| Arsen | lovely | 18:41 |
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| joerg | start of logging | 18:42 |
| jr11 | I established the forward #devuan-eudev->$here too, missing: merge logfiles of those two channels | 18:56 |
| joerg | this has to wait though | 18:58 |
| joerg | for now find the old logs on old URL | 18:58 |
| joerg | I.E. http://reisenweber.net/irclogs/freenode/_devuan-eudev/ | 18:58 |
| joerg | please holler if anything with forward and/or logging doesn't seem to work as expected | 19:00 |
| joerg | <joerg> list #devuan-eudev [Notice] -alis- #devuan-eudev 17 :NOTE: this channel migrated to #eudev and is obsolete! You should get auto-forwarded to #eudev unless your modes or already being there forbids | legacy chanlogs: http://reisenweber.net/irclogs/freenode/_devuan-eudev/ | 19:09 |
| Arsen | joerg: not sure how desireable merging the logs even is | 19:13 |
| Arsen | there isn't much of value to browse through back there | 19:13 |
| Arsen | well, nothing that won't be formalized elsewhere | 19:13 |
| Arsen | not to mention that cryptpad url being publically writable | 19:13 |
| UsL | what is the harm? Why not for just the perseverance of history? | 19:16 |
| joerg | bb|hcb instructed me to merge them, I'd rather not since that's a PITA | 19:17 |
| joerg | anyway see http://reisenweber.net/irclogs/freenode/_devuan-eudev/ | 19:18 |
| golinux | Can't this channel just be left as is here? | 19:18 |
| golinux | Oops meant to put that in #devuan-eudev. | 19:18 |
| joerg | the situation now is (hopefully) stable, I feel no irresistible urge to do any further changes | 19:19 |
| golinux | Thanks for your work, joerg | 19:19 |
| UsL | sounds good joerg. | 19:19 |
| joerg | yw, hope everything works as expected | 19:19 |
| golinux | Onward to the task at hand! | 19:20 |
| joerg | :-) | 19:20 |
| Arsen | UsL: no harm and no need (other than the cryptpad thing I mentioned) | 19:22 |
| Arsen | joerg: isn't it just cat a b > final | 19:22 |
| joerg | no, not _that_ simple since there are links in the HTML files and I need to copy and rename the genuine logfiles | 19:24 |
| joerg | anyway there's also http://reisenweber.net/irclogs/freenode/_eudev/_eudev.2021-09-15.log.html#t2021-09-15T19:09:59 | 19:24 |
| joerg | I prolly *could* hack this HTML so it has a "< Wednesday, 2021-09-15" link upper left just like e.g http://reisenweber.net/irclogs/freenode/_devuan-eudev/_devuan-eudev.2021-09-15.log.html does, just the former link pointing to the latter file. But... meh | 19:27 |
| joerg | sigh, I don't like the URLs, they are bloated | 19:28 |
| bb|hcb | Arsen: that is one mode of operation; sometimes it happens someone intentionally or not to screw it up, but there is history and I see no problem | 20:39 |
| bb|hcb | golinux: I have asked for the redirect; maybe it will be a good idea to do the same in #gentoo-udev | 20:39 |
| golinux | We should ask them to do it. | 20:40 |
| bb|hcb | Ariadne: about chan-op I'd prefer to keep +OV; if needed we can take care when needed | 20:46 |
| bb|hcb | I want to focus on the pad's content now | 20:47 |
| joerg | /msg chanserv op #eudev [user] | 20:56 |
| joerg | and | 20:58 |
| joerg | /msg chanserv deop #eudev [user] | 20:58 |
| joerg | there's also VOICE and DEVOICE, see (msg chanserv help | 20:59 |
| joerg | there's also VOICE and DEVOICE, see /msg chanserv help | 21:00 |
| zhadum | Evening people | 21:21 |
| bb|hcb | Welcome | 21:22 |
| zhadum | Will mostly be lurking here, but I have an interest in your project continuation, so kudos! | 21:23 |
| Xenguy | Same here | 21:24 |
| bb|hcb | Arsen, Ariadne please give feedback on the pad's content; if you do not like working with the pad, I can convert that to whatever else you propose... | 21:39 |
| Arsen | don't mind the format at all | 21:43 |
| bb|hcb | I prefer to focus on the contents discussion; somehow we made some organizational/administrative progress only, and me being primarily technical sees that as no progress ;) | 21:49 |
| skarnet | ^ to my technical eyes that's about 2 days of boilerplate | 21:50 |
| skarnet | this is not a value judgment btw, on the contrary, I know these things have to be done and I'm _very happy_ that other people are doing them. :) | 21:51 |
| bb|hcb | What do you think would be the best next steps? We may leave some of the things pending to be decided on for later and start doing something | 22:00 |
| bb|hcb | Since Arsen already have prepared some stuff, maybe it is not a bad idea to start with that (not sure if it is mergeable with this codebase); else if someone starts syncing changes from systemd that may repeat his work | 22:01 |
| Arsen | it's an entirely unrelated history, derived via different means | 22:02 |
| bb|hcb | IOW did we collect enough yak wool or nor? | 22:02 |
| bb|hcb | Arsen: do you think that is mergeable? both things come from the main udev repo | 22:05 |
| Arsen | bb|hcb: well git is flexible enough to allow you to merge anything anywhere, so why not | 22:13 |
| Arsen | hell, I merged systemd into an empty repo for that project | 22:13 |
| bb|hcb | I am thinking about how to check which udev commits are not merged; excluding the ones not touching udev/ may also not be a good idea - they may touch some utility function that got copied | 22:17 |
| bb|hcb | Also having a later commit that was merged does not say anyhing about the older ones which may or may not be merged; also there may be very valid reasons to skip an udev commit | 22:17 |
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