| bgstack15 | JackFrost: you have wallops?! Also, why have there been so many wallops on here in the past month?! | 00:55 |
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| brocashelm | that's the slackware 15 announcement i saw | 01:06 |
| golinux | Wallops a really annoying. Makes more work for me to remove them from the logs so I don't have to look at them. | 01:10 |
| golinux | I was given a command to stop them by libera staff but they keep coming. :( | 01:10 |
| golinux | Maybe joerg has a magic incantation . . . | 01:11 |
| UsL | I thought you just /mode $nick -w | 01:12 |
| golinux | I think that's what I did | 01:17 |
| golinux | Let's see if that works | 01:17 |
| JackFrost | bgstack15: I'm Libera staff, so yes. OFTC staff for that matter too. It seems like there's been more because two months ago we set +w on by default now. I'd be happy to assist if you don't want them, with turning that off on your client. | 01:17 |
| JackFrost | golinux: You likely did, but then reconnected. Set it in your client. | 01:18 |
| UsL | perosnally I like wallops. Let's me now if a server is about to go down for upgrades or what not (well, if they decide to use that instead of server notice). | 01:19 |
| bgstack15 | I suppose I will research how to turn wallops messages off in pidgin, because the messages have never been transactional. They've always been random things, like Slackware's 15-year announcement. | 01:21 |
| golinux | Can I just delete this? quote WALLOPS :&2 | 01:22 |
| golinux | I haven't done anything yet if that was directed at me. | 01:23 |
| JackFrost | golinux: https://hexchat.readthedocs.io/en/latest/settings.html#list-of-settings could help. | 01:23 |
| golinux | I am still on xchat | 01:24 |
| golinux | Just can't seem to let go of my jessie setup. | 01:24 |
| JackFrost | Figure they might have the same config. | 01:24 |
| onefang | There was a Slackware 15 announcement? | 01:25 |
| golinux | And terrified of the changes that I will be facing. | 01:25 |
| golinux | OK. I'll have a look. | 01:25 |
| JackFrost | onefang: Yeah, slack 15.0 was released, after 5 years of development. | 01:26 |
| onefang | I didn't see the announcement, and wallops isn't something I would turn off, coz normally it would things like UsL mentioned. | 01:27 |
| JackFrost | They're 'public interest' style stories usually, sometimes further info on upgrades but for big things we global. | 01:28 |
| onefang | Could be biboumi doesn't support them though. | 01:28 |
| bgstack15 | I don't object to wallops messages. I object to how pidgin displays them, which I realize is not your problem. | 01:28 |
| onefang | Yes I did see the "we are having tech troubles" message a few days ago. | 01:28 |
| JackFrost | bgstack15: FWIW, I highly object to how pidgin does them. Far too intrusive. :/ | 01:29 |
| joerg | golinux: hmm? | 01:29 |
| bgstack15 | I use pidgin out of inertia. I also vaguely remember using it for other types of chat interfaces, but irc is the last one left. Maybe I'll just move on to another client one of these days. | 01:30 |
| JackFrost | Hexchat is an OK gtk one, if you have a server then quassel has a neat client/core concept, if you're OK with Qt. | 01:31 |
| onefang | I use Psi+, with biboumi bridging IRC to XMPP. | 01:31 |
| bgstack15 | Don't most of the cool kids use terminal-based irc clients? | 01:31 |
| JackFrost | I don't even know those. :3 | 01:32 |
| JackFrost | bgstack15: I use irssi, weechat is another TUI option. | 01:32 |
| onefang | Maybe most of the cool greybeards use terminal-based irc clients. B-) | 01:34 |
| bgstack15 | Does irssi work well inside screen/tmux? | 01:34 |
| JackFrost | Of course, I use it in screen myself. I have a custom build of irssi though, for some fixes. >_> | 01:38 |
| bgstack15 | ofc you do! | 01:41 |
| JackFrost | Needed message tag support. | 01:43 |
| brocashelm | +1 for weechat | 01:48 |
| brocashelm | finch is also decent | 01:48 |
| bb|hcb | I'll rebuild python-apt-common-devuan because data changes are included at build time; I see no sane way to use the new versioning there without bumping the main part while i'd prefer to keep the version matching the debian one... | 02:04 |
| joerg | JackFrost: query? | 02:55 |
| JackFrost | joerg: Yeah that should be fine. | 02:56 |
