| Vall | Hello everyone | 20:48 |
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| * Vall tips his hat to c0rnelius | 20:49 | |
| c0rnelius | Hello, Vall | 20:50 |
| Vall | c0rnelius: "Another one runs weechat, whilst another runs a webserver." -> Really? Won't a RPi4 for example run both of these with power to spare? | 20:53 |
| c0rnelius | I would think they would? But are you using glowing bear? | 20:54 |
| c0rnelius | Because that could be a prob | 20:55 |
| Vall | Really? I was not aware that weechat with glowing bear was such a hog | 20:57 |
| c0rnelius | No I mean... If ur running two diff web services? | 20:57 |
| c0rnelius | Should be fine other wise. | 20:57 |
| c0rnelius | Shit I run it on a AllWinner H5. NPs | 20:57 |
| Vall | I'm not really a fan of Allwinner hardware. Nor Rockchip for instance. | 20:58 |
| Vall | I fear they come with "PCC Inside(TM)" | 20:59 |
| c0rnelius | I just use what works. Sometimes it doesn't :) | 20:59 |
| Vall | LOL yeah | 20:59 |
| c0rnelius | I build all my own stuff these days. Idon't worry about such things, | 20:59 |
| Vall | I preferably use RPis | 20:59 |
| Vall | I still have a RPi1 that's still good for some stuff | 20:59 |
| c0rnelius | But the Pi should be able to handle this, just if you have more than one web service going on could be something creating conflicts. | 20:59 |
| Vall | And my new RPi4 has been working great (thanks to you helping me with the image, btw -- I'm still running it) | 21:00 |
| c0rnelius | Good to hear | 21:00 |
| Vall | c0rnelius: "I build all my own stuff these days. Idon't worry about such things" -> hummrmmr... aren't there any closed blobs (eg firmware) that you have to run? | 21:05 |
| c0rnelius | Everything does? But for the m ost part allwinner just uses arm-trusted-firmware for uboot and so does rockchip. The only really sketchy ones right now are Pi and Amlogic, | 21:08 |
| c0rnelius | Who knows whats really going on there? | 21:09 |
| c0rnelius | There is of course misc firmware blobs for onboard stuff here and there... But thats everything right? | 21:10 |
| Vall | c0rnelius: yep, I think everything nowadays requires closed blobs for minimum functionality. But at least Broadcom would come with "NSA Inside(TM)", not "PCC Inside(TM)" | 21:13 |
| Vall | What the opensource world really needs is an opensource/openhardware CPU/GPU SoC running on a fully opensource/openhardware board | 21:14 |
| c0rnelius | Vall: Well thats way off at our current rate. But... Do you really try the foundation to be open and free? | 21:15 |
| Vall | Then we could have a fully open system, with no surprises... | 21:15 |
| c0rnelius | Can't even boot the board with out using those blobs. Dang thing is still stuck on booting from fat :) | 21:15 |
| c0rnelius | Which is super annoying | 21:15 |
| Vall | The CPU is already there, I think -- at least in principle: RISC-V | 21:15 |
| Vall | Not hard to burn a VDL for it on a FPGA | 21:16 |
| Vall | The problem is all the rest :-/ | 21:16 |
| Vall | yeah, agreed | 21:16 |
| c0rnelius | We shall see. I welcome the day. | 21:16 |
| Vall | (booting from fat sucks big time) | 21:16 |
| c0rnelius | Very much so | 21:16 |
| Vall | that would make two of us, mate :-) | 21:17 |
| Vall | I played with FPGAs a while ago, and dang those things are powerful | 21:17 |
| c0rnelius | Hmm. Never played with one. Looks like fun. | 21:27 |
| Vall | Yeah, kinda head-scratching at times (have to worry about logic gate allocations and clocks and delays etc was totally outside my experience) but in the end, very liberating | 21:53 |
| Vall | That was quite some time ago, way before RISC-V, and at that time FPGAs were much smaller (at least the ones available for reasonable costs) | 21:54 |
| Vall | So I had fun implementing the Z80 CPU plus specialized hardware I needed at the time. | 21:55 |
| Vall | But I see nowadays there are both VHDL (sorry I said VDL above, my mistake) code for a full 32-bit RISC-V CPU, *and* FPGAs powerful enough to run it at 166Mhz without much trouble: https://github.com/stnolting/neorv32#FPGA-Implementation-Results---CPU | 22:04 |
| * Vall sighs | 22:06 | |
| Vall | if I didn't already have a ton of projects under way, I could well get back into FPGAs just for the fun of it | 22:06 |
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