| aitor | systemdlete: i use qemu-system-x86_64 in the command line | 00:10 |
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| systemdlete | fsmithred: As soon as *I* figure it out, lol! | 00:11 |
| systemdlete | there is scant doc on aqemu sadly. But most of it is fairly intuitive. Moreover, it seems to be much more complete than VMM. | 00:12 |
| systemdlete | aitor: Does that launch a GUI, or is it just plain command line? | 00:12 |
| * systemdlete has always wished that open source culture demanded thorough documentation to be considered par with the definition of open source. | 00:14 | |
| aitor | just plain command line, and first you need to create a raw or qcow2 image | 00:14 |
| systemdlete | aitor: Thanks. I'll take a look at that later. | 00:14 |
| systemdlete | One disaster at a time here. | 00:14 |
| aitor | here you are some info about raw and qcow images: | 00:15 |
| aitor | https://techpiezo.com/tech-insights/raw-vs-qcow2-disk-images-in-qemu-kvm/ | 00:15 |
| aitor | i've been looking at the code used to generate the installer isos of devuan, is Ralph the mantainer of the installer isos? | 00:23 |
| gast0n | Hi, Has anyone had problems with network-manager in the desktop-live version of Chimaera, with a wired connection? It cannot connect via dhcp, in the beta versions it had not had that problem | 00:24 |
| gast0n | ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ | 00:24 |
| aitor | i'm referring to this program: | 00:24 |
| aitor | https://git.devuan.org/devuan/installer-iso.git | 00:24 |
| aitor | hi gast0n | 00:25 |
| gast0n | aitor: o/ | 00:25 |
| rrq | aitor: hi | 00:25 |
| aitor | hi rrq | 00:25 |
| aitor | i've been playing with your code during these days... | 00:26 |
| rrq | like xmas I suppose :) | 00:27 |
| aitor | xmas? | 00:27 |
| rrq | =christmas | 00:27 |
| aitor | ah, ok! | 00:27 |
| aitor | rrq, this is the result: | 00:28 |
| aitor | https://www.gnuinos.org/Chimaera/ | 00:28 |
| rrq | great | 00:29 |
| aitor | i tested the netinstall images and the desktop images, and everithing went fine | 00:29 |
| aitor | every* | 00:30 |
| aitor | there is an issue related to libc6-udeb, but the build process goes ahead | 00:31 |
| rrq | I suppose those link up to your distribution as primary source list | 00:31 |
| aitor | yes, gnuinos is a fully amprolla setup and all the packages are pulled from packages.gnuinos.org/merged | 00:32 |
| rrq | very good | 00:33 |
| aitor | there are only a few packages for chimaera, but the kernel is one of them, and the installer worked | 00:33 |
| aitor | building the packages of the kernel is a bit hard, and it took me a lot of time to figure out the signing procedure | 00:34 |
| aitor | since gnuinos chimaera uses linux-libre-5.10.83-gnu1 instead of linux-5.10.70-1, i couldn't use the sources of linux-signed-amd64 and linux-signed-i386 | 00:36 |
| aitor | the generate the signed packages and also the udeb modules required by d-i | 00:37 |
| aitor | at this point, i have a doubt... | 00:37 |
| aitor | are these signatures M$'s signatures for the secure boot? | 00:38 |
| rrq | I think debian has "its own signing key" but I don't know about that level; I just pack stuff into th einstaller :) | 00:40 |
| aitor | i just removed all the *.sig files from the sources, leaving the resulting packages unsigned, in order to generate the udeb modules | 00:42 |
| aitor | otherwise, my wmlinuz and so on would be replaced by debian's | 00:43 |
| rrq | afaiui theres a UEFI signage level where it accepts (or not) to run the .efi programs and then a second level signage for the kernel loading; I don't know of a third level tahat would require packages (debs or udebs) to be signed other than the shasumming (for transport verification) | 00:45 |
| rrq | though, it's not my area | 00:47 |
| rrq | and debian has lots of helpers nowadays so anything may have happened recently | 00:47 |
| aitor | yes, i guess... | 00:48 |
| aitor | no worries, i never signed the kernel | 00:48 |
| aitor | btw... rrq, i added a couple of folders in the parent directory of your sources: one of them containing the scripts of debootstrap (first and second levels), and the other one containg the gpg keys, that is, devuan-archive-keyring.gpg, gnuinos-archive-keyring.gpg... required by debootstrap | 00:50 |
| aitor | because i couldn't use a http_proxy | 00:51 |
| aitor | gaston, rrq, see you tomorrow | 00:53 |
| aitor | 0:55 here | 00:53 |
| rrq | ok. yes, that'd make it less dependent on the build host... night | 00:54 |
| aitor | bye ralph :) | 00:54 |
| aitor | good present for xmas :) | 00:54 |
| msiism | Apparently, wiki.friendsofdevuan.org is no more. Has the content been transferred to another place? | 14:18 |
| nosystemd | :) | 15:08 |
| golinux | msiism: Yes, there is no more friendsofdevuan.org wiki. Neither is there a replacement option yet. | 17:30 |
| golinux | IIUC, FlibberT1 has a backup and rrq has a wiki-to-be installed somewhere but no taker to develop/admin etc. | 17:32 |
