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| Jigsy | %cases UK | 00:31 |
| Brainstorm | Jigsy: In United Kingdom, there have been 286979 confirmed cases (0.4% of the population) and 44517 deaths (15.5% of cases) as of 7 hours ago. 11.0 million tests were performed (2.6% positive). See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=United%20Kingdom for time series data. | 00:31 |
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| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian: Australia news: Coronavirus Australia live update: 'extremely high' chance Victoria outbreak has spread to NSW as Melbourne enters lockdown → https://is.gd/O7Vv28 | 01:22 |
| pyna | oh no, the US might run out of tv soon | 01:24 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for World: +5037 cases (now 12.2 million), +121 deaths (now 551490) since 20 minutes ago — Brazil: +3036 cases (now 1.7 million), +91 deaths (now 68055) since 2 hours ago — Nebraska, US: +224 cases (now 20425) since 23 hours ago — US: +1953 cases (now 3.2 million), +30 deaths (now 134816) since 20 minutes ago | 01:24 |
| LjL | pyna, how so? | 01:25 |
| bin_bash | how does one "run out of tv" | 01:26 |
| pyna | it's already sparser than usual, but just as california was getting ready to start making more tv, it turns out that yep, pandemic | 01:26 |
| LjL | pyna, just air reruns, nobody will notice | 01:27 |
| pyna | https://www.theringer.com/tv/2020/7/7/21315197/pandemic-tv-coronavirus-effects-2020 terrifying future with not even a single new full house reboot to broadcast our culture to the hungry world | 01:27 |
| LjL | pyna, i suspect maybe the unrest is due to lacking our usual amount of "cops are good" propaganda shows | 01:29 |
| LjL | gotta churn those out on the regular | 01:30 |
| pyna | reruns don't contain enough essential nutrients to survive. it's like eating just rabbits, or getting scurvy :) | 01:30 |
| pyna | yeah, shit, i forgot, they actually canceled COPS | 01:30 |
| LjL | in our TV, reruns of non-fiction shows get a "This programme was recorded before the emergency laws" overlay | 01:31 |
| LjL | because they have to justify showing people unmasked, shaking hands, closer than 1m, etc | 01:31 |
| pyna | holy shit really?! that's amazing | 01:32 |
| LjL | yesh i mean, non-fiction as in quiz shows or talk shows or the like | 01:32 |
| LjL | "series" or similar don't have an overlay | 01:32 |
| pyna | ah, yeah - plausibly-misconstruable as live. that makes more sense, but is still just amazing to me. | 01:33 |
| LjL | live, or just recently recorded, as they used to be | 01:34 |
| pyna | i've fully given up on anything as innocent and practical as that in my shithole country :( | 01:34 |
| LjL | now instead they ran a lot of reruns of those | 01:34 |
| LjL | (eww) | 01:34 |
| LjL | pyna, my country is not particularly great if that helps | 01:35 |
| pyna | oh, sweden, huh. yeah :( | 01:36 |
| LjL | jag? nej, italien | 01:36 |
| livebrain | thats like saying "oh my bmw is a crappy car" lol | 01:36 |
| pyna | i guess im glad im not in brazil. and in a relatively sane city so far | 01:37 |
| LjL | i'm glad i'm not in lombardy, nevermind next to bergamo. oh wait | 01:37 |
| bin_bash | pyna: idk what youre talking about tv being "sparse" | 01:39 |
| bin_bash | there are thousands upon thousands of things to watch across a plethora of streaming services | 01:39 |
| pyna | from the article, there's like THREE examples | 01:39 |
| LjL | TV is the thing with an antenna to me | 01:40 |
| pyna | im not being serious, but it's not like i can be completely complacent about america not paying a price for less new tv | 01:41 |
| bin_bash | in the US tvs dont even have antennas anymore, just tuners where you can plug coax in | 01:41 |
| LjL | i mean, no, our TVs don't normally have built-in rabbit ears either, no | 01:42 |
| LjL | the coax goes to the roof and that's where the antenna is | 01:42 |
| LjL | don't take me too literally | 01:42 |
| bin_bash | the thing is that there are usually WAY too many crappy pilots that aire and then never have more than a few episodes | 01:42 |
| bin_bash | or good ones where they cancel it | 01:42 |
| bin_bash | so maybe not having an over-abundance of pilots will ultimately be a good thing | 01:42 |
| pyna | you still need an antenna if you're a caveman like me and try to get OTA tv signal | 01:42 |
| LjL | i just mean that streaming services may provide things that we also call "TV shows" but when i talk about "TV", in general, to me, that's about the programming on over-the-air TV, not streaming services | 01:42 |
| bin_bash | well, then I guess I don't watch TV at all | 01:43 |
| LjL | like many other people lately | 01:43 |
| livebrain | there are alot of shows still airing, some "morning shows" or "late shows" | 01:43 |
| bin_bash | I mean I watch it on my TV set, but I don't watch anything not via the internet. even when watching live sports, it's still via the internet | 01:43 |
| livebrain | i think the only ones that are going to be affected are tv series or movies | 01:43 |
| bin_bash | LjL: yeah | 01:43 |
| LjL | livebrain, in italy, talk shows like those you mention are definitely affected... not in the sense they *don't exist* anymore, but they have changed completely. all (except sometimes one or two) guests are over Skype or similar | 01:44 |
| LjL | not being able to understand what people say on TV because of bad connectivity has become a staple of italian TV now | 01:45 |
| LjL | especially under lockdown, when people just weren't allowed to go to Milan and Rome if invited at a TV show | 01:45 |
| pyna | i've been existentially sniped considering the true meaning of TV | 01:45 |
| LjL | but it's mostly stayed that way | 01:45 |
| bin_bash | pyna: what do you mean by that | 01:45 |
| livebrain | pyna: cheap entertainment | 01:46 |
| pyna | i want TV to mean the physical device, but can't argue it is | 01:46 |
| pyna | like i want phones to not be called phones anymore | 01:46 |
| pyna | cause it's like calling a house a refrigerator | 01:47 |
| livebrain | what would you call a phone ? | 01:47 |
| bin_bash | oh well when i say TV i mean the physical device | 01:47 |
| bin_bash | otherwise i'd say broadcast tv or something | 01:47 |
| pyna | i dunno, i imagine there'd be a committee or something | 01:47 |
| pyna | language police | 01:47 |
| bin_bash | what do you want phones to be called tho | 01:48 |
| LjL | when i mean the physical device i typically say "a TV", "the TV" [set], "TVs" | 01:48 |
| pyna | if i was asked to make a suggestion i would nominate 'navi', from that anime Lain. i always liked that | 01:48 |
| LjL | usually just "TV" cannot mean the device as it's uncountable | 01:48 |
| livebrain | navi for phone ? | 01:48 |
| pyna | but idk, pick some word from a wm gibson novel and im good | 01:48 |
| bin_bash | LjL: i don't think it's uncountable | 01:48 |
| pyna | for the computer in your pocket that has an app that can make phone calls, yes | 01:49 |
| bin_bash | not sure what you mean by that... "there are 4 televisions" | 01:49 |
| bin_bash | pyna: ah but you're not given full access to it like a computer | 01:49 |
| LjL | %w television | 01:49 |
| Brainstorm | LjL, television — noun: 1. (uncountable) An electronic communication medium that allows the transmission of real-time visual images, and often sound, 2. (countable) A device for receiving television signals and displaying them in visual form, 3. (uncountable) Collectively, the programs broadcast via the medium of television, [... want %more?] → https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/television | 01:49 |
| LjL | #1 is uncountable, and is what i mean by "TV" | 01:49 |
| pyna | im not making a real argument - well aware its a losing position, like defining television the way i wish i could | 01:49 |
| LjL | as opposed to "a TV" or "the TV" or "TVs" which are countable, but mean something else | 01:50 |
| bin_bash | https://www.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/us/definition/american_english/television | 01:50 |
