libera/##covid-19/ Monday, 2022-10-31

BrainstormNew from ##covid-19 Zotero group: Is SARS-CoV-2 an oncogenic virus?: Type Journal Article Author Alberto Gómez-Carballa Author Federico Martinón-Torres Author Antonio Salas URL https://www.journalofinfection.com/article/S0163-4453(22)00469-8/fulltext Volume 85 Issue 5 Pages 573-607 Publication Journal of Infection [... want %more?] → https://www.zotero.org/groups/covid_links/items/6292C3S900:00
BrainstormUpdates for Mexico: +2332 cases, +23 deaths since 3 days ago00:06
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: I Just Got Boosted. Why Did I Catch Covid? → https://old.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/yhukpi/i_just_got_boosted_why_did_i_catch_covid/01:02
BrainstormNew from Reddit (test): CoronaVirus_2019_nCoV: Ondansetron use associated with increased survival in mechanically ventilated COVID-19 patients → https://old.reddit.com/r/CoronaVirus_2019_nCoV/comments/yhwu1z/ondansetron_use_associated_with_increased/02:26
BrainstormUpdates for Rwanda: +28 cases since 6 days ago03:04
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Epidemiologist Jeremy Farrar on the Next Viral Threat: “I Fear We Are at the Beginning of an Era of Pandemics” → https://old.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/yhye8d/epidemiologist_jeremy_farrar_on_the_next_viral/03:41
BrainstormUpdates for New Zealand: +20456 cases since 5 days ago04:06
BrainstormUpdates for Nagano, Japan: +1527 cases since a day ago — Hiroshima, Japan: +1414 cases since a day ago — Selangor, Malaysia: +1389 cases since a day ago — Tottori, Japan: +293 cases since a day ago07:01
BrainstormNew from Science-Based Medicine: The war on the science-based regulation of medicine accelerates: Last week, it was reported how increasingly there is a war on the science-based regulation of medicine and physicians. It's an old story, but unfortunately the forces arrayed against science-based policy have been [... want %more?] → https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/war-on-vaccines-accelerates/08:10
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Singapore must be prepared to reimpose curbs like masking in case of nasty Covid-19 variant: Health Minister Ong Ye Kung → https://old.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/yi6yfe/singapore_must_be_prepared_to_reimpose_curbs_like/11:06
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Shanghai's Disney Resort closes abruptly over Covid with visitors stuck inside → https://old.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/yi7oiu/shanghais_disney_resort_closes_abruptly_over/11:43
BrainstormUpdates for Latvia: +935 cases since 2 days ago12:06
BrainstormNew from Reddit (test): nCoV: Global COVID Cases For 31OCT22 → https://old.reddit.com/r/nCoV/comments/yi8ysh/global_covid_cases_for_31oct22/12:30
BrainstormNew from New Scientist: A soup of omicron subvariants could drive the next covid-19 wave: The subvariants BQ.1.1 and XBB may somewhat evade immunity brought about by vaccines or past infections → https://www.newscientist.com/article/2344722-a-soup-of-omicron-subvariants-could-drive-the-next-covid-19-wave/12:39
BrainstormNew from r/COVID19: Weekly Scientific Discussion Thread - October 31, 2022: This weekly thread is for scientific discussion pertaining to COVID-19. Please post questions about the science of this virus and disease here to collect them for others and clear up post space for [... want %more?] → https://old.reddit.com/r/COVID19/comments/yi9t7x/weekly_scientific_discussion_thread_october_31/13:07
BrainstormUpdates for Israel: +770 cases since 16 hours ago — Qatar: +530 cases since 22 hours ago — Saudi Arabia: +327 cases, +1 deaths since a day ago13:08
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: A Disney resort in China is locked down because of Covid and visitors can't leave until they test negative → https://old.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/yia1ua/a_disney_resort_in_china_is_locked_down_because/13:35
BrainstormNew from r/COVID19: COVID19: Kinetics of the SARS-CoV-2 Antibody Avidity Response Following Infection and Vaccination → https://old.reddit.com/r/COVID19/comments/yibtpj/kinetics_of_the_sarscov2_antibody_avidity/14:41
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Covid uses our proteins against us. A new strategy seeks to block that. → https://old.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/yick13/covid_uses_our_proteins_against_us_a_new_strategy/15:09
