| Nematocyst | apt upgrade failed to build dkms module going from 6.1.0-17-amd64 to 6.1.0-18-amd64. using daedalus | 04:18 |
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| Nematocyst | ERROR: modpost: GPL-incompatible module nvidia.ko uses GPL-only symbol '__rcu_read_lock' | 04:18 |
| gnarface | Nematocyst: yep. it's pretty clear that's a gratuitous case of "ha-ha we broke it on purpose what are you going to do, buy someone else's hardware?" | 04:25 |
| gnarface | i recommend just keeping the -17 kernel for now unless you need that samba fix | 04:26 |
| gnarface | there's a bug report up on debian's tracker about it but there's nothing that can be done until nvidia fixes it | 04:26 |
| gnarface | (and this seems like the type of thing that is only broke to prove a point) | 04:27 |
| Nematocyst | how to make sure I can boot tomorrow? just select the .17 kernel? or should I attempt to remove .18? | 04:27 |
| gnarface | either would work, but you might as well remove -18 because they'll iterate the number again when they fix it | 04:28 |
| Nematocyst | gnarface, ok, thx. fun stuff. | 04:28 |
| gnarface | no problem. FYI, AMD doesn't do this shit. | 04:29 |
| gnarface | i know that doesn't help right now, but you know... keep it in mind for the future. :) | 04:29 |
| Nematocyst | well, i do have another box with an ryzen APU | 04:30 |
| gnarface | Nematocyst: oh. to be clear, reboot to -17 first before you remove -18 | 04:31 |
| Nematocyst | thx. that's what i'm running. saw the error on apt upgrade, and was pretty sure it would bork things. haven't attempted to reboot yet. | 04:31 |
| gnarface | you might have to manually re-trigger the dkms build too, not sure about that ("dkpg-reconfigure nvidia-dkms" or "dkms autoupdate" or something like that) | 04:32 |
| gnarface | oh, ok. you're probably fine then | 04:32 |
| gnarface | the -18 kernel will still boot after this error but the GUI doesn't start right | 04:33 |
| gnarface | but you could theoretically ssh in to fix it if you had to | 04:33 |
| ted-ious | Is devuan going to get an update to the live or installer iso's to match bookworm 12.5? | 05:17 |
| gnarface | fsmithred_: ted-ious has been asking about updated live isos | 05:28 |
| ted-ious | I'm guessing it's complicated enough that users shouldn't try to do it themselves. | 05:30 |
| ted-ious | But if I could just run a script every month and it built me a new one I would be happy to dedicate a vm for that. | 05:31 |
| gnarface | ted-ious: uh, i don't actually know for sure that's the case. i think they build them with this, take a look: https://git.devuan.org/devuan-sdk/live-sdk.git | 05:32 |
| gnarface | there's also refracta tools, which are in the repo and you can use them to do something very similar | 05:32 |
| gnarface | (check out refractasnapshot and see if that does what you want) | 05:33 |
| ted-ious | gnarface: Thanks! | 05:41 |
| ted-ious | I'm getting the sdk repo while I learn about refracta tools. | 05:41 |
| DelTomix | ted-ious: for the installer-iso there is an update coming soon | 08:32 |
| ted-ious | DelTomix: Thanks for the update. | 08:49 |
| DelTomix | yvw :) | 08:57 |
| fsmithred_ | ted-ious, are you still here and awake? | 12:41 |
| fsmithred_ | The official devuan-live isos are made with live-sdk, but I think it's easier to use refractasnapshot. | 12:41 |
| fsmithred_ | Install the existing live into a virtual machine, update the virtual machine and configure it the way you want, then run refractasnapshot. | 12:42 |
| fsmithred_ | If you have any questions about it, ping me here, and I'll eventually answer. | 12:42 |
| ted-ious | Ok thanks! | 12:53 |
| u-amarsh04 | Love the text about package init-system-helpers "Maintainers of other init systems are welcome to include their helpers in this package, provided it doesn't try to take over the world". | 13:29 |
| u-amarsh04 | and then in a reference to exploring new worlds, Packages which depend on init-system-helpers (1701) | 13:30 |
| cousin_luigi | Asking out of desperation: anyone knowledgeable with siproxd or at least the SIP protocol? | 14:45 |
