libera/#devuan-dev/ Friday, 2022-09-02

BeerHello LeePen, I just downloaded chimaera live desktop image, and I notice /live/memtest86+.bin is missing, hence the "Memory test" entry of grub.cfg is ineffective. Is this intended?01:37
BeerIt was there in ascii's and beowulf's, hence I suspect an oversight01:38
golinuxBeer: fsmithred does the desktop-live images02:13
golinuxNice to see you! It's been a while.  :)02:14
fsmithredlinux16 /live/memtest86+.bin02:14
fsmithred^^^ grub menu for uefi02:15
fsmithredkernel /live/memtest02:15
fsmithred^^^ isolinux menu for bios boot02:15
Beergolinux: Yup :) Nice seeing you too02:16
fsmithredmemtest kernel should be there under both names02:16
BeerThere are no memtest thingies under /live/ in devuan_chimaera_4.0.0_amd64_desktop-live.iso02:17
fsmithredsjot02:17
Beer-jo +hi?02:18
fsmithredyeah02:18
BeerHehehe02:18
fsmithredbad hand position02:18
BeerI came here, because I checked ascii & beowulf images and there were such files, as I initially mentioned02:18
BeerLooks like an oversight02:18
BeerI fell back to burning a beowulf image for my needs. Got a scare about symbols because you need to boot the DVD in non-UEFI mode to make it work. Is this a limitation from memtest86+?02:19
fsmithredprobably an oversight. I was under pressure to make the isos in a hurry. Also possible I blew it off because memtest doesn't work in most cases.02:22
fsmithredI looked into getting the new version, but you have to download the whole iso.02:22
fsmithredbios and uefi recognize different names for memtest. I don't know why, so I just copied it to both names.02:25
BeerOK great. I would be glad not having to switch between beowulf & chimaera depending on whether I'm checking RAM or doing recovery work, but... no pressure! :D02:29
fsmithredhttps://get.refracta.org/files/stable/?2022  <- this one has memtest for bios boot and is an all-around better choice for a rescue/repair CD02:33
BeerNever heard of it. Will give it a try someday02:36
rrqthere is "usr/lib/refractasnapshot/iso/live/memtest" in the squashfs of the desktop-live02:37
rrqit appears to be a bios mode memtest02:37
fsmithredoh, thanks. Yeah, it got installed02:38
fsmithredI guess I should add a line to the blend script to make sure it gets copied.02:38
fsmithredthe minimal-live isos have /live/memtest02:44
onefang_fsmithred: Alas I suspect if I go to the trouble of building a nedbus install, something will drag it in anyway, or will fail.05:45
onefangIf I wasn't bogged down with other projects, I'd write dcar, does the same job as dbus but not so bloated.05:48
Xenguyhah05:50
Xenguydwalk ?05:50
onefangWell I do walk everywhere, but that's kinda slow.05:50
onefangdbike, more manouverable.05:50
XenguyAnd still lightweight05:51
fsmithredonefang, pin dbus to -1 and it won't get pulled in. My build has a couple of dbus libraries that got pulled in. I think one of them would go if I removed one particular app. I don't recall which.16:11
onefangWhat would break due to the lack of dbus though?16:59
onefangThough I sometimes see dbus errors in my logs, so things break even if it's there.  lol17:05
onefangOff to sleep now.17:05

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