| texasmynsted | I mean I can not find bind or something running. I keep getting errors like avahi-daemon avahi-utils | 00:00 |
|---|---|---|
| texasmynsted | Like Temporary failure in name resolution | 00:00 |
| texasmynsted | My /etc/resolv.conf has good dns listed. I changed with no effect | 00:00 |
| gnarface | restart firefox | 00:00 |
| texasmynsted | can't ping from command line | 00:01 |
| gnarface | can you ping by the dns servers by ip? | 00:01 |
| gnarface | you shouldn't need bind installed just to use a 3rd party dns server | 00:01 |
| gnarface | i don't really use avahi, but it's a likely culprit for any sort of network misbehavior | 00:02 |
| texasmynsted | no, network is unreachable. | 00:04 |
| texasmynsted | sigh. | 00:04 |
| texasmynsted | I guess this is unrelated to isntalling avahi. It failed during that install atempt | 00:05 |
| texasmynsted | Thank you. I bet it is not a devuan issue. | 00:22 |
| ukine | texasmynsted: just fyi a lot (if not most) DNS resolution services do not respond to ICMP PINGs | 01:33 |
| systemdlete | https://pastebin.com/gAtxzSXv | 01:35 |
| systemdlete | I removed xarchiver and (I think) this MIGHT be why it is asking me to remove these | 01:36 |
| systemdlete | but some of it looks weird, like some of the x11 libraries--I'd think I need those generally to support other things. | 01:36 |
| systemdlete | I could snapshot the system, remove them and see what happens I guess, but I am not too thrilled about doing that. | 01:37 |
| systemdlete | (I'm busy with other things atm) | 01:37 |
| systemdlete | I just looked and I see that, among other things, lightdm is running. And then there's xserver-xorg-core, which I sense is kind of needed for my xfce desktop... ? no? | 01:40 |
| systemdlete | I've been applying the exact same updates to all my systems for about the last week now. This is the only system that is making this noise. | 01:41 |
| Xenguy | systemdlete, You didn't mention what the format of the compressed file is | 01:47 |
| systemdlete | what compressed file? | 01:47 |
| systemdlete | (sorry) | 01:48 |
| Xenguy | Apparently I misread then | 01:48 |
| Xenguy | I assumed xarchiver is a compression tool | 01:48 |
| systemdlete | I think the reason only this one system is affected could be the fact that it is a Star Linux system, not generic devuan. | 01:48 |
| systemdlete | I removed the xarchiver package from the system. It might be the reason for the autoremove. | 01:49 |
| Xenguy | xarchiver - GTK+ frontend for most used compression formats | 01:49 |
| systemdlete | but maybe not | 01:49 |
| systemdlete | Xenguy, but what does that have to do with apt? | 01:49 |
| systemdlete | sorry I am not getting the connection... | 01:49 |
| Xenguy | You had mentioned, previously, that you had a large compressed file | 01:49 |
| Xenguy | So I was wondering what format it was | 01:49 |
| systemdlete | that was a different issue, and the reason why I replaced it with file-roller. | 01:50 |
| systemdlete | OH | 01:50 |
| systemdlete | ok | 01:50 |
| systemdlete | it was a standard zip/unzip format. | 01:50 |
| Xenguy | I wonder if 'unzip' would work better than xarchiver? | 01:50 |
| Xenguy | i.e. on that large file | 01:50 |
| systemdlete | unzip does work better, yes. | 01:50 |
| systemdlete | but it is nice to see the archive graphically also. | 01:50 |
| systemdlete | But... it doesn't matter. I am using perl modules to extract the data directly rather than eating up disk space. | 01:51 |
| systemdlete | It is working quite well (after 2 full days of work on it). | 01:51 |
| systemdlete | atm, though, I am much much more concerned with the autoremove issue. | 01:52 |
| systemdlete | I am guessing that xarchiver depends on those other packages which, if removed, would disable the system. | 01:52 |
| systemdlete | but those packages were already installed (obviously) since I am running a desktop, and the desktop(s) would be FIRST to be dependent on the x11 libraries etc. | 01:54 |
| systemdlete | I am wondering if the xarchiver package itself might have marked the x11 programs and libs as being installed for it. Something like that, but I don't know apt well enough to tell. | 01:55 |
| Xenguy | Sounds like you have it covered then | 01:56 |
| systemdlete | maybe | 01:56 |
| systemdlete | I am most suspicious about the fact it is not generic devuan. | 01:56 |
| systemdlete | I wonder how well Star is being supported. For instance, I don't think they have a Chimaera release (I didn't see one last I looked). | 01:57 |
| systemdlete | sorry for all the noise, but if anyone knows why this is happening (I mean, likely reasons), I'd be obliged | 01:58 |
| fsmithred | metapackages | 02:09 |
| fsmithred | task-xfce-desktop? | 02:09 |
| fsmithred | systemdelete, do 'apt install xorg lightdm' and then 'apt -s autoremove' (simulate) to see what's still on the autoremove list that you want to keep. | 02:13 |
| systemdlete | I'm doing a apt reinstall xorg lightdm | 02:26 |
| systemdlete | then apt upgrade. apt upgrade tells me task-desktop is no longer needed, so I am reinstalling that also. | 02:27 |
| systemdlete | but now it STILL wants to remove task-desktop (but that's better than that long laundry list of packages I was getting before) | 02:28 |
| systemdlete | (It is saying "task-desktop" not "task-xfce-desktop", just fyi) | 02:28 |
| systemdlete | Sorry I did not follow up with you first before taking the steps I did. But I wanted to be sure that those packages were really installed by my choice rather than leaving it to the hazards of apt's notions of dependencies (which are usually OK, but not in this case apparently) | 02:30 |
| systemdlete | fsmithred, I was able to "apt remove task-desktop" which did nothing (probably because it is a meta package?) and I was able to reboot the system successfully. | 02:51 |
| systemdlete | Now I am no longer getting the autoremove warnings | 02:52 |
| fsmithred | ok, good | 02:52 |
| systemdlete | thank you for the suggestions | 02:52 |
| systemdlete | I can breathe again... back to work! | 02:52 |
| texasmynsted | okay ukine | 04:36 |
| Guest48 | hi guys, my timezone/date got messed up after aptitude full-upgrade. I followed the instructions here before upgrade: https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=1953 but now it became UTC somehow, I think, instead of LOCAL. | 06:46 |
| Guest48 | I removed /etc/timezone again then linked it to /usr/share/zoneinfo but no luck. | 06:48 |
| gnarface | Guest48: dpkg-reconfigure tzdata | 06:53 |
| Guest48 | thank you. that fixed it. | 06:57 |
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