| livebrain | the main goal of a phone is communication | 01:50 |
| livebrain | not to type word or excel spreadsheets | 01:50 |
| pyna | bin_bash: that's the rub, as long as they can trick you into thinking its not a computer, people wont expect it to work like one | 01:50 |
| bin_bash | i guess where i live it's not used in that way anymore really without a modifier. like "i'm going to watch a television show" -- some elderly person,probably | 01:51 |
| livebrain | you call it by the "main" purpose of it | 01:51 |
| LjL | bin_bash, what is your point? meanings #2 and #3 on your links, which correspond to meanings #1 and #3 on Wiktionary, are stated to be uncountable | 01:51 |
| LjL | of course, if you put an article before it, you are using the countable meaning | 01:51 |
| LjL | not those meanings | 01:51 |
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| pyna | i'd kill for my "phone" to have a filesystem and easy keyboard/monitor hookup, instead of a "laptop" or a "tablet". | 01:51 |
| bin_bash | i just wanted to share a not-wiktionary source | 01:51 |
| pyna | it'll eventually happen, but slowly | 01:52 |
| LjL | well i'm glad a rather subpar learner's dictionary agrees with Wiktionary which i definitely trust more then12 | 01:52 |
| bin_bash | even if you don't put an article in my dialect it's still countable, because the uncountable one is only used with modifiers | 01:52 |
| bin_bash | umm it's oxford | 01:52 |
| LjL | "Oxford" | 01:52 |
| bin_bash | oxford is not subpar... | 01:52 |
| LjL | OED is one thing, ODE definitely another, and the Learner's Dictionary DEFINITELY another yet | 01:52 |
| pyna | before iphone, the carriers had a waaaay longer timetable before your average consumer was gonna catch on that it was a computer | 01:52 |
| bin_bash | it's the free version of the OED meant for people learning english | 01:52 |
| livebrain | pyna: by that argument a car is no longer a car | 01:53 |
| livebrain | its a computer also | 01:53 |
| livebrain | so everything that is able to calculate is a computer | 01:53 |
| bin_bash | anyway, i was just saying that in my dialect the uncountable way is only used wiht a modifier, so thats why i was confused | 01:53 |
| bin_bash | not a big deal | 01:53 |
| pyna | well, i'd hear out an argument. it's still an "auto-mobile" at least | 01:53 |
| livebrain | even a Tv remote | 01:54 |
| livebrain | would be called a computer | 01:54 |
| livebrain | everything would be called a computer | 01:54 |
| livebrain | i think we call things by the main purpose of them | 01:54 |
| pyna | people used to be computers! | 01:54 |
| livebrain | ence a car is always a car even though you can play mario kart on a car "computer" | 01:55 |
| LjL | well is it true that the main purpose of (mobile, obviously) phones today is to make telephone calls? | 01:55 |
| LjL | but anyway i think we call things by what language history brought us to call them | 01:55 |
| livebrain | LjL: communication | 01:55 |
| LjL | it is sometimes their main purpose, sometimes not | 01:55 |
| pyna | i like your argument livebrain. it also supports that we need to rename "phones" | 01:55 |
| LjL | livebrain, sorry, but "telephone" and "communication" aren't synonyms. tele*phone* is specifically about remote *sound* | 01:55 |
| livebrain | im not that good with language | 01:56 |
| livebrain | but isnt that a form of communication ? | 01:56 |
| pyna | if i had a twitter i'd ask wired magazine to take a survey of SF authors about what to call pocketcomputers | 01:56 |
| LjL | i mean, normally i'd say "who cares, it's its accepted meaning, etymology fallacy doesn't count", but right now i believe we're arguing things should be called according to what the words "mean" i.e. etymologies | 01:56 |
| LjL | livebrain, yes, a form of communication. a subset of it. not a superset. | 01:57 |
| pyna | what's german for pocketcomputer | 01:57 |
| LjL | pyna, you realize English has had the terms PDA and handheld computer for a while right | 01:57 |
| livebrain | pyna: in my language you call a phone "telefone" a pocket computer "computador de bolso" | 01:57 |
| livebrain | way longer | 01:57 |
| bin_bash | pdas are different though, they don't make phone alls | 01:57 |
| livebrain | wouldnt work ;P | 01:57 |
| bin_bash | calls* | 01:57 |
| pyna | yeah, it's a shame PDA is used up | 01:57 |
| LjL | and as a matter of fact early smartphones were either dumbphone-looking Symbians, or PocketPC devices with a phone | 01:58 |
| pyna | like "modern" | 01:58 |
| LjL | bin_bash, well, before the iPhone era, there were certainly a lot of people using devices with the exact same OS as PDAs to make phone calls. they were pretty much the same, plus a GSM module. | 01:58 |
| bin_bash | also pda is more syllables to say than phone is | 01:58 |
| LjL | i'm just saying | 01:59 |
| bin_bash | LjL: yeah and they were called cell phones | 01:59 |
| LjL | there are words for "pocket computer" in english | 01:59 |
| LjL | (including "pocket computer") | 01:59 |
| bin_bash | i had a few different ones | 01:59 |
| pyna | www all over again noooo | 01:59 |
| bin_bash | the blackberries | 01:59 |
| LjL | bin_bash, i think we're getting a bit distracted. pyna said <29pyna18> if i had a twitter i'd ask wired magazine to take a survey of SF authors about what to call pocketcomputers <pyna> what's german for pocketcomputer | 01:59 |
| bin_bash | also had palm pilots | 01:59 |
| LjL | so i pointed out that there are perfectly good english terms for "pocket computer" | 01:59 |
| bin_bash | yeah | 01:59 |
| LjL | whether they are also good for "phone" was not really something i was arguing | 02:00 |
| LjL | but i also guess pyna's main argument is that current phones are mainly pocket computers, which among many other things, also do phone calls. which i find it hard to disagree with, but i also recognize that words are what history makes them | 02:00 |
| pyna | i just admire that german has long descriptive words | 02:01 |
| bin_bash | i know, im agreeing with you... my point was to pyna that phone is still the path of least resistant | 02:01 |
| livebrain | and whats wrong with "smartphones" for pocket computers ? | 02:01 |
| bin_bash | pyna: it's funny because cell phones are called "handy: | 02:01 |
| bin_bash | "* | 02:01 |
| bin_bash | in german | 02:01 |
| LjL | livebrain, they may not contain a phone :) | 02:01 |
| pyna | like immersion blenders are "stabmixer" is so funny to me | 02:01 |
| LjL | bin_bash, what's even funnier is that many germans assume that's the english word for it, and will happily start talking about their "handy" in english | 02:02 |
| pyna | hmm "handy" | 02:02 |
| LjL | but what's funniest of all | 02:02 |
| LjL | is not telling them | 02:02 |
| bin_bash | LjL: i know!! | 02:02 |
| bin_bash | lololol | 02:02 |
| pyna | omg lolin about this a lot | 02:02 |
| bin_bash | "your... what now??" | 02:02 |
| nixonix | im guessing i know how germans got that handy term for mobile phones | 02:03 |
| nixonix | there used to be similar term in finnish, and i think nokia tried to register it as a trademark. may well be that nokia launched handy for germans | 02:03 |
| pyna | i think its a great word for 'em, im in | 02:03 |
| pyna | it captures an essential part of their charm and grossness | 02:04 |
| nixonix | so i invent and launch a term for english speakers: palmie! | 02:04 |
| LjL | that sounds like a more specific form of handy | 02:05 |
| pyna | i wonder what connotation it has in german, assuming its different than the USian one | 02:05 |
| nixonix | sounds a bit ozzie-like, doesnt it mates? absolutely bloody ripper! | 02:05 |
| LjL | pyna, it just means cellphone in anything but a rather formal setting :P | 02:05 |
| LjL | presumably from handheld [terminal] | 02:05 |
| LjL | %w telefonino | 02:06 |
| Brainstorm | LjL, telefonino — noun: 1. Diminutive of telefono (“small telephone”), 2. mobile phone, mobile, cellphone, cellular — verb: 1. inflection of telefonare:, 2. third-person plural present subjunctive, 3. third-person plural imperative → https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/telefonino | 02:06 |
