| brocashelm | why would it "need" libsystemd? | 00:08 |
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| brocashelm | sounds like a very random dependency for a package that could work just fine on any other init system | 00:09 |
| hagbard | I doesn't actually __need__ it. The dpenedency of the package debian should be "recommends" max. | 00:31 |
| hagbard | +in | 00:32 |
| hagbard | Another Devuan user filed a bug in Debian, but was basically told to fuck off, because Devuan. | 00:35 |
| hagbard | There are merely two calls of sd_notify() that tell systemd that fluidsynth ist starting / stopping. | 00:42 |
| rwp | I guess one must recreate the situation in pure Debian but without systemd and then submit a report from that system. Sigh. | 00:42 |
| rwp | It's a distraction that the bug submitter allowed downstream Devuan information to sneak into that upstream Debian bug report. And here it gave an out for them to ignore the actual problem. | 00:43 |
| rwp | A pure Debian development environment could probably be synthesized using debootstrap and a chroot without otherwise needing a full system install. | 00:46 |
| hagbard | And I can't fathom, why libfluidsynth-dev would need libsystemd-dev at all. The headers of libfluidsynth don't reference any libsystemd-header at all. | 00:48 |
| rwp | I know they say don't attribute to malice which is better explained by incompetence but this seems to be a willful combination of both. | 00:48 |
| LeePen | hagbard: thanks. I'll take a look later on today. | 10:47 |
| LeePen | hagbard: pm sent. | 12:39 |
| xrogaan | fsmithred: installed devuan over a brand new machine using UEFI. The installer gets confusing when they warn about BIOS mode not being available, especially my system is EFI. It doesn't explain what the BIOS/EFI thing means. | 23:26 |
| xrogaan | Since we don't usually install an OS every week, that'd be a something worth explaining further. | 23:27 |
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