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: How COVID-19 damages lungs: The virus attacks mitochondria, continuing an ancient battle that began in the primordial soup → https://old.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/yidg2c/how_covid19_damages_lungs_the_virus_attacks/15:37
BrainstormNew from r/COVID19: COVID19: Intrapulmonary shunting is a key contributor to hypoxia in COVID-19: An update on the pathophysiology → https://old.reddit.com/r/COVID19/comments/yie80q/intrapulmonary_shunting_is_a_key_contributor_to/15:57
BrainstormUpdates for North Macedonia: +71 cases, +819 tests since 2 days ago16:02
BrainstormNew from ClinicalTrials.gov: (news): Effects of Inpatient Rehabilitation Measures in Long-COVID-19 Syndrome → https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT0559990616:06
BrainstormNew from ClinicalTrials.gov: (news): Evaluation of the Relationship of Vitamin D and Vitamin D Binding Protein With Disease Severity in Pediatric Sars-CoV2 → https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT0559895716:16
BrainstormNew from ClinicalTrials.gov: (news): Role of Tele-physical Therapy in Patients With Type 2 Diabetes Mellitus Following COVID-19 Infection. → https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT0559989316:25
python476hi16:27
LjLpython476, long time no die16:29
python476hi LjL16:32
python476i was looking for your nick in the list16:32
python476I came because I need tips about o2 levels16:32
python476I just spent a few minutes head down on my knees to get above 95%16:33
python476how are you ?16:33
BrainstormNew from ClinicalTrials.gov: (news): Nitric Oxide Nasal Spray (NONS) To Treat and Prevent the Exacerbation of Infection in Individuals With Mild COVID-19 → https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT0559991916:37
LjLpython476, i'm mostly fine16:39
LjLpython476, why do you have low sats?16:39
LjLdo you have COVID?16:39
LjLalso how low are they?16:39
python476how's your fam ?16:40
LjLsorry i didn't answer right away, i was troubleshooting a computer issue and thought you could wait a little, without having read what you said ;(16:40
python476i still have tastes and smell, my mom got covid 2 weeks ago and I didn't have any symptoms since ..16:40
python476maybe it's just lung infection16:40
LjLimmediate family is fine, only my sister got a mild case of covid. extended family is okay but they all got covid and have some more heart/misc issues16:40
python476that's cool16:41
LjLpython476, smell and taste loss is rare with Omicron16:41
python476ah16:41
LjLwhat's your sats16:41
LjLalso "just lung infection"16:41
LjLthat's called pneumonia and it's not "just" ;(16:41
python476when horizontal I get 96-9916:41
python476when sitting its 91-95516:41
python4769516:42
LjLpython476, below 92% here is the standard threshold for hospital referral, just fyi16:42
LjLbut many of these oximeters aren't great16:42
python476i've read 91-92 yeah16:42
python476that too, I dont want to call alarms because of some chinese electronics :D16:42
LjLpython476, so let me understand, your mom had covid, you didn't *knowingly* have covid, but now your sats are low? do you feel sick?16:42
python476not sick16:43
LjLdo you feel out of breath?16:43
python476just a little16:43
LjLhave you had covid at all?16:43
python476never tested positive16:43
python4762 vaccines16:43
LjLwhy just two :(16:43
python476forgot third16:43
LjLman i've had four16:43
LjLand i could still get sick, just probably not seriously16:44
python476did you ever caught it  ?16:44
LjLpython476, what sats do you get standing up? walking, if you can keep the device steady enough to measure that?16:44
LjLno16:44
python476gonna stand16:44
LjLbut i'm a hermit16:44
* LjL hopes python476 doesn't drop dead in the process16:46
python476well in times of pandemic that's the smart way of life16:46
python476strange oxymeter goes up when i stand16:46
python476but i feel weaker16:47
LjLpython476, keep the oximeter more or less at the height of your heart16:47
python476to avoid blood flow interfering ?16:48
LjLit's just the standard practice when measuring blood pressure too, although the amount of oxygen in your blood shouldn't depend on that16:48
BrainstormNew from ClinicalTrials.gov: (news): A Retrospective Cohort Study of Differential Attainment, COVID-19 and Chaos → https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT0559952916:48
python476fine16:48
LjLi know my measured sats go way down if i'm lying down and put my hands up16:48
LjLpython476, anyway here's my non-medical answer to how to get the sats back up16:49