| LjL | that's what we called (and sometimes still do, but sounds a bit aged) them in italian | 02:06 |
| LjL | i believe it was a SIP / Telecom Italia trademark | 02:06 |
| bin_bash | did you ever call them "foni" for short | 02:07 |
| bin_bash | because that would be awesome | 02:07 |
| LjL | afraid not | 02:07 |
| bin_bash | aw | 02:08 |
| LjL | we sometimes say "tel", well i don't, but some do | 02:08 |
| bin_bash | i don't know why in my head it did a combo of australian and italian | 02:08 |
| LjL | and if you're in some circles that i disdain, you can say "cellu" | 02:08 |
| bin_bash | "oi foni" | 02:08 |
| bin_bash | lol | 02:08 |
| LjL | pronounced "chelloo" | 02:08 |
| bin_bash | what do you hate about it | 02:08 |
| bin_bash | from my american perspective it seems a little silly but not bad sounding | 02:09 |
| LjL | the people who use it | 02:09 |
| bin_bash | ahh | 02:09 |
| bin_bash | fair | 02:09 |
| LjL | it's like... well i have no idea how to compare subcultures | 02:09 |
| LjL | but rather ignorant loud people who may or may not mug you and take your "cellu" | 02:09 |
| bin_bash | yeah it's hard, i know what you mean | 02:09 |
| bin_bash | ahh | 02:09 |
| bin_bash | i'll make a note so when i'm in italy after things have gone back to normal-ish i stay away from people who say that lol | 02:10 |
| bin_bash | :( | 02:11 |
| bin_bash | that is a very reasonable thing to be mad about | 02:11 |
| bin_bash | i would be too | 02:11 |
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| LjL | bin_bash, well it happened like 20 years ago though | 02:11 |
| LjL | i'm also still mad i didn't have the guts to ask him to let me keep the SIM card | 02:12 |
| LjL | so i had to change my number | 02:12 |
| ubLIX[m] | hahaha that would have been some Flight of the Conchords level plot twist | 02:13 |
| bin_bash | LjL: yeah but still, it's understandable. i'm still mad about petty shit from 20 years ago, getting yout phone & sim stolen is totally reasonable. a pox on his house! | 02:14 |
| LjL | ubLIX[m], my friend's girlfriend was robbed in Portugal and kinda chatted up the fellow, surely i could have tried it with some 16 year old moron | 02:14 |
| LjL | bin_bash, well, it took a while to happen, and had the side effect of also reaching my house, but... fair | 02:15 |
| LjL | just don't touch elbows | 02:16 |
| LjL | because that's supremely silly | 02:16 |
| bin_bash | hah | 02:17 |
| LjL | https://xkcd.com/2330/ | 02:18 |
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| LjL | it seems to be just short of 10k new cases an hour globally | 02:25 |
| LjL | based on my eyeballing of Brainstorm's messages | 02:25 |
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| ap4lmtree | it looks like "KN95" masks the chinese version of n95 mask are at good prices on ebay | 02:42 |
| LjL | ap4lmtree, i have some, they smell | 02:43 |
| LjL | i'm not sure i could positively say they are equivalent to actual N95 | 02:43 |
| ap4lmtree | what character is that to the left of you j? | 02:44 |
| ap4lmtree | LjL, oh it is an L | 02:44 |
| LjL | it sure is | 02:44 |
| ap4lmtree | my regular n95 mask smelsl a little | 02:45 |
| ap4lmtree | kind of like cat or something | 02:45 |
| LjL | ew. | 02:45 |
| ap4lmtree | or something | 02:45 |
| ap4lmtree | what does your smell like | 02:45 |
| LjL | maybe something like you said, actually | 02:46 |
| LjL | i had an FPP3 before, literally just one, with a valve (evil!), that one smelled neutral | 02:46 |
| bin_bash | im not sure what kn95 really is or if i trust it | 02:47 |
| bin_bash | but i have just 1 n95 and the moist heat method is perfect for decontamination | 02:47 |
| bin_bash | I also have half-face respirator wiht p100 masks, but not fun to wear | 02:48 |
| bin_bash | also has a vent so id have to cover it | 02:48 |
| ap4lmtree | kn95 is the chiense cerification | 02:48 |
| bin_bash | i know, i just dont trust chinesium | 02:48 |
| bin_bash | or if it's really the same | 02:48 |
| bin_bash | fry's has them | 02:48 |
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| ecks | hmm maybe i should get some ffp2 masks | 03:12 |
| ecks | ffp3 still seems to be out of stock everywhere | 03:12 |
| pyna | i am reading an italian novel. im english of course cause i suck at other human languages | 03:17 |
| pyna | inspector montalbano | 03:18 |
| yuriwho | No one expects the Italian Inquisition | 03:20 |
| pyna | im really enjoying it. like the 20+th in a whole series i guess, but my first one. he solves some mystery, stops to have good meals, bickers amiably with his girlfriend, solves a bit more mystery. its nice | 03:22 |
| CoronaBot_ | 04/r/covid19: Pre-existing immunity to SARS-CoV-2: the knowns and unknowns (80 votes) | https://www.nature.com/articles/s41577-020-0389-z | https://redd.it/hnp5ib | 03:24 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian: Australia news: Coronavirus Australia live update: Queensland to turn anyone from Victoria away at border as Melbourne enters lockdown → https://is.gd/O7Vv28 | 03:28 |
| pyna | and im having fun googling the meals | 03:32 |
| pyna | bottarga, timballo di riso, sfinchione | 03:35 |
| LjL | pyna, Montalbano is also enjoyed here as a rather popular TV series. but half of it is hearing the accents, so not as if you don't speak italian | 03:36 |
| pyna | huh | 03:36 |
| LjL | but it's also definitely about the food | 03:36 |
| LjL | as not as fun* if | 03:37 |
| LjL | ugh | 03:37 |
| LjL | so* not as fun* if | 03:37 |
| pyna | there's a character in this written in some sort of very thick dialect | 03:37 |
| LjL | the books themselves are written in a "light" sicilian dialect (basically whatever a non-sicilian italian will probably understand, but no more) | 03:37 |
| LjL | then some characters are hardcore sicilian | 03:37 |
| pyna | and ive been wondering whats going on there. in eglish they have it kinda like the truck driver in futurama | 03:38 |
| pyna | ah, so its hardcore sicilian. lol | 03:38 |
| LjL | i don't think it's easy to convey in translation | 03:38 |
| LjL | yes well usually they're all various degrees of sicilian | 03:38 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian: Jetstar CEO blames NSW Health for failing to screen passengers arriving from Melbourne: Different rules in different states could cause confusion, Gareth Evans says after traveller who flew into Sydney refuses Covid-19 check → https://is.gd/aOwu4o | 03:38 |
| pyna | yeah it's lol and clearly not even close to a 1:1 | 03:38 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for World: +60 cases (now 12.2 million), +2 deaths (now 552397) since 36 minutes ago — Bahamas: +2 cases (now 106) since 6 days ago — Jamaica: +6 cases (now 751) since 21 hours ago — New Zealand: +3 cases (now 1540) since 21 hours ago | 03:38 |
| pyna | “Nah, nah, Chief, f’hivven’s sake, don’ talk to me! I did a wicket ting! I let Rinaldi get aways an’ now I don’ know where to find ’im. An’ until I get ’at cat an’ my honor back, I’m too disgraced to set foot inna p’leece station!” | 03:38 |
| LjL | lol | 03:39 |
| LjL | what is even "i get 'at cat" | 03:39 |
| pyna | "that cat" it's a literal lost cat he's talking about | 03:40 |
| LjL | oh | 03:40 |
| pyna | i picked this up cause its on a best books list, i read he dictated it at 93 years old, and i figure a 93 year old mystery writer probably has some worthwhile things to say | 03:41 |
| LjL | italian dub of Simpsons has a few characters speak various Italian dialects | 03:41 |
| pyna | hahah | 03:41 |
| pyna | i hope lenny and carl have funny complimentary accents | 03:42 |
| LjL | the police chief is neapolitan, the mafia boss is obviously sicilian, and what's their names the two friends are venetian | 03:42 |
| LjL | right those | 03:42 |
| LjL | venetian | 03:42 |
| LjL | they're funny | 03:42 |
| pyna | if the rest of this guys books are pretty good im in, and if the tv show is decent, that's nice too | 03:42 |