| grylli | i get 'Temporary failure resolving 'deb.devuan.org' when doing apt update, other websites and domains work ok; https://dpaste.com/HUZ793AUQ ; /etc/resolv.conf says 'nameserver 192.168.0.1'; I don't know whether it worked before, it is fresh install, just a few days old | 18:58 |
| DPA | grylli: "Connection to 192.168.0.1#53(192.168.0.1) ... failed" means your DNS server gave up and didn't accept a connection. If that's a router or something like that, maybe try restarting it. | 19:12 |
| grylli | DPA: thanks, i've put 8.8.8.8 as nameserver for now, i will reboot router later and let you know | 19:14 |
| grylli | interesting how it resolves e.g. web.libera.chat but it is just that one domain name that it doesn't | 19:14 |
| _ds_ | I note that it's returned 21 IPv4 addressed but didn't return any IPv6 addresses. Possibly the resolver fell over at that point? | 19:15 |
| DPA | That domain also has a ton of A records, maybe it just can't handle that many. | 19:15 |
| _ds_ | (Testing here, I see 21 IPv4 and 17 IPv6.) | 19:16 |
| _ds_ | grylli, does “host -t AAAA deb.devuan.org” work? | 19:19 |
| grylli | ;; Connection to 192.168.0.1#53(192.168.0.1) for deb.devuan.org failed: connection refused. deb.devuan.org is an alias for deb.rr.devuan.org. deb.rr.devuan.org has IPv6 address 2a02:2a38:1:400:2a42:2a42:2a42:2a42 [... a few more lines with other ipv6] | 19:20 |
| grylli | it works now that i have 8.8.8.8 added | 19:20 |
| _ds_ | grylli, I'm thinking that DPA's right and that you should report the problem in the appropriate place for that router. | 19:32 |
| grylli | it is my router, i'll investigate | 19:34 |
| grylli | thank you! | 19:35 |
| dynastar | I'm running daedalus and currently have kernel 6.1.0-15. When I'm trying to run an apt update, apt starts building modules for 6.1.0-18. I seem to be having difficulty when trying to build the nvidia kernel module. /var/lib/dkms/nvidia-current/525.147.05/build/make.log has practically no information on what's going on. | 19:44 |
| dynastar | Is there something common that might be causing nvidia module build issues? | 19:45 |
| gnarface | dynastar: yea, it's a known bug and i can't imagine they did it on accident. there's a bug report on debian's bug tracker about it, last i checked the only solution is to just install 6.1.0-17 instead | 19:49 |
| dynastar | gnarface, thanks. I guess I'll wait on updating the unit for a bit. | 19:54 |
| CEP-stafe | gnarface, Hello, did you read that I put in a message that I was able to solve the sound, in the lapton | 20:14 |
| gnarface | CEP-stafe: i must have missed it, what was the trick? | 20:16 |
| gnarface | CEP-stafe: how long ago wast his, i'm not sure i remember the incident at all actually | 20:17 |
| gnarface | ? | 20:17 |
| CEP-stafe | gnarface, I solved it by modifying or creating the file '/home/user/.xsessionrc'. running the services for pipewire, but adding delay time... | 20:31 |
| CEP-stafe | in lapton asus 555x | 20:32 |
| onefang | Just woke up. According to my emails, there did indeed appear to be some sort of glitch with the deb.devuan.org DNS resolving twice while I slept, and at around the time grylli mentioned it. | 21:05 |
| onefang | I wrote apt-panopticon to test the package mirrors, it sends me emails if there's problems. | 21:06 |
| onefang | Seems good now though. | 21:06 |
| gnarface | CEP-stafe: ah, yes i think i do remember seeing you mention that now. glad you got it working. any idea why it needs the delay? a driver problem or a pulseaudio problem? | 21:09 |
| CEP-stafe | gnarface, I think it was from pipewire with the driver, although the audio icon appeared in the system tray, when clicked, it appeared empty | 21:16 |
| onefang | gnarface: You help so many people here, it's no surprise you might forget one or two. Thanks for your help. | 21:21 |
| CEP-stafe | I have no drama with the sources.list links, but I had to uninstall discover, since nothing appeared, now I'm going to reinstall it from scratch/ It appeared as disconnected from the network, but only in discover | 21:23 |
| CEP-stafe | onefang, Sure, apart from this, this happened in December of the 23rd. | 21:25 |
| CEP-stafe | Maybe you remember, something else, if I tell you that I am Argentine and I use Google translation | 21:26 |
| CEP-stafe | i am , cep and cerapio | 21:27 |
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