LjL%fd Breathly16:49
BrainstormLjL, Breathly 1.9 (com.mmazzarolo.breathly) in f-droid.org: A simple way to focus on your breathing (last updated 2021-04-09, see https://github.com/mmazzarolo/breathly-app) installable from https://f-droid.org/packages/com.mmazzarolo.breathly16:49
python476yeah sure, my hands are leveled with my heart16:49
python476is that the 4 in 4 out ?16:49
LjLmy medical answer is if you have it at 92% or below steadily (i.e. for more than just half a minute) while sitting, go to hospital16:49
LjLpython476, it has several, plus custom, but yes it has square breathing too. but it counts for you so that's easier :P16:50
python476i like these apps, very effective16:50
LjLthere's also16:50
LjL%fd Breathap16:50
BrainstormLjL, No matching application was found, but, last time I checked, not all indexes could be downloaded! (eutopia.cz, f-droid.i2p.io failed)16:50
python476I was doing yoga like deep breathing recently16:50
python476very good too16:50
LjLbut i prefer Breathly especially because i don't have a good speech synthesizer, and Breathap uses that16:50
python476anyways if shit goes down again ill call emergencies to have their opinions16:51
python476thanks LjL16:51
LjLpython476, have you taken a covid test since starting to have these sats issues?16:51
LjLif not i'd definitely take a rapid test16:51
python476nah it's been very recent16:53
python476when my mother caught it I had zero problems, waited two weeks with no issues16:53
python476LjL: you still restore hifi ?16:55
LjLjust consider 95% or so is the "actual" limit. they make it 92% because of the unreliability of these instruments, but if you assume it's accurate and you always have less than 95% when sitting, that's not good news16:55
LjLpython476, i never did :( i wanted to get the one i bought repaired but i never did that either16:56
LjLi did break my computer though, so now i have a brand new one that's been variously getting on my nerves16:56
python476how did you break it ?16:57
LjLpython476, i just bought it with issues16:57
LjLthe seller failed to mention them, and actually reassured me it had been fully services just 4 years ago16:57
LjL*shrug*16:57
python476ha the perils of 2nd hand laptops16:57
LjLi had found a shop here in Milan that fixes audio equipment, but then covid social anxiety blah blah blah i never went there16:58
python476whats the new one like ?16:58
LjLpython476, oh no i thought you were talking about the stereo16:58
LjLthe laptop had problems threefold16:58
LjLthe battery was getting flat16:58
LjLthe keyboard part (it was a detachable) had become all broken and wobbly, i probably made a mistake by often carrying it from just one side16:59
LjLand finally... i dropped it and cracked the screen :(16:59
LjLthe new one is yet another Asus. i've waited almost a year to buy a Thinkpad hoping i could get something that would last me much longer this time, but then Thinkpads rose to ridiculous enough prices that i never bought one, although I waited a year hoping they'd go down a bit.17:00
python476here they're still low17:00
python476I've seen 2nd hands t470 around 220-26017:00
LjLit's still an expensive Asus that purports to last a long time, though (tested under the same military specs as Thinkpads and other fancy computers of the same category)17:00
python476i'd ship one if you want17:00
LjLpython476, i wanted a *new* Thinkpad :P17:00
python476ah17:01
python476thinkpads are forever new :p17:01
LjLand particularly a light one, since my back and wrists increasingly have issues17:01
LjLyes, well, my mom has a forever-thinkpad, it's fine for her, but I wouldn't be happy with 768 pixels vertically...17:01
LjLnor with 2.5kg of weight17:01
python476heh17:02
LjLi'm not even happy with the weight of this new Asus. it's 1.4kg, which is the same as my previous laplet, but... the Thinkpad X1 Carbon is 1kg, and i wanted something more like that17:02
LjLconsider that the laplet i had *even before* that one i broke was 10" and 500g (keyboard) +500g (screen)17:02
LjLthat was too small to completely replace a desktop, so i also still used a desktop17:03
LjLbut it opened my eyes on how nice it is to have a small, light computer to carry all the time17:03
LjLi just had to get one that wasn't *so* small17:03
LjLand then i ditched the desktop17:03
python476what brand did you find a 10" in ?17:04
python476so what kind of thinkpad would you like ? an x270 ?17:05
python476x1 ?17:05