| LjL | it's decent | 03:43 |
| pyna | also i want some timballo | 03:44 |
| LjL | there's also a spinoff "The Young Montalbano" when he was... well, younger | 03:44 |
| pyna | yeah there's so many books. this is a guy in his 90s writting abotu a guy in his 60s, and i imagine they were both pretty different in their feckless youth | 03:44 |
| pyna | im drinking a 'rosé cider' in true tasteless american style | 03:46 |
| LjL | pyna, he died recently, in italy the Montalbano episodes are usually preceded by a snippet of him talking about the episode | 03:46 |
| LjL | usually kinda spoilering it | 03:46 |
| LjL | during the last years of his life he had become almost completely blind | 03:47 |
| LjL | so partly inspired from that he made a theater appearance in a piece called https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conversazione_su_Tiresia | 03:48 |
| LjL | Tiresias being a blind prophet in ancient greece | 03:48 |
| CoronaBot_ | 04/r/covid19: Effectiveness of Ivermectin as add-on Therapy in COVID-19 Management (Pilot Trial) (81 votes) | https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.07.07.20145979v1 | https://redd.it/hnk5hw | 03:48 |
| pyna | lol spoilers | 03:49 |
| LjL | pyna, but can you hate spoilers if they come from the author of the very thing? | 03:50 |
| LjL | i bet he had fun having us mull that very question | 03:51 |
| pyna | in modern publishing, it's a signifier that you are about to read Important Book, too | 03:52 |
| pyna | having someone tell you the ending in their little scholarly introduction | 03:52 |
| pyna | also good books cannot be spoiled | 03:55 |
| LjL | well that's probably his point, the turns of events are mainly a net to tie emotions, foods, language, and other things to. not so important "whodunit" | 03:56 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian: Australia news: Coronavirus Australia live update: Queensland to turn anyone from Victoria away at border as Melbourne enters lockdown → https://is.gd/O7Vv28 | 03:57 |
| pyna | the last real good "mystery" i read, the killer was super obvious but the point was really to talk about animal rights, astrology, and william blake. it was so good, and i was happy she won the nobel prize for literature a couple months later (for a more Important Book of course) | 03:59 |
| pyna | also one of the best book titles of all time, imo, lifted wholesale from william blake: "Drive your plow over the bones of the dead" | 04:00 |
| pyna | sorry for digression but i had to mention that | 04:01 |
| pyna | hmm is there any italo calvino movies or tv. that would be the best | 04:03 |
| LjL | not aware of any, but i'm not aware of many things | 04:09 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Bolivia: +1439 cases (now 42984), +47 deaths (now 1577) since 22 hours ago — World: +1439 cases (now 12.2 million), +47 deaths (now 552444) since 52 minutes ago — South Korea: +49 cases (now 13293), +2 deaths (now 287) since 22 hours ago | 04:24 |
| pyna | im wondering if you get a "handy call" hehehe | 04:29 |
| LjL | pyna, sadly i'm not german | 04:41 |
| pyna | quite. i'll try not to mistake you for a swede again either! | 04:43 |
| LjL | well, i'm a lombard, technically lombards came from sweden | 04:44 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Hindu: Andhra Pradesh: Lockdown blues still haunt construction workers → https://is.gd/i0Rd68 | 04:46 |
| pyna | !! | 04:47 |
| pyna | the normans! | 04:48 |
| LjL | no those were... other scandinavians | 04:53 |
| Jigsy | %cases UK | 04:55 |
| Brainstorm | Jigsy: In United Kingdom, there have been 286979 confirmed cases (0.4% of the population) and 44517 deaths (15.5% of cases) as of 12 hours ago. 11.0 million tests were performed (2.6% positive). See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=United%20Kingdom for time series data. | 04:55 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian: Australia news: Coronavirus Australia live update: SA makes face masks mandatory for arrivals amid Victoria Covid-19 lockdown → https://is.gd/O7Vv28 | 04:56 |
| CoronaBot_ | 04/r/coronavirus: With No End in Sight to the Coronavirus, Some Teachers Are Retiring Rather Than Go Back to School (10083 votes) | https://time.com/5864158/coronavirus-teachers-school/ | https://redd.it/hnlp9o | 04:59 |
| ap4lmtree | i have been putting my two n95 mask on my car dashboard. and dont use it more than every three or so days | 05:03 |
| ap4lmtree | is it okay that they be put in sunlight? | 05:03 |
| ap4lmtree | i reuse them becasue they dry out and the sunlight helps sterlize them, but i am not sure if sunlight degrades the masks material | 05:03 |
| the-wes | yes, it's fine. it will take months of direct sunlight to degrade mask material to any measurable degree | 05:05 |
| the-wes | you would get a lot more destruction from any other cleaning method | 05:05 |
| LjL | i second that. anything degrades the material to some extent, including sunlight, but that seems like a pretty harmless method compared to others | 05:06 |
| LjL | however it was found by some preliminary studies that sunlight may not kill all the virus in an N95 type mask because the virus can be "hiding" in the rather complex layers of fiber | 05:06 |
| LjL | but if you wait several days... i think that's a reasonable way to use them when there's a shortage | 05:07 |
| tinwhiskers | Glass blocks nearly all UV-B in case that matters | 05:07 |
| LjL | right, there's that | 05:07 |
| tinwhiskers | but the drying alone will probably do the trick and if you're only using it every 3 days you should be fine | 05:07 |
| tinwhiskers | or as the WHO would say, "There's no evidence that leaving your N95 mask on your car dashboard for 3 days will destroy all SARS-Cov-2 virions". | 05:09 |
| ap4lmtree | "KN95" masks are readily available on ebay for 24 dollars for 30 or 40 dollars for 50 | 05:09 |
| ap4lmtree | when did they become readily available at those prices? | 05:10 |
| tinwhiskers | no, wait,... "insufficient evidence" | 05:10 |
| LjL | tinwhiskers, which means that you should just discard your mask and get a new one each day instead. except you shouldn't do that because medical workers need them. so you shouldn't wear a mask at all. | 05:11 |
| tinwhiskers | heh. right | 05:11 |
| ap4lmtree | LjL, when did you buy your kn95 masks? | 05:23 |
| ap4lmtree | i would like to know when they became available more | 05:23 |
| CoronaBot_ | 04/r/coronavirus: California governor says schools will reopen when the data shows it is safe to do so (10317 votes) | https://abc30.com/california-stay-at-home-update-ca-order-new-newsom-speech-today/6306712/ | https://redd.it/hnp5lp | 05:35 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Kazakhstan: +1962 cases (now 53021) since 23 hours ago — World: +2569 cases (now 12.2 million), +23 deaths (now 552467) since an hour ago — Honduras: +550 cases (now 25978), +17 deaths (now 694) since 23 hours ago — Haiti: +54 cases (now 6486), +6 deaths (now 123) since 23 hours ago | 05:39 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Hindu: Coronavirus India lockdown Day 107 live updates | Single source infects 95 in Odisha’s Rourkela: As the number of coronavirus cases in the country continue to climb, the Union Health Ministry has asked all the States and Union Territories to ensur → https://is.gd/l38qTw | 06:03 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian: Australia news: Coronavirus Australia live update: prime minister Scott Morrison holds Hong Kong press conference amid Victoria Covid-19 lockdown → https://is.gd/O7Vv28 | 06:13 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Hindu: National: Coronavirus India lockdown Day 107 live updates | Single source infects 95 in Odisha’s Rourkela → https://is.gd/l38qTw | 06:23 |
