| crhylove | Any idea why reboot or init 6 commands aren't working? | 01:57 |
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| crhylove | Devuan 5... | 01:57 |
| crhylove | bash: init: command not found | 01:58 |
| fluffywolf | unstable is unstable? :) | 02:02 |
| rrq | crhylove: do you use "su"? | 02:03 |
| crhylove | su | 02:03 |
| rrq | some years ago "su" changed so that it does not offer /sbin in PATH; it preserves the "user PATH" | 02:04 |
| crhylove | That's annoying. So I have to do sudo reboot from a non root term? | 02:04 |
| crhylove | And then reenter the pw? | 02:05 |
| crhylove | Lots of extra steps for a guy like me that always has a su term open. :/ | 02:05 |
| rrq | you might use "su -" ... https://files.devuan.org/devuan_chimaera/Release_notes.txt | 02:05 |
| fluffywolf | does anyone use su without the -? | 02:06 |
| fluffywolf | I'm surprised reboot would be in the path but not init, if it is a path issue. | 02:06 |
| crhylove | Yeah, I always just su. I can su -.... If it works I'll drop instantly. LOL | 02:07 |
| crhylove | It worked! Guess I'll su - from now on. *shrugs* | 02:09 |
| crhylove | ugh... now my scripts are in the wrong path... | 02:10 |
| rrq | it beings the comlementary annoyance of also "cd" to /root .. like a root login | 02:10 |
| rrq | .. brings the complementary ... | 02:11 |
| crhylove | ah. /me looks for root | 02:11 |
| crhylove | Is there a way to open root in caja without running it from the term? | 02:13 |
| crhylove | Actually, that doesn't work either: Could not parse arguments: Cannot open display: | 02:13 |
| crhylove | cp works.... | 02:14 |
| crhylove | I have 4 elogind packages being kept back. What's the solution for that? | 02:15 |
| fluffywolf | unless you use kde or kde software, you can remove them, at least with devuan 4. | 02:16 |
| crhylove | I'm 5.16 Will try. Fingers crossed? | 02:29 |
| crhylove | I'm using MATE. Does that matter? | 02:29 |
| crhylove | can't do that. That will remove lightdm, task-mate-desktop.... | 02:30 |
| rrq | afaiui, elogind is a "session manager" and most/all desktop environments nowadays have a fondness for one such | 02:30 |
| rrq | maybe you should dist-upgrade rather | 02:31 |
| crhylove | Looks like that will kill wine.... and possibly my gstreamer plugins? | 02:34 |
| crhylove | How do I get the right wine repos in? | 02:34 |
| * rrq doesn't do wine | 02:40 | |
| fluffywolf | I use the winehq repos | 02:47 |
| fluffywolf | the debian ones work with devuan | 02:48 |
| rrq | crhylove: possibly upgrades of amd64 packages result in the i386 versions being removed, without corresponding i386 upgrades, which causes more i386 packages being removed | 02:49 |
| crhylove | Failed to fetch https://dl.winehq.org/wine-builds/debian/dists/bookworm/InRelease Certificate verification failed: The certificate is NOT trusted. The revocation or OCSP data are old and have been superseded. Could not handshake: Error in the certificate verification. [IP: 146.75.98.217 443]Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead. | 02:50 |
| crhylove | That's my error | 02:50 |
| fluffywolf | hrmm, they made some changes lately with how apt handles verification issues... try with -oAcquire::AllowInsecureRepositories=true and then see if there's a keyring to install. | 02:51 |
| crhylove | I like that plan... What's the actual command? Or in synaptic? Or? | 02:52 |
| fluffywolf | apt-get -oAcquire::AllowInsecureRepositories=true update | 02:53 |
| fluffywolf | https://wiki.winehq.org/Debian ignore what I said, looks like winehq wants you to install their key manually. | 02:54 |
| crhylove | ahhhh | 02:56 |
| crhylove | Warning: apt-key is deprecated. Manage keyring files in trusted.gpg.d instead (see apt-key(8)). | 02:57 |
| crhylove | GPG error: https://dl.winehq.org/wine-builds/debian buster InRelease: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 76F1A20FF987672FThe repository 'https://dl.winehq.org/wine-builds/debian buster InRelease' is not signed. | 03:00 |
| djph | so get teh public keu | 03:03 |
| djph | *key, even | 03:03 |
| crhylove | Trying! | 03:07 |
