libera/#devuan/ Monday, 2024-01-15

Guest6798looking for GRUB install for devuan distros,00:04
Guest6798Three diff distros tried, all failed to install GRUB.00:06
Guest6798All three demos work fine from ISO boot.00:06
Guest6798Suspect DELL laptop BIOS?   Boot msg 'access restricted' ???🤠️00:10
Guest6798⌛️00:24
gnarfaceif Guest6798 comes back tell them it's probably some efi or secure boot issue, yes. there's a fix...06:20
debdogI wish I had gnarface's patience06:29
al1r4dlack of patience, way of failed life :))06:37
user67875Hi11:41
user67875How to remove notebook lid close to turn off pc?  I use ctwm and daedalus. Debbootstraped11:41
djphuser67875: i turned off the lidswitch state check thing ... hang on, lemme find my notes.11:51
user67875How can it be editrd? In etc directpiry ?11:52
user67875Daedalus11:52
user67875Arm64 pbpro11:52
djphWell, for me, I had to do it via /etc/acpi/wakeup, as well as somewhere else (basically, "no computer, there's no lid switch at all...")11:55
djphah, (1) grep PWRB /etc/acpi/wakeup ; should say something like "platform:PNP0C0C:00" (note: this ID is somewhat mfg specific; might need 'grep enabled /etc/acpi/wakeup' )11:58
djph(2) echo PNP0C0D:00 > /sys/bus/acpi/drivers/button/unbind11:59
djph(3) if it behaves, add the command from (2) to /etc/rc.local12:01
djphuser67875: ^^12:01
user67875Why the hell lid closes shutdiwn, it is not systemd nornally? By the way12:12
djphlidswitch here would suspend, not shut-down12:24
djphalthough acpi-suspend is kind of a moving target that doesn't always work ...12:25
rbmarliere4117:01
djphrbmarliere: no, that seems to be the wrong answer.17:06
unixman_home4217:08
firefly2fourty two? sounds familiar17:19
tarxvfzI think fourty two is exactly the answer of the question for life, universe and everything else? -- see Douglas Adams...17:22
* gnarface points to #devuan-offtopic17:22
djphoops17:23
firefly2what's the main reason for running devuan? is it hate for systemd?17:25
djphhate? no, that requires effort.17:25
rustyaxepreferring a system that actually works how i set it up to, not does what it thinks i want it to?17:26
gnarfacethe main reason is compatibility17:26
gnarfaceparticular old expected behaviors17:26
gnarfacebut security and performance are also objectively good reasons17:26
gnarfaceand also it's offtopic17:27
rustyaxetwo things for me- first off i dont trust the security of systemd and its millions of lines of code; secondly, i'd rather not have to fight with my devices to get them to *always* behave how i tell them; systemd seems to think it knows better than the admin in many cases17:27
rustyaxeNice thing in devuan is, get to keep the nice bits of debian while avoiding that mess17:27
firefly2i i hear you.17:28
rustyaxeafter updating testing recently, i lost the ability to set my screen backlight brightness with the slider in xfce power manager; i can manipulate /sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight/brightness directly and change it17:30
gnarfacemaybe that path has changed?17:32
masonAlmost certainly usrmerge fallout.17:35
masonrustyaxe: If you can figure out what process XFCE is using to manipulate the /sys knob, it'd be super useful to strace it, which will make whatever bad assumption it's making pop right out.17:37
rustyaxeinteresting17:38
rustyaxekill -9'ing the /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/xfce4/panel/wrapper-2.0 process it restarts automatically; it works after that- but the initial start of it on logging in doesnt. Lol17:39
rustyaxeFor another day to deal with i suppose17:39
gnarfacecheck permissions too17:40
gnu_srsI volunteer:  LeePen?22:22

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