| CoronaBot_ | 04/r/covid19: 96% of Covid-19 patients recover in Beacon pharma’s Favipira trial (84 votes) | https://tbsnews.net/coronavirus-chronicle/covid-19-bangladesh/96-covid-19-patients-recover-beacon-pharmas-favipira-trial | https://redd.it/hnvkuj | 06:31 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian: Australia news: Coronavirus Australia live update: prime minister Scott Morrison holds Hong Kong press conference amid Victoria Covid-19 lockdown → https://is.gd/O7Vv28 | 06:32 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for World: +5689 cases (now 12.2 million), +169 deaths (now 552636) since an hour ago — Pakistan: +3359 cases (now 240848), +61 deaths (now 4983) since a day ago — Ukraine: +835 cases (now 51457), +17 deaths (now 1323) since 22 hours ago — Kyrgyzstan: +361 cases (now 8847), +4 deaths (now 116) since 22 hours ago | 07:09 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Ceara, Brazil: +3519 cases (now 128471), +109 deaths (now 6665) since 23 hours ago — Minas Gerais, Brazil: +3138 cases (now 64035), +73 deaths (now 1355) since 23 hours ago — Para, Brazil: +2592 cases (now 118744), +41 deaths (now 5169) since 23 hours ago — Rio Grande do Norte, Brazil: +2448 cases (now 72068), +69 deaths (now 2151) since 23 hours ago | 07:24 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian: Coronavirus live news: Melbourne locks down as global cases pass 12m: Trump’s Tulsa rally ‘likely contributed’ to city’s surge in cases ; infections worldwide pass 12m ; nearly 3,000 miners infected in Chile . Follow the latest updates → https://is.gd/ykqcgC | 07:30 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian: Australia news: Coronavirus Australia live update: Victoria records 165 new Covid-19 cases as Melbourne enters lockdown → https://is.gd/O7Vv28 | 07:50 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian: Coronavirus live news: Melbourne locks down as global cases pass 12m: Trump’s Tulsa rally ‘likely contributed’ to city’s surge in cases ; infections worldwide pass 12m ; nearly 3,000 miners infected in Chile . Follow the latest updates → https://is.gd/ykqcgC | 07:59 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian: Australia news: Coronavirus Australia live update: Victoria premier Dan Andrews to hold press conference on cases and Melbourne lockdown → https://is.gd/O7Vv28 | 08:18 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Hindu: Karnataka: Safari at Kabini backwaters suspended due to surge in COVID-19 cases → https://is.gd/XZdgXh | 08:38 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian: Coronavirus outbreak: UK coronavirus live: Rishi Sunak's summer statement to come under scrutiny → https://is.gd/E8HjCE | 08:47 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Indian Express (Health): Destination of the week: People in Taiwan ride the fantasy flight to nowhere amid pandemic restrictions → https://is.gd/LGHfX2 | 09:07 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian: Australia news: Coronavirus Australia live update: Victoria premier Dan Andrews holds press conference on cases and Melbourne lockdown → https://is.gd/O7Vv28 | 09:16 |
| CoronaBot_ | 04/r/coronavirus: Your Mask Cuts Own Risk by 65 Percent (10213 votes) | https://www.ucdavis.edu/coronavirus/news/your-mask-cuts-own-risk-65-percent/ | https://redd.it/hnt6d3 | 09:18 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for World: +1917 cases (now 12.2 million), +54 deaths (now 552690) since 2 hours ago — Armenia: +526 cases (now 30346), +14 deaths (now 535) since 23 hours ago — Slovakia: +53 cases (now 1851) since 23 hours ago — US: +458 cases (now 3.2 million), +5 deaths (now 134867) since 6 hours ago | 09:35 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian: NSW-Victoria border control to be in place for at least six weeks as Queensland and SA clamp down: Victorians to be turned back from Queensland and those entering South Australia will be need to self-isolate, take coronavirus tests and wear a mask → https://is.gd/4dv1vi | 09:45 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian: Coronavirus live news: Melbourne locks down as global cases pass 12m: Trump’s Tulsa rally ‘likely contributed’ to city’s surge in cases ; infections worldwide pass 12m ; nearly 3,000 miners infected in Chile . Follow the latest updates → https://is.gd/ykqcgC | 10:05 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Hindu: Uninformed commentary on exclusion of topics from CBSE syllabus: HRD minister: Opposition alleged that chapters on India’s democracy and plurality are being “dropped” to propagate a particular ideology. → https://is.gd/9QShRC | 10:15 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for World: +7271 cases (now 12.2 million), +199 deaths (now 552889) since 47 minutes ago — Russia: +6509 cases (now 707301), +176 deaths (now 10843) since a day ago — Israel: +390 cases (now 33947), +2 deaths (now 346) since 12 hours ago — Afghanistan: +314 cases (now 33908), +21 deaths (now 957) since a day ago | 10:20 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian: Coronavirus outbreak: UK coronavirus live: Rishi Sunak warns 'there are difficult times ahead' → https://is.gd/E8HjCE | 10:24 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian: Business: German exports rise as Covid-19 recovery begins - business live → https://is.gd/cUBbAk | 10:53 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Indian Express: World: Clinical trials for Ayurvedic formulations against COVID-19 to be initiated in India, US → https://is.gd/esfEF4 | 11:12 |
| CoronaBot_ | 04/r/covid19: Vitamin D and Endothelial Function (80 votes) | https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7071424/ | https://redd.it/hnrqgx | 11:13 |
| Brainstorm | New from Reddit (test): Thanks, Trump.: submitted by /u/OliverMarkusMalloy to r/CoronaVirus_2019_nCoV → https://is.gd/aA0fEB | 11:22 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health: Here's what visiting a theme park is like in the age of coronavirus: Six Flags Great Adventure & Safari is one of 11 theme parks the entertainment giant has opened at limited capacities across the U.S. CNBC spent the day there on July 3. Here's what it's like to visit an amusement park amid anti-coronavirus health and safety protocols. → https://is.gd/CWINm1 | 11:32 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Indonesia: +2657 cases (now 70736), +58 deaths (now 3417) since a day ago — World: +9626 cases (now 12.3 million), +120 deaths (now 553009) since an hour ago — Bangladesh: +3360 cases (now 175494), +41 deaths (now 2238) since a day ago — Oman: +1518 cases (now 51725), +3 deaths (now 236) since a day ago | 11:35 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Indian Express: World: Bali island begins to reopen after 3-month virus lockdown → https://is.gd/n5gBsr | 11:42 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian: Coronavirus outbreak: UK coronavirus live: repaying crisis debt will take 'decades' and higher taxes likely, says IFS → https://is.gd/E8HjCE | 11:51 |
| Brainstorm | New from BMJ: David Oliver: Covid-19 should increase our commitment to publicly funded and provided healthcare: The BBC reports that the UK has been hit hardest by covid-19 among the G7 nations.1 Over the 11 peak pandemic weeks it had the highest increases in deaths, deaths per 100 000 population, and excess... → https://is.gd/9MDhb7 | 12:01 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Romania: +614 cases (now 30789), +17 deaths (now 1834) since 23 hours ago — World: +2565 cases (now 12.3 million), +32 deaths (now 553041) since 43 minutes ago — India: +1555 cases (now 771129), +13 deaths (now 21174) since 43 minutes ago — Uganda: +23 cases (now 1000) since a day ago | 12:06 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian: John Lewis to shut eight stores, putting 1,300 jobs at risk - business live: Rolling coverage of the latest economic and financial news, as John Lewis Partnership takes ‘sad but necessary’ decision not to reopen eight stores → https://is.gd/cUBbAk | 12:11 |
| vanzog | Feds Charge 4 in Florida With Selling Bleachlike Chemical Mixture as Coronavirus Cure https://is.gd/BDkn5K | 12:16 |