| brocashelm | bgstack15: since you maintain gtk3-classic, do you think it would be challenging to build this for debian/devuan unstable? https://github.com/Dudemanguy/gtk | 02:59 |
| brocashelm | this concerns the gtk3 filechooser, which is a patch to solve the "infamous" bug | 03:00 |
| bgstack15 | brocashelm: Wow, that sounds like a nice patch! Um, it sounds like a patch that would need to be added to a gtk3 package at build time, so I would probably need to add it to the gtk3-classic build I do. | 03:58 |
| brocashelm | bgstack15: cool, i'll let the maintainer know. would be awesome to test that out :) | 04:00 |
| bgstack15 | I think the best course of action would be to ask to the gtk3-classic guy if he would be willing to incorporate that patch into his code base. | 04:01 |
| brocashelm | good idea | 04:01 |
| brocashelm | since that's what his fork aims to do | 04:01 |
| bgstack15 | It appears lah7 already does a number of actions to the File chooser. This one probably would fit right in, but I can't speak for him. | 04:02 |
| bgstack15 | I think he's going for "the way things were," which is a worthy goal. Improved usability might be outside his scope. | 04:02 |
| brocashelm | ah | 04:02 |
| bgstack15 | I highly recommend you ask about it on https://github.com/lah7/gtk3-classic/issues | 04:03 |
| bgstack15 | I think it's hilarious that there's so many people with their own improvements to GTK. I am not aware of any other project that is forked so much to fix "that one thing" so publicly. | 04:05 |
| onefang | They all forked to fix the same thing? | 04:07 |
| bgstack15 | No sorry, I was using that as a general expression. Everybody's got a bone to pick with the direction of GTK3. | 04:08 |
| onefang | I have a theory that the less quality a project has, the more it gets forked. | 04:08 |
| bgstack15 | They usually don't overlap, so it's usually possible to combine them, if the maintainers are interested. | 04:08 |
| onefang | Sounds like OpenSim server and Second Life / OpenSim viewers. I have my own forks. lol | 04:08 |
| brocashelm | i don't have a github account and i'm still having problems creating an account | 04:09 |
| onefang | Though in my case I plan to eventually rewrite them entirely. | 04:09 |
| brocashelm | but i'll look into it | 04:09 |
| bgstack15 | I migrated all my personal stuff off of github back when they first got bought by M$. | 04:11 |
| bgstack15 | But I left the current state of things on there. I'd say about half of my repos are now out of date over there. I use gitlab.com now. | 04:12 |
| onefang | Same here, only now I use my own server with cgit and Mantis. | 04:12 |
| bgstack15 | I use cgit for my web presentation of my local repos! I remember spending some time choosing what I wanted to use. I didn't need anything as complex as gitea even; it's just me here. | 04:13 |
| bgstack15 | I have briefly wondered if the gitlab issues/wiki contents are worth saving somehow... | 04:14 |
| golinux | YES! | 04:15 |
| brocashelm | ok, i was able to create the account | 04:15 |
| golinux | They have been very helpful | 04:15 |
| brocashelm | https://github.com/lah7/gtk3-classic/issues/67 | 04:15 |
| golinux | bgstack15: ^^^ | 04:15 |
| bgstack15 | golinux: ? you think that my gitlab issues and wiki content are worth saving down to my own cgit+httpd+[no bug tracker] system? | 04:16 |
| brocashelm | i also notified the patch creator about it | 04:16 |
| onefang | I suspect golinux was being enthusiastic about the GTK patch. | 04:18 |
| bgstack15 | Maybe we should start calling it gtk++3 | 04:18 |
| brocashelm | heh | 04:19 |
| onefang | Reminds me of when MS created J++, I was calling it Java--. | 04:19 |
| golinux | onefang: Please remove me from your thought processes. :) | 04:20 |
| bgstack15 | qt fan then? | 04:20 |
| bgstack15 | lol | 04:21 |
| golinux | onefang: And do not speak for me on these channels | 04:23 |
| fsmithred | https://get.refracta.org/files/_old_devuan_gitlab_issues/gitlab-issues-complete.tar.gz | 11:30 |
| brocashelm | small update to the github issue, bgstack15: https://github.com/lah7/gtk3-classic/issues/67#issuecomment-1030010635 | 21:47 |
| brocashelm | looks like one of the authors will attempt to include the patch in his build | 21:48 |
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