LjLpython476, it was also an Asus. and before that, i had had an Asus EeePC. i'm probably a huge Asus fan without realizing. but in reality i hated all the Asus keyboards I've had17:06
python476lol17:06
BrainstormNew from ClinicalTrials.gov: (news): Recombinant COVID-19 Vaccine (CHO Cell, NVSI-06-09) Phase III Clinical Trial → https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT0559951617:07
LjLpython476, there are too many Thinkpads, but i was definitely focusing on the X1 Carbon, while sometimes looking at the X13 and other things that were never really available (or had silly prices). i also should have looked at AMD ones but it was hard enough to ingest information about Intel. for the most part I wanted to get one with 11th gen Intel, because I realized up to 10th gen, they kept using the same integrated graphics, obsolete since *before* my previous17:08
LjL2017 laptop... that's actually why I bought an X1 Yoga with 10th gen intel (didn't realize the Carbon could also have a touchscreen, thought only the Yoga did) and then returned it unopened17:08
LjLi'm not a gamer, but if one day i want to try out a game, i don't want to have an expensive computer that's still obsolete enough that it won't play it17:08
python476i get it, i felt the same17:09
python476the market is a bit confusing17:09
python476that's why i'd rather pay a little and get an old one17:09
LjLwell, that's what i did with my mom's computer because her requirements allowed for it... but I don't think I'd be happy17:10
LjLbut yes everything is confusing as fuck17:10
LjLi17:10
LjLi'm still postponing seriously looking at which TV to buy for my parents since the old broke, and it seems now every TV is a smart TV, so there's *so* much stuff I want to know about 43" TVs (which is what fits in the living room and also the only size my parents will be able to see these days :P), their software, their remote controls, of course also their basic display technology... many of these things, i have no idea how to know17:12
LjLalso, note that i wrote "i" on a single line because I'm still not completely accustomed to the shitty keyboard of my new laplet, since it has an ANSI-style Enter key for... some reason17:12
LjLmost laptops these days no longer come with "real" ISO and ANSI keyboards, they save money by having the same cutouts for both, and then they have ugly keys touching one another17:13
LjLbut in most cases they still shape the Enter key the ISO way when selling ISO models. not this one.17:13
LjLit also has a keyboard that's smaller in size than the standard, so at first i was like "uh? why am i hitting all the wrong keys?" and i think that's unacceptable in such a premium model, but... to be honest, i've gotten used to it (apart from the Enter key) and i kind of like the keyboard response. so all is well that ends well, but it's still an inadequate keyboard in principle.17:14
python476wait17:15
python476what's an ISO Enter key ?17:15
python476ohh the shape17:16
LjLpython476, an ISO keyboard has a couple more keys than an ANSI (American) keyboard, plus the different shaped Enter key17:16
LjLthe other prominent ones are17:17
python476i had no idea this was standardized17:17
LjLleft Shift is small, to make space for an additional key left of Z (in QWERTY, not sure what you have there in AZERTY!)17:17
BrainstormNew from ClinicalTrials.gov: (news): Community-based Sero-epidemiological Study of COVID-19 → https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT0559955517:17
LjLthere is an additional key somewhere around Enter (sometimes it's obtained by making the Backspace key take up only "one key" instead of two, but not always)17:18
* LjL-Matrix uploaded an image: (68KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/matrix.org/mEKIwsGCLgeQZFLAkDSZTniL/IMG_20221031_171828.jpg >17:18
* LjL-Matrix uploaded an image: (85KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/matrix.org/CVFRgYBAHpmikFsUzdNRwdUF/IMG_20221031_171822.jpg >17:18
LjLpython476, ↑ these are the tricks they use to avoid having two different cutouts17:19
LjLbut in the case of the Enter key it's just weird, because they *are* using the ANSI style even though they simplified the cutout so that they *could* use the ISO style... and yet, you can't call this an ANSI keyboard because it does have the <> next to Z17:19
* LjL-Matrix uploaded an image: (132KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/matrix.org/nDanSOtEobqxKtgZlgsnrsZg/IMG_20221031_172053.jpg >17:21
LjL-MatrixThis is how the Enter part is much more commonly done17:21
LjL-MatrixAlthough this one above is THE most terrible keyboard I've ever experienced anyway17:21