| Brainstorm | New from BBC Health: Coronavirus: Planned ops in May fell by 80% in England: NHS England figures reveal how the pandemic has changed planned surgery, tests and A&E. → https://is.gd/YZvAj3 | 12:20 |
| CoronaBot_ | 04/r/covid19: Moderna Completes Enrollment of Phase 2 Study of its mRNA Vaccine Against COVID-19 (mRNA-1273) (81 votes) | https://investors.modernatx.com/news-releases/news-release-details/moderna-completes-enrollment-phase-2-study-its-mrna-vaccine | https://redd.it/hntq14 | 12:27 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Indian Express: World: Brazil press group to sue Prez Bolsonaro for removing mask while announcing he is Covid-19 positive → https://is.gd/TE4l5O | 12:30 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for World: +3123 cases (now 12.3 million), +223 deaths (now 553264) since 34 minutes ago — Iran: +2079 cases (now 250458), +221 deaths (now 12305) since a day ago — India: +704 cases (now 771833) since 34 minutes ago — Hong Kong: +42 cases (now 1366) since a day ago | 12:36 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian: Coronavirus outbreak: Coronavirus live news: global infections pass 12m as outbreaks worsen in US and Australia → https://is.gd/ykqcgC | 12:40 |
| Brainstorm | New from BMJ: Covid-19: England must aim for “zero tolerance” to avoid 27 000 predicted deaths, experts say: The UK government should take a “zero tolerance” approach to covid-19 to prevent thousands more deaths, a group of experts from across England, Scotland, Wales and Ireland have warned.1The panel,... → https://is.gd/rsFHk4 | 12:50 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian: John Lewis to shut eight stores, putting 1,300 jobs at risk - business live: Rolling coverage of the latest economic and financial news, as John Lewis Partnership takes ‘sad but necessary’ decision not to reopen eight stores → https://is.gd/cUBbAk | 12:59 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for World: +1096 cases (now 12.3 million), +14 deaths (now 553278) since 32 minutes ago — Sri Lanka: +57 cases (now 2151) since 16 hours ago — Madagascar: +209 cases (now 3782) since 22 hours ago — Nepal: +108 cases (now 16531) since 22 hours ago | 13:06 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian: Workers fight back as hotels try to lay off staff and hire on the cheap: New legislation in California and other states aims to stop big firms using the pandemic to dismiss long-serving employees → https://is.gd/Aa4qO3 | 13:09 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian: US supreme court to rule on Trump tax returns while coronavirus cases soar – live updates: Trump criticized Fauci and said US was in a ‘good place’ as cases reached 3m George Floyd told officers ‘I can’t breathe’ more than 20 times, transcripts show Court to rule if congressional committees are allowed to see Trump [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/CVOAFh | 13:29 |
| CoronaBot_ | 04/r/covid19: Androgen Regulates SARS-CoV-2 Receptor Levels and Is Associated with Severe COVID-19 Symptoms in Men (82 votes) | https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.05.12.091082v2 | https://redd.it/hnykev | 13:44 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Kuwait: +833 cases (now 52840), +3 deaths (now 382) since a day ago — World: +857 cases (now 12.3 million), +13 deaths (now 553291) since 51 minutes ago — Namibia: +22 cases (now 615) since a day ago — California, US: +10 deaths (now 6723) since 10 hours ago | 13:51 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian: Coronavirus outbreak: UK coronavirus live: repaying crisis debt will take 'decades' and higher taxes likely, says IFS → https://is.gd/E8HjCE | 13:58 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Indian Express (Health): Destination of the week: Tourists in Spain will soon be able to enjoy coronavirus-free ‘Paradise’ vacation → https://is.gd/OKzK6d | 14:07 |
| James57 | is covid 19 a phys op ? | 14:17 |
| ecks | no | 14:24 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian: Coronavirus live news: WHO says pandemic still accelerating as global review announced: WHO appoints committee to evaluate response to Covid-19 crisis ; Serbia considers new lockdown after second night of riots; Infections worldwide pass 12m → https://is.gd/ykqcgC | 14:27 |
| James57 | how do you know? | 14:29 |
| James57 | thats exactly what a phys op does | 14:30 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Hindu: Persons with disabilities seek hike in relief: Persons with disabilities have urged the government to hike the relief given to them in view of the COVID 19 pandemic to ₹5000 from ₹1000.Members of t → https://is.gd/n2My7H | 14:36 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian: Donald Trump: US supreme court to rule on Trump tax returns while coronavirus cases soar – live updates → https://is.gd/CVOAFh | 14:46 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for World: +7118 cases (now 12.3 million), +150 deaths (now 553441) since an hour ago — Kenya: +447 cases (now 8975), +4 deaths (now 173) since a day ago — Dem. Rep. Congo: +414 cases (now 7846), +7 deaths (now 189) since 2 days ago — Brazil: +3464 cases (now 1.7 million), +34 deaths (now 68089) since 13 hours ago | 14:51 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian: Coronavirus live news: WHO says pandemic still accelerating as global review announced: WHO appoints committee to evaluate response to Covid-19 crisis ; Serbia considers new lockdown after second night of riots; Infections worldwide pass 12m → https://is.gd/ykqcgC | 14:56 |
| Brainstorm | New from NIH Director's blog: Meet the Researcher Leading NIH’s COVID-19 Vaccine Development Efforts: A safe, effective vaccine is the ultimate tool needed to end the coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) pandemic. Biomedical researchers are making progress every day towards such a vaccine, whether it’s devising innovative technologies or figuring [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/rcxkCA | 15:05 |
| Urchin[emacs] | %data croatia | 15:12 |
| Brainstorm | Urchin[emacs]: In Croatia, there have been 3416 confirmed cases (0.1% of the population) and 115 deaths (3.4% of cases) as of 23 minutes ago. 89764 tests were performed (3.8% positive). See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=Croatia for time series data. | 15:12 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian: Coronavirus outbreak: UK coronavirus live: repaying crisis debt will take 'decades' and higher taxes likely, says IFS → https://is.gd/E8HjCE | 15:15 |
| oxalis | can someone ELI5 the androgen thing?? | 15:15 |
| NoImNotNineVolt | there's an androgen thing? | 15:32 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health: (news): United warns 36,000 employees of potential job cuts as pandemic roils travel demand → https://is.gd/hLRi07 | 15:34 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian: Coronavirus outbreak: UK coronavirus live: repaying crisis debt will take 'decades' and higher taxes likely, says IFS → https://is.gd/E8HjCE | 15:44 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for World: +7007 cases (now 12.3 million), +232 deaths (now 553673) since an hour ago — United Kingdom: +642 cases (now 287621), +85 deaths (now 44602) since 23 hours ago — Saudi Arabia: +3183 cases (now 223327), +41 deaths (now 2100) since a day ago — North Macedonia: +166 cases (now 7572), +3 deaths (now 362) since a day ago | 15:52 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Hindu: Madurai: 600 fresh COVID-19 cases in 6 days → https://is.gd/ioCSne | 16:13 |
| Brainstorm | New from BBC Health: Coronavirus: Data shows cases in England falling: Two reports charting coronavirus show cases in England falling - with Leicester also seeing a fall. → https://is.gd/gUfECc | 16:22 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Hindu: Seven more cases in Kottayam: Total number of active cases in the district is 127 → https://is.gd/T0WTlC | 16:32 |