| msiism | Okay, thanks. | 17:32 |
| golinux | Hi! Nice to see you!! | 17:32 |
| golinux | If you're interested in taking it on, ping rrq. | 17:32 |
| msiism | I guess I won't be able to do that, sorry. I just wnated to look something up and thought it was in my backup of the wiki. But it wasn't. | 17:33 |
| golinux | Looks like it's here just where you'd expect it to be https://wiki.devuan.org/ | 17:33 |
| msiism | I see. | 17:34 |
| golinux | It needs some love and expertise | 17:35 |
| msiism | Well, someone will take on the task, eventually. I'll ask FlibberT1 about a full backup of the FOD wiki. | 17:37 |
| haps | re; i'm having trouble installing devuan, the chroot isn't working despite the chroot folder having the right contents. | 17:52 |
| haps | I'm installing with a separate boot & home, both encrypted. My drive layout is 256M fat32 esp, 512M ext4, 16G swap, 64G / ext4, the rest /home ext4. I'm new to this esp partitioning, but the installer doesn't complain until it tries invoking chroot. | 17:59 |
| haps | hmmm, interesting, it looks like the old partition information was somehow used, despite writing the changes. A reboot fixed the installer. | 18:29 |
| ham5urg | Has anyone tried pipewire so far? | 20:29 |
| * av6 tries pipewire... | 21:51 | |
| av6 | yep, it works | 21:52 |
| av6 | running as user using xfce's session autostart | 21:52 |
| av6 | actually using dmix and dsnoop nodes, but it obviously works with hardware directly, considering that's the intended way | 21:53 |
| ham5urg_ | I started pipewire, pipewire-media-session, pipewire-pulse with a file self created /etc/X11/Xsession.d/80pipewire | 21:58 |
| ham5urg_ | But it does lack stability, av6, how did you do it? | 21:58 |
| av6 | just added pipewire to xfce session somewhere in gui and edited /etc/pipewire/pipewire.conf to include -pulse and -media-session | 22:02 |
| av6 | nowadays running wireplumber instead of pipewire-media-session | 22:02 |
| av6 | after the initial effort to make it run like i wanted it to, never had any stability issues | 22:03 |
| av6 | but my audio setup is pretty basic, no bluetooth | 22:04 |
| av6 | just input from dsnoop and output to dmix | 22:04 |
| av6 | although some jack apps could misbehave if used with pipewire with jack compatibility libs | 22:31 |
| av6 | i think i remember making qjackctl lock up or crash when pressing random buttons like start and stop | 22:32 |
| av6 | maybe it locked pipewire at some point and needed to be kill-9'd | 22:32 |
| av6 | also recording in audacity didn't work correctly and was breaking sound in general until pipewire was restarted, but only on one box and a while ago, could be fixed by now | 22:36 |
| av6 | qjackctl also crashed on me on some early versions of pipewire a couple of times, when managing the audio graph, so i guess jack compatibility wasn't there yet | 22:39 |
| av6 | didn't try the same thing recently though | 22:39 |
| av6 | so if you're doing pro audio on jack maybe don't switch to pipewire yet | 22:40 |
| ham5urg_ | av6, can you post your pipewire.conf on some pastebin? | 22:43 |
| av6 | the only meaningful change i have there is running wireplumber and pipewire-pulse as subprocesses and my own dmix/dsnoop devices that aren't needed for regular setup | 22:45 |
| av6 | { path = "/usr/bin/wireplumber" args = "" } | 22:46 |
| av6 | { path = "/usr/bin/pipewire-pulse" args = "" } | 22:46 |
| av6 | and even that is not needed if you run these processes separately, together with pipewire | 22:46 |
| av6 | the rest of the file is the same as /usr/share/pipewire/pipewire.conf | 22:46 |
| av6 | what stability issues do you have? you can try running pipewire in a terminal and see if it shows any messages | 22:47 |
| av6 | also there's #pipewire on OFTC | 22:47 |
| ham5urg_ | Sometimes pulsewire did not switch the source/sink. I have edited my pipewire.conf and will restart X. | 22:50 |
| av6 | well if you're getting audio at all using pulse driver, then pipewire-pulse is already up and running, no need to run it twice | 22:53 |
| av6 | switch how? | 22:53 |
| ham5urg | Via the Gnome menu | 22:53 |
| av6 | switch how? | 22:53 |
| av6 | on? off? | 22:53 |
| ham5urg | To another source, mic-bluetooth, mic-buildin | 22:54 |
| av6 | i'm tempted to call this a gnome issue, but try and see what e.g. pavucontrol shows when this happens | 22:55 |
| av6 | maybe even peek at the graph in a jack application that shows it, like `pw-jack qjackctl` | 22:55 |
| ham5urg | Now it looks good, but it killed the Gnome-Bluetooth-Settings | 22:56 |
| ham5urg | Can't connect via bluetooth | 22:56 |
| av6 | could be a pipewire-media-session issue too, backup plan could be using wireplumber instead of p-m-s | 22:56 |
| av6 | can't help with bluetooth at all, sorry | 22:56 |
| ham5urg | Just needed to restart bluetoothd | 23:01 |
| ham5urg | av6, thanks, now it works | 23:01 |
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