| crhylove | W: GPG error: https://dl.winehq.org/wine-builds/debian buster InRelease: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 76F1A20FF987672F | 03:07 |
| crhylove | Nobody else has successfully gotten winehq from the repos in devuan 5? | 03:15 |
| crhylove | ugh... now i can't find the repos in cli OR in synaptic, and getting the same error. This is not better. | 03:17 |
| gnarface | it worked for me last i tried it | 03:22 |
| gnarface | it's been a few weeks at least though | 03:22 |
| gnarface | tried it from unstable not testing though | 03:24 |
| gnarface | but it was a testing version | 03:25 |
| gnarface | (bookworm) | 03:25 |
| gnarface | note that buster is actually for devuan 3 | 03:25 |
| gnarface | you sure you're trying to get the right one? i didn't read the whole scrollback | 03:25 |
| gnarface | i don't recall having to put in a key manually but if i did it would have been much longer ago | 03:25 |
| fluffywolf | I haven't tried 5 yet. | 03:32 |
| u-amarsh04 | my /etc/default/su | 05:50 |
| u-amarsh04 | ALWAYS_SET_PATH=yes | 05:50 |
| u-amarsh04 | # from file://localhost/usr/share/doc/util-linux/NEWS.Debian.gz | 05:50 |
| u-amarsh04 | # util-linux 2.32-0.4 Fri, 03 Aug 2018 10:52:22 +0200 | 05:50 |
| u-amarsh04 | # if removing ALWAYS_SET_PATH=yes need to use "su - " | 05:51 |
| ErRandir | I followed the instructions on https://www.devuan.org/os/documentation/dev1fanboy/en/upgrade-to-beowulf but I accidentally ended up on Daedalus (left unstable in sources.list). ASCII to Daedalus upgrade! :) | 08:59 |
| ErRandir | Lessons learned: 1. Daedalus does not like it when /usr is on a different partition than /. 2. Always have busybox on /. | 09:35 |
| humpelstilzchen[ | wasn't the whole point of having /usr that it can be a separate mount point? | 10:43 |
| djph | humpelstilzchen[: that's supposed to be the case, yes. | 11:57 |
| onefang | Historically the whole point of /usr was "we ran out of space on /". | 12:15 |
| djph | I think with a little bit of "... and we need to keep /{,s}bin on /dev/sda#" in the mix as well | 12:18 |
| gnarface | well, initially /usr was rarely even on the same *computer* because it was about saving disk space for a part of the system that would be read-only and uniform across the whole lab anyway | 14:05 |
| gnarface | that may have been before linux really existed though | 14:06 |
| furrymcgee | I guess they didnt have initrd | 14:08 |
| gnarface | they didn't | 14:09 |
| gnarface | and i doubt they had journaling filesystems either | 14:10 |
| furrymcgee | does initrd have /usr? | 14:14 |
| djph | gnarface: yeah, I remember reading on that ... I implemented it once at home because it sounded fun | 14:16 |
| furrymcgee | readonly / is no fun at all | 14:18 |
| ErRandir | havin /usr separate worked on ascii. After the upgrade it was mostly missing libuuid, which meant that tools like 'mount' did not work (but busybox mount off course does). | 14:22 |
| unixbsd | wheere to find the wabbitemu for debian or devuan linux amd64, already built ? | 15:09 |
| Joril | You mean wxWabbitemu? I guess no one made the .debs available, yet | 15:12 |
| onefang | A cross between a rabbit and an emu? | 15:27 |
| gnarface | it appears to be a TI calculator emulator | 15:30 |
| gnarface | it does not appear to support linux at all | 15:30 |
| gnarface | oh wait | 15:31 |
| gnarface | wabbitemu doesn't but wxwabbitemu is a different thing that does | 15:31 |
| gnarface | i see | 15:31 |
| gnarface | the source isn't debianized though; use checkinstall to make a package | 15:32 |
| gnarface | it doesn't appear to have a lot of dependencies, it's probably worth trying to build | 15:33 |
| buZz | maybe port it to maemo leste while you're at it ;) | 17:06 |
| joachin | Hi team, I have a question, everytime that I press the "block touchpad" button, it works but it doesn't show the message; however, if I press the same in any other distro, the button works and also shows the message. How can I fix it? | 20:30 |
| onefang | https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/securing-debian-manual/index.en.html is hopelessly out of date. Anyone know of anything similar that is up to date? | 23:35 |
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