| LjL | too much The Hindu, removing | 16:36 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for World: +9316 cases (now 12.3 million), +272 deaths (now 553945) since 48 minutes ago — India: +8188 cases (now 780054), +243 deaths (now 21417) since 48 minutes ago — Maryland, US: +586 cases (now 71447), +13 deaths (now 3288) since a day ago — US: +723 cases (now 3.2 million), +20 deaths (now 134940) since 48 minutes ago | 16:37 |
| Jigsy | %cases UK | 16:40 |
| Brainstorm | Jigsy: In United Kingdom, there have been 287621 confirmed cases (0.4% of the population) and 44602 deaths (15.5% of cases) as of 51 minutes ago. 11.3 million tests were performed (2.5% positive). See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=United%20Kingdom for time series data. | 16:40 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian: Coronavirus live news: WHO says pandemic still accelerating as global review announced: WHO appoints committee to evaluate response to Covid-19 crisis ; Serbia considers new lockdown after second night of riots; Infections worldwide pass 12m → https://is.gd/ykqcgC | 16:43 |
| Brainstorm | New from Reddit (test): Covid2019: Top 15 Country by Total Coronavirus Cases (31 December 2019 to 8 July 2020) → https://is.gd/w4ZYCB | 16:53 |
| nixonix | https://www.wantedinmilan.com/news/italy-bergamo-hospital-intensive-care-unit-is-covid-19-free.html | 16:56 |
| nixonix | %title | 16:56 |
| Brainstorm | nixonix: From www.wantedinmilan.com: Italy: Bergamo hospital intensive care unit is covid-19 free | 16:56 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian: Coronavirus outbreak: UK coronavirus live: gym announcement imminent; all state school pupils in Wales to return in September → https://is.gd/E8HjCE | 17:02 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for World: +10263 cases (now 12.3 million), +133 deaths (now 554078) since 36 minutes ago — US: +9061 cases (now 3.2 million), +119 deaths (now 135059) since 36 minutes ago — Florida, US: +8935 cases (now 232718), +119 deaths (now 4009) since 23 hours ago — Iowa, US: +126 cases (now 33012) since 36 minutes ago | 17:07 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health: (news): CDC won't change school reopening guidelines Trump says are too tough, but more direction is coming → https://is.gd/KLt6V1 | 17:21 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Greece: +50 cases (now 3672) since 23 hours ago — World: +96 cases (now 12.3 million) since 18 minutes ago — Tajikistan: +46 cases (now 6410) since a day ago | 17:22 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian: Coronavirus outbreak: UK coronavirus live: gym announcement imminent; all state school pupils in Wales to return in September → https://is.gd/E8HjCE | 17:31 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Atlantic: The Tragic Loss of Coronavirus Patients’ Final Words: Of all the wrongdoings of this pandemic, the one that haunts me most is how people are left to die alone. Health-care workers have been heroic throughout all this, but they do not replace the loved ones whom the dying need to be with, and speak with, even if only one last [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/SptFM5 | 17:40 |
| Brainstorm | New from Reddit (test): nCoV: Global COVID Cases For 09JUL20 → https://is.gd/XCgnyo | 17:50 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for World: +18535 cases (now 12.3 million), +402 deaths (now 554480) since 34 minutes ago — India: +10595 cases (now 790649), +169 deaths (now 21586) since an hour ago — Arizona, US: +4057 cases (now 112671), +75 deaths (now 2038) since a day ago — US: +4073 cases (now 3.2 million), +93 deaths (now 135152) since 48 minutes ago | 17:52 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Alabama, US: +2212 cases (now 49174), +10 deaths (now 1068) since a day ago — North Carolina, US: +1739 cases (now 79349) since 16 hours ago — World: +5757 cases (now 12.3 million), +69 deaths (now 554549) since 18 minutes ago — US: +4843 cases (now 3.2 million), +48 deaths (now 135200) since 18 minutes ago | 18:07 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian: Coronavirus outbreak: UK coronavirus live: Oliver Dowden hosts press briefing as gyms and pools to reopen this month in England → https://is.gd/E8HjCE | 18:19 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Minnesota, US: +574 cases (now 40163), +5 deaths (now 1528) since 23 hours ago — World: +1589 cases (now 12.3 million), +20 deaths (now 554569) since 18 minutes ago — US: +1216 cases (now 3.2 million), +11 deaths (now 135211) since 18 minutes ago — Oklahoma, US: +603 cases (now 18496), +3 deaths (now 410) since 23 hours ago | 18:22 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for World: +1967 cases (now 12.3 million), +10 deaths (now 554579) since 18 minutes ago — Dominican Rep.: +1202 cases (now 40790), +13 deaths (now 842) since a day ago — North Dakota, US: +99 cases (now 4070) since a day ago — Montana, US: +95 cases (now 1466), +2 deaths (now 25) since 23 hours ago | 18:37 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian: Coronavirus live news: WHO says pandemic still accelerating as global review announced: WHO appoints committee to evaluate response to Covid-19 crisis ; Serbia considers new lockdown after second night of riots; Infections worldwide pass 12m → https://is.gd/ykqcgC | 18:47 |
| CoronaBot_ | 04/r/coronavirus: Florida man, His 3 Sons Who Sold Toxic Bleach As COVID-19 Miracle Cure Charged (10147 votes) | https://breakingwide.com/florida-man-his-3-sons-who-sold-toxic-bleach-as-covid-19-miracle-cure-charged/ | https://redd.it/ho0wyw | 18:53 |
| Brainstorm | New from Reddit (test): CoronaVirusInfo: Coronavirus Therapeutic Treatment : The Potential of Lenzilumab → https://is.gd/qVnJt0 | 19:07 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for World: +15172 cases (now 12.3 million), +361 deaths (now 554940) since 49 minutes ago — Brazil: +7619 cases (now 1.7 million), +266 deaths (now 68355) since 4 hours ago — US: +2690 cases (now 3.2 million), +29 deaths (now 135242) since 49 minutes ago — India: +2637 cases (now 794196), +27 deaths (now 21622) since 49 minutes ago | 19:23 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian: Coronavirus outbreak: Coronavirus live news: WHO says pandemic still accelerating; 624 Romania patients discharge themselves from hospital → https://is.gd/ykqcgC | 19:26 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian: Australian universities: Almost half of Australian PhD students considering disengaging from studies due to pandemic → https://is.gd/JKXoKU | 19:44 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Wisconsin, US: +754 cases (now 33908), +2 deaths (now 809) since 22 hours ago — World: +1861 cases (now 12.3 million), +63 deaths (now 555003) since 19 minutes ago — US: +1251 cases (now 3.2 million), +39 deaths (now 135281) since 19 minutes ago — New York, US: +497 cases (now 424760), +32 deaths (now 32343) since 16 hours ago | 19:44 |
| cusp[m] | hi | 19:46 |
| LjL | hi | 19:47 |
| CoronaBot_ | 04/r/covid19: Hydroxychloroquine as an aerosol might markedly reduce and even prevent severe clinical symptoms after SARS-CoV-2 infection (86 votes) | https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0306987720307076 | https://redd.it/ho469y | 19:48 |
| LjL | maybe 100 years from now we'll know whether hydroxychloroquine is objectively useful without fear of results being politically/economically influenced | 19:49 |
| LjL | "Empirical data on self-medication with a one-week aerosol application by two of the authors is presented. Inhalation was well tolerated without relevant side effects." | 19:52 |
| LjL | that's what the study really says. they tried it themselves and didn't die. | 19:52 |