* LjL-Matrix uploaded an image: (77KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/matrix.org/GZokSGAfkcdcUBAvssrOsVfJ/IMG_20221031_172249.jpg >17:23
* LjL-Matrix uploaded an image: (63KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/matrix.org/ehHtaZqMkMbbIvCGJQygfmwv/IMG_20221031_172252.jpg >17:23
LjL-MatrixAnd this is how a (oldstyle Thinkpad) proper ANSI keyboard that doesn't attempt to double as an ISO keyboard has it17:23
python476brb, proning breathing time17:24
LjLif you have covid, or any type of pneumonia, i'm not sure these exercises are what you should be doing as opposed to being seen by a doctor...17:26
BrainstormNew from r/COVID19: COVID19: The Impact of World Trade Center Related Medical Conditions on the Severity of COVID-19 Disease and Its Long-Term Sequelae → https://old.reddit.com/r/COVID19/comments/yig6f1/the_impact_of_world_trade_center_related_medical/17:26
python476LjL: it's late so I wont get a doctor today, at best ill visit the ER17:31
Alex1138[m]hello and welcome to #keyboardporn17:31
python476hehe17:32
LjLpython476, i'd leave the ER alone unless you really can't wait, tbh, because like... more chances to get COVID (or other stuff) there than anywhere else. but i'd want to have a chat with a GP and ideally a pneumologist17:35
LjLalso if it doesn't go away or it gets worse, take a COVID test, that really goes without saying...17:35
LjLAlex1138[m], sorry but it's not like there's ever any chat in here anymore ;(17:35
python476yeah that's why I didn't want to go to ER already, it's risky17:36
python476i can always call some night doctor17:36
Alex1138[m]no do carry on, i wanna see all the keyboards17:36
python476the only one that matter https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffab&q=space+cadet+keyboard&iax=images&ia=images17:36
LjLi used to have a whole series of youtube videos on my keyboards (which are not standalone keyboards, but part of my collection of old notebooks/PDAs)17:38
LjLbut one day i got mad and deleted almost all of my videos17:38
python476what made you mad ?17:47
LjLpython476, i don't even remember, something like my friends and the internet in general and the realization my videos are feeding a system i hate17:48
LjL(however tinily)17:48
python476ah systemic rage17:53
python476LjL: ever dreamt of having a tiny house in a forest far from modern society ?17:54
BrainstormUpdates for China: +7638 cases, +12 deaths since a day ago18:07
LjLpython476, dreamt, yes, but not in the sense of "well, maybe i could do this", just in a daydream "this feels cool to imagine" way, because i'm inept enough in reality that i couldn't survive like htat18:19
python476yeah i'm a bit further on this scale but not far18:21
LjLAlex1138[m], python476: i remembered wrong anyway, i didn't delete those video and the playlist. so if bored and wanting to hear funny accents and keys clicking, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pLxH5j9WcY&list=PLUHYzV0mEx6FMoxcqBdrnirnwbo8MqU8C18:21
BrainstormNew from WebMD: Hearts From Donors Who Had COVID Are Safe for Transplant: Data from a new study shows that hearts from COVID-19 positive donors may be as safe to transplant as those from someone without the virus. → https://www.webmd.com/heart-disease/heart-failure/news/20221031/hearts-from-donors-who-had-covid-are-safe-for-transplant18:32
python476damn wifi19:05
python476saw your reviews LjL, pretty great19:05
LjLtoo bad these things have become super expensive now on ebay19:07
LjLwell not "now", for a few years19:07
LjLi mean, good for me if i were to resell them, but i'm not, so19:07
python476you're doing capitalism wrong19:20
python476i have a grid laptop (not the compass, a later i386 model) waiting for a video19:21
BrainstormNew from CIDRAP: COVID-19 Scan for Oct 31, 2022: State COVID vaccine mandates Vaccine side effects after previous COVID-19 → https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2022/10/covid-19-scan-oct-31-202219:29
BrainstormNew from The Atlantic: The Worst Pediatric-Care Crisis in Decades: At the height of the coronavirus pandemic, as lines of ambulances roared down the streets and freezer vans packed into parking lots, the pediatric emergency department at Our Lady of the Lake Children’s [... want %more?] → https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2022/10/rise-of-rsv-flu-covid-infections-kids/671947/20:25
