libera/#eudev/ Monday, 2021-12-20

minimeHi people, is there an ebuild available for Gentoo users. I would like to have that for my local repository.09:36
minimeI'm asking because I'm unsure what will happen once I update to hwdata instead of hwids. See: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=717216 especially comment 5!09:45
bb|hcbI can't help with that (I do not have any idea), maybe sam_ or blueness may sched some light?09:57
minimeI hope so too! Thank you for responding.09:58
Arsensched :P10:01
Arsenminime: I dropped those files, that dep in gentoo is to be removed10:01
ArsenI might've forgotten to note that on the bug10:01
Arsensam handled it10:01
Arsenthanks sam <310:01
minimeOkay, I drop hwids and update to hwdata?10:03
Arsenjust take the live eubild10:08
minimeAh okay thank you very much Arsen! I'll do that.10:09
semzspeaking of Gentoo, is eudev just going to stay in the repo or will users need an overlay?10:09
semzthere was talk about dropping it but now there's activity again so I'm a bit confused10:10
minimeI have copied it to my local overlay. It is masked in ::gentoo.10:10
minimeI have a very bad feeling about how Gentoo is handling this... I'm surprised Gentoo is working so hard to remove eudev noe that the development issue has been solved.10:13
minimeThank you for keeping this project alive!10:14
Arsenit's not unjustified10:29
Arsenthey're following plans they made when they stopped supporting it10:29
Arsenideally, I want to rebase on newer systemd-udevd early next year10:30
Arsensince it's a component that is mostly freestanding10:30
Arsens/supporting/developing/10:30
minimeI know, but I'm very disappointed about the fact that the freedom of choice is no longer a priority!10:32
minimeArsen: what does systemd-udevd mean for users that want a systemd free system?10:34
Arsenthe exact same thing eudev means10:35
Arsenabsolutely nothing10:35
Arseneudev is just a rebased systemd-udevd that works on musl out of the box10:35
minimeThat is great news!10:36
Arsen(systemd-udevd in gentoo works on musl too, btw))10:36
Arsengood news about udev is that it has to stay relatively runtime-independent of the rest of systemd10:37
Arsenit has essentially no runtime dependency on it, and doesn't force you to use any other systemd component10:38
minimeArsen: thanks for the tips it is much appreciated!10:38
minimeThanks for the earlier advise! I just installed the latest version of eudev on Gentoo and it is working fine.14:34
minimeI copied the ebuild for version 3.2.11 to my local overlay14:35
minimechanged ~amd64 to amd6414:36
minimeupdated @world14:36
minimenow hwids has been uninstalled and hwdata is installed and eudev updated14:37
bb|hcbGood news, thanks for the report! :)14:41

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