| CoronaBot_ | 04/r/covid19: High levels of SARS-CoV-2 specific T-cells with restricted functionality in patients with severe course of COVID-19 (83 votes) | https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.07.08.20148718v1 | https://redd.it/ho1by1 | 19:52 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Ireland: +23 cases (now 25565), +5 deaths (now 1743) since 13 hours ago — World: +40 cases (now 12.3 million), +5 deaths (now 555008) since 19 minutes ago — Germany: +16 cases (now 198942) since 34 minutes ago — Iowa, US: +1 cases (now 33124) since 34 minutes ago | 19:53 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian: Business: Boots to cut 4,000 jobs as John Lewis to shut eight stores, putting 1,300 jobs at risk - as it happened → https://is.gd/cUBbAk | 19:55 |
| LjL | some moron came here from Bangladesh, was found positive and supposed to self-quarantine, instead he travelled by train around central Italy for five days, until he was caught with cough and fever at Fiumicino airport | 20:04 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian: UK coronavirus live: beauty salons, outdoor theatres, gyms and pools to reopen in England: Dowden says beauty salons can reopen on Monday; theatres can put on outdoor shows from this weekend; repaying crisis debt will take ‘decades’ and higher taxes likely , says IFS → https://is.gd/E8HjCE | 20:04 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Djibouti: +66 cases (now 4955), +1 deaths (now 56) since 23 hours ago — Maldives: +36 cases (now 2553) since 23 hours ago — World: +343 cases (now 12.3 million), +35 deaths (now 555043) since 24 minutes ago — New Jersey, US: +164 cases (now 177625), +32 deaths (now 15448) since 17 hours ago | 20:08 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health: (news): Airborne transmission of coronavirus in restaurants, gyms and other closed spaces can't be ruled out, WHO says → https://is.gd/g01hbG | 20:14 |
| LjL | the interesting thing is that it couldn't be ruled out ALL ALONG either | 20:16 |
| LjL | but before they were being very duplicitous about it ("no evidence") | 20:16 |
| ubLIX[m] | there is no evidence the WHO wasn't not being not duplicitous | 20:19 |
| ubLIX[m] | i hope that is clear | 20:19 |
| iz | lol | 20:19 |
| iz | are you being ironic? | 20:19 |
| iz | oh you are | 20:19 |
| ubLIX[m] | s/ironic/silly/ | 20:20 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for World: +2898 cases (now 12.3 million), +29 deaths (now 555072) since 20 minutes ago — US: +2896 cases (now 3.2 million), +29 deaths (now 135342) since 20 minutes ago — South Carolina, US: +1782 cases (now 50691), +21 deaths (now 905) since 23 hours ago — Ohio, US: +1114 cases (now 61331), +8 deaths (now 3006) since 17 hours ago | 20:23 |
| iz | yeah, silly is more apt, ironic only fits under alanis song rules | 20:24 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health: California and Florida hit record for average daily coronavirus cases as U.S. hospitalizations surge: Florida also saw a spike in the percentage of positive Covid-19 tests at 18.4% on Wednesday, after Vice President Mike Pence said the state's so-called positivity rate was "flattening." → https://is.gd/YAHK7h | 21:11 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian: California: Covid-19 cases tied to fraternity parties disrupt UC Berkeley’s reopening plans → https://is.gd/0i0gEb | 21:21 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for World: +7195 cases (now 12.3 million), +55 deaths (now 555127) since an hour ago — Costa Rica: +649 cases (now 6485) since 14 hours ago — US: +5555 cases (now 3.2 million), +46 deaths (now 135388) since an hour ago — Georgia (US), US: +2837 cases (now 106727), +8 deaths (now 2930) since a day ago | 21:23 |
| CoronaBot_ | 04/r/covid19: Air recirculation role in the infection with COVID-19, lessons learned from Diamond Princess cruise ship (80 votes) | https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.07.08.20148775v1 | https://redd.it/ho74f7 | 21:37 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for South Dakota, US: +94 cases (now 7336), +3 deaths (now 101) since a day ago — US: +610 cases (now 3.2 million), +26 deaths (now 135414) since 20 minutes ago — World: +610 cases (now 12.3 million), +26 deaths (now 555153) since 20 minutes ago — North Carolina, US: +290 cases (now 79639), +23 deaths (now 1491) since 3 hours ago | 21:38 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian: Coronavirus outbreak: Coronavirus live news: WHO says pandemic still accelerating; 624 Romania patients discharge themselves from hospital → https://is.gd/ykqcgC | 21:40 |
| CoronaBot_ | 04/r/coronavirus: If someone asks: What's the evidence for mask wearing? Here is a list of *SEVENTY* papers, including reviews/meta-analysis and individual studies, in reverse chronological order. (10444 votes) | https://threader.app/thread/1279144399897866248 | https://redd.it/ho40c4 | 21:53 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health: California and Florida hit record for average daily coronavirus cases as U.S. hospitalizations surge: Florida also saw a spike in the percentage of positive Covid-19 tests at 18.4% on Wednesday, after Vice President Mike Pence said the state's so-called positivity rate was "flattening." → https://is.gd/YAHK7h | 21:59 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for South Africa: +13674 cases (now 238339), +118 deaths (now 3720) since 21 hours ago — World: +17894 cases (now 12.4 million), +157 deaths (now 555310) since 34 minutes ago — US: +3899 cases (now 3.2 million), +38 deaths (now 135452) since 34 minutes ago — Texas, US: +2640 cases (now 232259), +18 deaths (now 2962) since 19 hours ago | 22:08 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian: Coronavirus outbreak: Coronavirus live news: WHO says pandemic still accelerating; 624 Romania patients discharge themselves from hospital → https://is.gd/ykqcgC | 22:08 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Oregon, US: +371 cases (now 11188), +6 deaths (now 230) since a day ago — Massachusetts, US: +295 cases (now 110897), +25 deaths (now 8268) since a day ago — US: +1923 cases (now 3.2 million), +48 deaths (now 135500) since 21 minutes ago — World: +1923 cases (now 12.4 million), +48 deaths (now 555358) since 21 minutes ago | 22:23 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for World: +7490 cases (now 12.4 million), +104 deaths (now 555462) since 36 minutes ago — US: +6306 cases (now 3.2 million), +40 deaths (now 135540) since 36 minutes ago — California, US: +4325 cases (now 300400), +16 deaths (now 6739) since 9 hours ago — Egypt: +950 cases (now 79254), +53 deaths (now 3617) since a day ago | 22:54 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health: (news): Airborne transmission of coronavirus in restaurants, gyms and other closed spaces can't be ruled out, WHO says → https://is.gd/g01hbG | 22:56 |
| CoronaBot_ | 04/r/covid19: The best (and worst) materials for masks (80 votes) | https://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2020-07/uoa-tb070820.php | https://redd.it/ho2txb | 23:11 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian: Coronavirus live news: fears as first case reported in rebel-held Syrian camps: WHO says pandemic is still accelerating; Hundreds of Romanians check themselves out of hospital; Serbia considers new lockdown → https://is.gd/ykqcgC | 23:16 |
| LjL | i don't think this holidays reopening of Schengen is going to work out well | 23:33 |
| LjL | Italy is now banning entry from a number of countries (since the EU-wide ban on mostly everyone has huge exceptions for seasonal workers and workers in general), but is that effective when those people can just enter another Schengen country and then go to Italy from there? | 23:33 |
| nixonix | finns are banned? | 23:40 |
| nixonix | no worries, take your time | 23:40 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for World: +34902 cases (now 12.4 million), +939 deaths (now 556401) since an hour ago — Brazil: +28500 cases (now 1.8 million), +829 deaths (now 69184) since 4 hours ago — US: +5290 cases (now 3.2 million), +106 deaths (now 135646) since an hour ago — Bulgaria: +330 cases (now 6672), +3 deaths (now 262) since 23 hours ago | 23:54 |
| LjL | nixonix, lol, i don't think so (besides finland is in schengen) | 23:59 |
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