? | 22:20 |
| n4dir | looks like using "testing" instead of excalibur did the trick | 22:21 |
| * rwp has never warmed up to aptitude, so no idea | 22:21 | |
| n4dir | rwp: me neither, but i do know it can do that one thing. And a bit other stuff which can help. But i don't reall know it besides those things | 22:22 |
| fsmithred | https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=511 Package manager magic incantations | 22:27 |
| fsmithred | n4dir, ^^^ | 22:28 |
| n4dir | saw it, let me look there | 22:28 |
| fsmithred | it's a repost from fdn | 22:28 |
| n4dir | that is great | 22:29 |
| n4dir | searching for the above aptitude command always takes quite a while. Next time i will know where i have to look | 22:29 |
| n4dir | did i say thanks? Better safe than sorry: thanks | 22:30 |
| fsmithred | yw | 22:30 |
| n4dir | last question: for testing/excalibur only one line in sources.list is needed, right? | 22:33 |
| n4dir | one entry to be more specific | 22:33 |
| fsmithred | yes | 22:34 |
| fsmithred | there's no -updates or -security | 22:34 |
| fsmithred | just the one main repo | 22:34 |
| n4dir | ok, i thought so, but wanted to be sure | 22:35 |
| fsmithred | you can add contrib non-free non-free-firmware | 22:35 |
| fsmithred | if needed | 22:35 |
| n4dir | replaced all apps which slipped in from third party repos by the ones in devuan. Good. | 22:36 |
| fsmithred | cool | 22:36 |
| n4dir | gets down to like 5 or 6 apps from third party, and none of them is really needed | 22:37 |
| n4dir | for audio stuff | 22:37 |
| n4dir | helm, surge, both synthesizers, seq64, newer version of seq24 which is in repos, sfizz, which reads some audio file format, probably sfz or such | 22:38 |
| fsmithred | never heard of those | 22:55 |
| n4dir | i am fine with amsynth and zynaddsubfx. seq24 is interesting, if you quickly want to create a littel loop for some synths. sfizz i needed for a certain purpose, but now i just use fluidsynth (which reads sf2 files, not sfz files, which sfizz does) | 22:57 |
| n4dir | i could live without all of it, seq24 sure is fun for me though | 22:57 |
| n4dir | in other words: there really is a lot already in the devuan repo | 22:58 |
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