BrainstormNew from CIDRAP: Pandemic didn't change infant nerve development, study finds: Mary Van Beusekom | News Writer | CIDRAP News Oct 31, 2022 The risk of overall infant neurodevelopment didn't change in the first year of COVID-19. → https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2022/10/pandemic-didnt-change-infant-nerve-development-study-finds20:34
BrainstormUpdates for Uzbekistan: +76 cases since 2 days ago — Papua New Guinea: +72 cases since 4 days ago21:01
BrainstormNew from StatNews: Opinion: Inconsistent clinical practices thwart wider use of personalized medicine: A paradigm shift toward personalized medicine won't occur just because new tests and treatments become available. It requires updating policies and practices [... want %more?] → https://www.statnews.com/2022/10/31/inconsistent-clinical-practices-thwart-wider-use-of-personalized-medicine/21:12
python476in case people are in need for strange futuristic embryology research21:46
python476https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RwEKg5cjkKQ here's an important interview21:46
BrainstormUpdates for France: +42947 cases, +162 deaths since 2 days ago — Canada: +561 cases, +2 deaths since a day ago22:03
LjL"Wuhan" is top trending word in my twitter and I don't quite understand why22:05
LjLalthough there are a couple of tweets showing military moving in "to help enforce the new lockdown"22:05
LjLbut most are just debating the usual virus origin theories22:05
python476then there's shangai disney park22:06
BrainstormNew from CIDRAP: More severe COVID-19 may raise risk of long COVID: Stephanie Soucheray | News Reporter | CIDRAP News Oct 31, 2022 Meta-analysis finds that 51% of patients with milder cases, 67% of hospitalized patients, and 74% of ICU patients had long COVID. → https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2022/10/more-severe-covid-19-may-raise-risk-long-covid22:09
python476what triggers brainstor m ?22:11
LjLit just monitors a bunch of RSS feeds22:13
LjLwith or without a keyword list22:13
python476ok22:20
python476it's been so long since my last visit .. i forgot it was a bot22:21
LjLhttps://github.com/ljl-covid/links/blob/master/feeds.py22:21
python476thanks, I was hunger for sneks22:24
python476do you run it locally ? or on some VPS ?22:25
LjLlocally22:35
LjLwhew, at the last minute they extended the mask mandate in hospitals and elderly residences22:37
LjLthey didn't want to, but pretty much every prominent doctor, including the ones on their political side, rose up in arms to make them22:37
BrainstormNew from Reddit (test): CoronaVirus_2019_nCoV: Eric Topol on Twitter: "The new variants with marked immune evasive properties are quickly picking up additional mutations. Important thread summary of a preprint just posted." → https://old.reddit.com/r/CoronaVirus_2019_nCoV/comments/yipz8r/eric_topol_on_twitter_the_new_variants_with/22:56
LjLit's never good news is it22:57
LjLantibodies tested from CoronaVac though. not sure if they translate.22:58
LjL"Lastly, I want to emphasize that the current convergent evolution trend can be predicted. See below, the S-series pseudoviruses were predicted/constructed in July, and check how close they are to the emerging mutants. However, I thought our prediction would last till next July😂"22:59
LjLif it can be predicted, let's make vaccines for that. seriously. more seriously than i said it the previous N times.22:59
LjL( https://twitter.com/yunlong_cao/status/1587038357116198912 )23:00
BrainstormNew from ##covid-19 Zotero group: Imprinted SARS-CoV-2 humoral immunity induces convergent Omicron RBD evolution: Type Preprint Author Yunlong Cao Author Fanchong Jian Author Jing Wang Author Yuanling Yu Author Weiliang Song Author Ayijiang Yisimayi Author Jing Wang Author Ran An Author Xiaosu Chen Author Na Zhang [... want %more?] → https://www.zotero.org/groups/covid_links/items/KH89R6WQ23:05
BrainstormNew from ##covid-19 Zotero group: LjL: Latest update on some new convergent variants. Summary: 1. XBB, XBB.1, CH.1.1, BA.4.6.3, and BQ.1.1.10 (BQ.1.1+Y144del) are currently the most immune-evasive strains to monitor. 2. BQ.1*+NTD mutations, such as Y144del, makes them much more immune evasive. [... want %more?] → https://www.zotero.org/groups/covid_links/items/MSC6NRQE23:15
BrainstormNew from Reddit (test): CoronaVirus_2019_nCoV: Post-acute health care burden after SARS-CoV-2 infection: a retrospective cohort study | CMAJ → https://old.reddit.com/r/CoronaVirus_2019_nCoV/comments/yiqrfl/postacute_health_care_burden_after_sarscov2/23:24

Generated by irclog2html.py 2.17.0 by Marius Gedminas - find it at https://mg.pov.lt/irclog2html/!